Let the Scots sail off on another doomed adventure. They'll go bust again
- Thread starter Blackleaf
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What have the Vikings got to do with it? They didn't start Canada. The English did. And the English founded their first colonies before the Frogs and Jocks did (with the Jocks only doing so after they hopped onto the coattails of the English).
Ahhh, a fine picture of the common mating signal of English male.
Well done Blackie.... Well done!
The English founded the first colony there, you berk,
You must be referring to a temporary fishing station set up in Newfoundland because the French colonies around the Bay of Fundy were the first successful settlements of mainland Canada (1604) (an earlier Quebec colony failed) and the first permanent European settlement north of Florida.
You must be referring to a temporary fishing station set up in Newfoundland because the French colonies around the Bay of Fundy were the first successful settlements of mainland Canada (1604) (an earlier Quebec colony failed) and the first permanent European settlement north of Florida.
They were probably little groups at that, maybe lone family groups, at first.
Maybe expand your horizons a tad Blackloaf the sun shouldn't rise and set on nationalistic obsessions. I pretty sure that none of our ancient ancestors originated in where they are now. In other words, it don't fvckin matter.
The English did. And the English founded their first colonies before the Frogs
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"Our Next contestant is a Basque fisherman named Juan Arostegui who's seasonal fishing stations in the Americas seem to predate the arrival of the Bristolmen and were likely here before Columbus sailed (maybe, that is where Columbus got the idea from)."
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"Our Next contestant is a Basque fisherman named Juan Arostegui who's seasonal fishing stations in the Americas seem to predate the arrival of the Bristolmen and were likely here before Columbus sailed (maybe, that is where Columbus got the idea from)."
Since when were the Basques French, Scottish or Irish?
The first permanent French settlement in what is now Canuckia was Quebec City which was founded in 1608 by Samuel de Champlain.
This came AFTER the English founded Jamestown in what is now America and much after England's first permanent colony in what is now Canuckia, St John's, Newfoundland, which the English settled in 1583.
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So why did Jamestown celebrate its 400th anniversary in 2007 and Quebec City celebrate its 400th anniversary in 2008?
It seems to me as though the English founded Jamestown before the Frogs founded Quebec City.
Port Royal was settled in 1605 and destroyed by the English in 1613 and abandoned.
Jamestown was established in 1607. Practically the whole population starved to death over the next two years and another, fresh group of settlers arrived from England. It was settled until 1676 when it was burnt to the ground and in 1699 the site was permanently abandoned.
Tadoussac was founded in 1604 and has been settled ever since. Quebec was founded in 1608 and has been settled ever since.
Jamestown was established in 1607. Practically the whole population starved to death over the next two years and another, fresh group of settlers arrived from England. It was settled until 1676 when it was burnt to the ground and in 1699 the site was permanently abandoned.
Tadoussac was founded in 1604 and has been settled ever since. Quebec was founded in 1608 and has been settled ever since.
The English built a colony at St John's, Newfoundland, in 1583. Whether a settlement was permanently inhabited or temporarily inhabited is beside the point and is very much secondary to this discussion.
It amounted to a temporary fishing station. It was not the first. It wasn't even the first English one. It was the first one with "press".
The French established their first settlement in New France in 1541 at a place called Charlesbourg Royal. Like the one in Newfoundland, it did not "take".
The first permanent English settlement in North America was Jamestown in 1607. France's was Quebec City in 1608.
Jamestown wasn't permanent. It was abandoned at the end of the seventeenth century, for good. Quebec City is still going strong and was never abandoned, even after having been leveled by a long siege.