Liberals trailing behind in polls
- Thread starter Andem
- Start date
RE: Liberals trailing beh
So many polls. I just heard one on the radio 31% conservatives and 30% liberals. So many polls so many results. When you take in the margin of error, who knows what the real numbers are?????
So many polls. I just heard one on the radio 31% conservatives and 30% liberals. So many polls so many results. When you take in the margin of error, who knows what the real numbers are?????
I do all kinds of polls and I'm constantly trying to screw them up no truthful answers here.Don't trust them :wink:
RE: Liberals trailing beh
The real numbers haven't changed much from the last election. People want to punish the Liberals, but they don't want the Conservatives in. They especially don't want the Conservatives to have a majority.
Everbody is pissed at the liberals, but nobody wants to go to the polls because they don't really see a replacement.
If Belinda Stronach was Conservative leader right now, you'd see a stampede to the Conservative party. She isn't though, being to moderate for Reform/Alliance folks. Harper is the leader. He's also the man that so many Canadians have been rejecting as a viable leader for so long.
The real numbers haven't changed much from the last election. People want to punish the Liberals, but they don't want the Conservatives in. They especially don't want the Conservatives to have a majority.
Everbody is pissed at the liberals, but nobody wants to go to the polls because they don't really see a replacement.
If Belinda Stronach was Conservative leader right now, you'd see a stampede to the Conservative party. She isn't though, being to moderate for Reform/Alliance folks. Harper is the leader. He's also the man that so many Canadians have been rejecting as a viable leader for so long.
Just look at the guy he's got to be the biggest peice of wood thats ever came out of the Bilderberg meetings :lol:
RE: Liberals trailing beh
One guest on the local talk radio said the Liberals are only a couple points behind where they were before last election. So with the margin of error I don't think this Gomery Inquirey will hurt them too much. It will blow over except in PQ in a month or two anyways. The media here is trying to make an issue out of Gomery but people don't seem to care too much.
One guest on the local talk radio said the Liberals are only a couple points behind where they were before last election. So with the margin of error I don't think this Gomery Inquirey will hurt them too much. It will blow over except in PQ in a month or two anyways. The media here is trying to make an issue out of Gomery but people don't seem to care too much.
I believe the Liberals election strategy should be to ignore all their problems and hope they disappear. And, then for fun they should try sticking ice picks under their fingernails.
RE: Liberals trailing beh
I don't think the Liberals are going to do that Dukee. They've been rocked back on their heels, but there is a reason why they are known as the Big Red Machine...they are professionals when it comes to staying in power.
We might even get a Conservative minority for a couple of years...one without the power to pass it's legislation. The Liberals will suffer in the polls for a very long time, likely with a lot of minority governments...that was likely to happen anyway though. In the end though, Canadians do not agree with Conservative policies.
I don't think the Liberals are going to do that Dukee. They've been rocked back on their heels, but there is a reason why they are known as the Big Red Machine...they are professionals when it comes to staying in power.
We might even get a Conservative minority for a couple of years...one without the power to pass it's legislation. The Liberals will suffer in the polls for a very long time, likely with a lot of minority governments...that was likely to happen anyway though. In the end though, Canadians do not agree with Conservative policies.
Re: RE: Liberals trailing beh
No, Jean Chretien was a professional at staying in power. Paul Martin, on the other hand, is a blundering idiot.
Paul Martin is ready to tear his party apart by directly targeting the Chretienites in the Adscam affair to save his own skin. He's going to go into an election with a full-scale internal civil war on his hands, no sane person donating time and money to his reelection, and a Canadian public that wants Liberal blood.
And, the truly sad thing for the Liberals is that they have no competent individual groomed to replace Martin. They are getting set to embark on the proverbial wandering of the wilderness for 40 years.
For one thing, a Conservative government may bring to light the other areas that the Liberal Party has gotten its corrupt little fingers into. I believe Adscam to be merely the tip of the iceberg. You can't bet that the papershredders in Ottawa will be running overtime the night of the election.
