Legal Drugs versus Illegal alcohol

dumpthemonarchy

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I watched the TV news the other day and saw people on Vancouver's downtown eastside selling and consuming drugs. Yet if a typical person were to sell and consume alcohol on the street the police would arrest them. Why don't the police arrest people who are selling and consuming drugs on the streets of Vancouver? Canada may need a new drug tank.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Legal Drugs versus Il

I dunno...I remember walking around by that steam clock with a beer in my hand and nobody arrested me. Hell, a guy from Quebec has pictures of it. There were four of us drinking beer in the middle of the street while another guy, also drinking beer, took pictures of us and nobody bothered us at all. Maybe it was the matching jackets...
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: Legal Drugs versus Il

Reverend Blair said:
I dunno...I remember walking around by that steam clock with a beer in my hand and nobody arrested me. Hell, a guy from Quebec has pictures of it. There were four of us drinking beer in the middle of the street while another guy, also drinking beer, took pictures of us and nobody bothered us at all. Maybe it was the matching jackets...

You were lucky Rev. The only place I walk the streets with a beer in hand is Las Vegas. It is perfectly legal to drink alcohol outdoors as you're casino hopping.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Legal Drugs versus Il

The only place I've ever been arrested for it was Plentywood, Montana. It was okay though...the Sheridan County prison is a comfy place and a deputy named George gave me a smoke and a ride home.

The funniest thing is that pale white guys like me can stand on the street and drink beer while natives who are doing nothing wrong at all get hassled by the cops for using the sidewalk as a place to walk. Actually that isn't funny at all. It is a good reason to stay out of the sun though.
 

PoisonPete2

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lot's of people with beer milling about on sultry nights down dockside in Quebec City. Recommended.
 

manda

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you don't see people milling around drink in hand here, the grandma's would have a heart attack and cause a media frenzy, and be calling the police, social service etc. As much as I love it here, there are some areas that annoy me
 

dumpthemonarchy

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The police, like much of Cdn bureaucracy are picking on the middle class here who are frightened of being arrested for anything. Yet, the poor can shoot drugs on a street in Canada, and our leaders yawn. The public however does not like this.

This is part of the Four Pillars policy, formulated by the NPA in Vancouver to clean up the city's drug problem. The situation has gotten worse in many aspects, not better.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Here's an update on this issue. In the Vancouver Sun newspaper this morning, Nov 28, 2005, the article, "Police to arrest addicts who shoot up in public." Can be found at the URl

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/....html?id=367b0025-ced6-4c4f-8bcf-25676674515d

Clay Adams, director of communications with Vancouver Coastal Health, was quoted in the article as saying that if the police want to enforce the law with a view to getting drug addicts into safe injection sites, which means forcing them into safer practices for their cocaine, crystal meth or heroine habit, there's nothing wrong with that.

This comment means, the police should do actions that are part of approved plans by bureaucrats. Who is supposed to be running Canada, the public who vote for politicians to express their will and enforce the law for public safety, or unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats who will do everything possible to conceal their actions and intentions?

I'm sure there is plenty of available office space in the downtown Eastside that medical authorities can quickly rent to create new safe injection sites to take care of the additional drug addicts who will be forced off the street by the police.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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I also saw another article/editorial in the Vancouver Sun how the police are going after crime in downtown hotels where landlords stole from tenants, encouraged prostitution etc. Poverty advocates had prevented the police and city inspectors from doing their job in these hotels, on the idea that at least the poor had somewhere to go. Some of these hotels should be shut down or sold. So poverty advocates encouraged crime. This makes no sense.

Poverty advocates need to lobby the city of Vancouver and provincial gov't of BC and start a big time effort to house the poor. The city and province can afford it.
 

Nascar_James

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Consuming and/or selling alcohol on private property is legal, however hard drugs are not. Don't know about Vancouver, however police here would surely react if they witnessed selling and/or consuming of drugs anyplace. If you are mearly sitting on your porch having a beer on a nice summer day, you are doing nothing wrong. Walking public streets with a drink in hand though is a different matter.