The Conservative policy that was drafted recently is mainstream and sellable. Also, one undeniable fact is that the economic and political base of Canada has been shifting westward for many years, and will continue to do so into the future. Conservatives will benefit from this as well.
Reverend Blair said:
No, Jean Chretien was a professional at staying in power. Paul Martin, on the other hand, is a blundering idiot.
Paul Martin is ready to tear his party apart by directly targeting the Chretienites in the Adscam affair to save his own skin. He's going to go into an election with a full-scale internal civil war on his hands, no sane person donating time and money to his reelection, and a Canadian public that wants Liberal blood.
And, the truly sad thing for the Liberals is that they have no competent individual groomed to replace Martin. They are getting set to embark on the proverbial wandering of the wilderness for 40 years.
For one thing, a Conservative government may bring to light the other areas that the Liberal Party has gotten its corrupt little fingers into. I believe Adscam to be merely the tip of the iceberg. You can't bet that the papershredders in Ottawa will be running overtime the night of the election.
The Conservative policy that was drafted recently is mainstream and sellable. Also, one undeniable fact is that the economic and political base of Canada has been shifting westward for many years, and will continue to do so into the future. Conservatives will benefit from this as well.
A week ago you were saying that this would blow over in a week. Blown up is more like it. Every time I turn on the radio or the TV, all I'm hearing about is Adscam and how the Liberals are corrupt. Either you're not listening or you choose to ignore this huge issue. And it's not just in Quebec. I live in Ontario and that's all we're talking about right now. Adscam is even being reflected in the provincial election with Dalton McFibs Liberals dropping 11% in the polls.
I couldn't agree more. I truly believe that this is the tip of the iceberg and I can see some strartling relevations coming out about Chretien one day soon.
Liberal support free falling in the polls right across Canada. Five Liberal MP's contemplating crossing the floor to join the Conservatives. 34 Liberal MP's voting along with the Conservatives yesterday on SSM. Alberta Liberals wanting to change their name because they don't want to be associated with their Liberal cousins. Dalton "openly" criticizing Martin and making it known that he would have no problem with having Harper as Prime Minister. If anyone here still thinks that the Liberals will be okay in this coming election should really consider uping their medication.
It takes a hellava lot to get Canadians upset and right now thay are upset heading towards livid.
If there is an election...and it looks like it more and more each day....are things really going to be different????
Different party / Prime Minister, same bull%$#!
Different party / Prime Minister, same bull%$#!
It will be different for people who like having human rights and health care, but most of the policies are the same. The Liberals are just sneakier about it.
I'm listening very cafefully. I just listen to several different sources.
I read the polls too:
I see one anomaly that shows the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives at 36, other than that they are flat. People may be fleeing the Liberals, but they aren't going to Harper.
I really doubt it. Just like Multoney never got caught. The Liberals and Conservatives don't like to play those games too hard because it leaves them wide open for pay-back in the future.
These are people looking for a better offer. A few of them might even cross the floor if the deal is good enough.
Wow, both of them?
He's looking for a deal, that's his job as premier. If he wants to abandon the feds instead of helping them, he's making a mistake too...he'll get nothing ifthe Liberals get back in, and Harper's core support has made a career out of bashing Ontario.
Paul Martin is not in charge of the election machinery anymore...at least that's the rumour.
See above.
Are you kidding? They have four or five people who can step into the job, two or three with names and backgrounds that people know and understand.
Only if nobody looks at it.
You have a long way to go before you're anyplace close to Ontario and, as populations rise, the western electorate will likely shift to the left.
A long way indeed we will never have any say until the west is given more seats plain and simple .No seats no say in what goes on in Canada :x
Some of us feel that you have a disproportionate say in what happens in Canada, especially west of the Canadian Shield.
We hear all about western alienation and western separatism and so on. The west starts a few miles east of my house. There's a sign.
The thing is that we aren't alienated from Canada, we're just alienated. We got screwed when the big packing plants set up in Alberta and the government did nothing for us. We got screwed in the flood and in the drought. We got screwed by Bombardier and Ontario and the Feds have been screwing us on electricity for a long time with "Yes we will, no we won't," tactics. We've been screwed by the rail companies and the oil companies (the feds there too) and just about every other company or agency over the years.
When we hear Alberta and BC complain, we just laugh.
Just to get back to defecting Liberals....Kilgour has announced that he will sit as an independent on the Liberal side of the house. He doubts he'll run again. He's been a Conservative before and was a Liberal for a while. He doesn't trust Harper either.
http://www.rudemacedon.ca/ccc/ccc-index.html
Have a read of this if your sick of the Libs and Cons .These people make a lot of sense :wink:
Have a read of this if your sick of the Libs and Cons .These people make a lot of sense :wink:
RE: Liberals trailing beh
They make a ton of sense, Mr. Mom. They are also honest enough to admit that they aren't a united left or a single entity.
They make a ton of sense, Mr. Mom. They are also honest enough to admit that they aren't a united left or a single entity.
RE: Liberals trailing beh
You are in PQ I am in BC. I know in Quebec its like a soap opera. Newsworld has shown that many times. Bars etc full of people watching it. Out here it aint know where near as big as it is in Quebec. I have listened to talk radio all day at work and it is rarley mentioned here. I guess because it effects Quebec and not BC? I dunno. Or most people realize it is Chretiens fault and not Martins? after all they hated each other.
You are in PQ I am in BC. I know in Quebec its like a soap opera. Newsworld has shown that many times. Bars etc full of people watching it. Out here it aint know where near as big as it is in Quebec. I have listened to talk radio all day at work and it is rarley mentioned here. I guess because it effects Quebec and not BC? I dunno. Or most people realize it is Chretiens fault and not Martins? after all they hated each other.
RE: Liberals trailing beh
It's blowing over here too. It's all over the national news, but people's interest has gone elsewhere. I had a friend here for a bit today when Question Period was on...he's pretty apolitical. He summed up what I've heard from a lot of people by saying, "Does Harper know how to do anything but bitch about scandals?"
That's the deal. People are pissed off at the Liberals, but they don't like the Conservatives either. I keep telling them to vote for anybody but those two parties. I suspect they'll just not vote at all instead.
It's blowing over here too. It's all over the national news, but people's interest has gone elsewhere. I had a friend here for a bit today when Question Period was on...he's pretty apolitical. He summed up what I've heard from a lot of people by saying, "Does Harper know how to do anything but bitch about scandals?"
That's the deal. People are pissed off at the Liberals, but they don't like the Conservatives either. I keep telling them to vote for anybody but those two parties. I suspect they'll just not vote at all instead.
I live in Ontario and it's all over the papers and the news.
CTV Newsnet has been showing live testimony ALL day from the Gomery inquiry. Do you still think that it's blowing over.
Plus, the latest polls show the Liberals down to 27%. That's only 2% ahead of the NDP while the Conservatives are up to 34%. The gap is widening and we still have a month left of the Gomery inquiry. Although doubtful, at this rate, it will be a Conservative government with the NDP as opposition. I hope the Green party gets more seats than the Liberals.
Martin will get fired and can go back to avoiding paying taxes by registering his CSL in the Bahamas.
RE: Liberals trailing beh
CBC has been showing testimony all day too, little buddy. It's in all the papers. I wrote a thing related to it for here just yesterday.
I put that poll up, with links earlier today, BTW...along with an indepth analysis from another site. The Conservatives have picked up about 10%. The NDP are up about 26%. So who is benefitting most from this? Why?
Think about it, little buddy.
CBC has been showing testimony all day too, little buddy. It's in all the papers. I wrote a thing related to it for here just yesterday.
I put that poll up, with links earlier today, BTW...along with an indepth analysis from another site. The Conservatives have picked up about 10%. The NDP are up about 26%. So who is benefitting most from this? Why?
Think about it, little buddy.