Lakeside Packers/ Tyson strike

missile

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Here's a hope that the union accepts the deal. You never get everything you want in a first contract,so just remember that it's a good start on a brighter working future. I am ex CUPW :)
 

justmyself

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Re: RE: Lakeside Packers/ Tyson strike

Hank C Cheyenne said:
....its not fair for the workers who don't want to be part of a union...why should they have to sit out...... and the threatning and breaking of windows is not acceptable.... and they think they can just block buses of workers to keep them from doing their job...what about their rights to work in a free country...

...if a worker is not happy with the pay then what the hell is keeping them there...there are jobs everywhere...

...unions are a cause for lots of lost revenues and it is a fact that unionized workers have a higher rate of absenteeism.....but I'm just saying we need to protect the rights of the workers who want no part of a union.

I am new to this forum. This is my first post. I am not new to the Tyson situation as my son has been at the Lakeside Plant for the past 5 years.

This strike has little or nothing to do with wages. The workers are fighting for basic human rights that we take for granted in most civilized countries.

Lakeside Packers has been operating it's Brooks Plant like some third world sweatshop. Workers have not been treated with the deceny and respect that everybody in this world deserves.

As an example I can quote my son's situation from two years ago. He handles 75 lb blocks of meat anywhere from 8 - 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. His back got too sore to continue and he visited the nursing station where he was placed on light duty. After four weeks on light duty he saw no improvement and said he needed to see a doctor. He was told in no uncertain terms that if he went to see a doctor he would be fired and need never look for work at Lakeside Packers again.

This left him so confused that he didn't know where to turn so his nerves got down. I finally convinced him to say to hell with being fired and go to the doctor. He was immediately hospitalized. The doctor took him off work and recommended that he return home, some 3000 miles to recover. We supported him and helped him deal with the red tape and he recovered nicely.

He had to quit his job at Lakeside in order to avoid being blacklisted. He has been back in Brooks working at Lakeside again for more than year.

Anybody who thinks the workers at Lakeside don't deserve the protection a union offers should be made work there under the same conditions as my son. You will change your tune pretty damn fast.

This strike is not about wages. It never was. The workers are happy with the payscale. They just want to be treated like people.

Slavery was abolished everywhere in North America but someone forgot to tell the Managers at Lakeside Packers.

I just spoke to my son and he tells me that a deal is likely to be ratified this weekend and things should be back to normal by Monday or Tuesday.

If he gets injured in the future at least I have the peace of mind of knowing he can seek medical attention without fear of being fired and blacklisted.

BTW! He mentioned that the union isn't supporting the riff raff that damaged company and private property during the strike. In all likelihood they will be fired and he says good riddance to them

Will Lakeside Packers fire the riff raff in Upper Mangement that ran the Union President off the road? They should!

It is that top down goon like management style that caused this strike in the first place.

Get rid of the goons on both sides and you will have done the company a favour that everyone will appreciate. Productivity will soar and employees will look forward to going to work instead of dreading what tomorrow will bring. There should be no place for bullies, in the schoolyard or on a production floor.
 

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Right on justmyself!!! Welcome to the fourm. You will have to excuse pepper, basic human rights does not interest him....just greenbacks. I hope things improve.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Lakeside Packers/ Tys

Ah, it's good to hear from somebody who actually understands the situation. Welcome to the site, justmyself.

Tyson Foods has a well-earned reputation for treating workers brutally. Perhaps a union will smatern them up, at least in Canada.
 

no1important

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RE: Lakeside Packers/ Tys

Thanfully we have better labour laws here in Canada (even alberta is marginally better) compared to the US. Tyson's US style of union busting does not really work to well up here.

I have read stories about Tyson and the way they treat people. They are a horrible company.

I guess your familar with this site. By the way- Welcome to the board. :)
 
Welcome to the board justmyself. I am also new here. I was just in Brooks in August working on the organizing drive. We had the chance to meet Andy Krocker and thats only because one day we did an informational picket at the plant (the main road off the Trans Canada) and he called the RCMP on us. They told us that we could stay there as long as we didn't injur any workers or damage there cars. We also had black hats (Management) filming us. One lady who was a CLEFER (Concerned Lakeside Employee For Employee Rights) claimed we threw rocks at her. We were shocked to hear all the horror storries when we first got to Alberta and Brooks. We were also told not to show any emotion at all but it was very hard not to. When we did the picket for the bbq we hosted (thats what the informational picket was about) almost every car was honking and chanting '401, 401' as they drove by us.
 

justmyself

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Thank you for the welcome. Hopefully the contract will be ratified and this rogue employer can be brought into at least the 20th century. In time they may get rid of those goons at the top and hire some properly trained managers with people skills.

I have been in management for many years and it is my beleief that a worker who respects the boss will make a much better employee than one who loaths but fears tha boss.

Having said that, I personally know some of the Lakeside packers Supervisors. I met them when i visited Brooks last fall. They are decent people and most of them don't adhere to the "manage by bullying" management style but are intimidated by upper management. It flows fdwon the line. This company goes through 10,000 people a year. Obviously people are considered the same as the cows they slaughter.

Hopefully this is about to change but it has to start at the top and trickle down. Just saying hello when people show up for their shift would be a start. Then they might try to stop cursing at the workers. It isn't an effective management technique.

I have yet to see an application that asked how creative you could be with curse words. For Lakeside Supervisors the more you can curse the faster you move up through the ranks. The corporate culture is flawed and it can easily be changed by getting rid of one man.
 

no1important

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They constantly advertise for workers in the local papers out here. It seems they hire all the time. Obviously if they have to hire so many (and you said they go through 10,000 people a year and that doesn't surprise me) they have a morale problem to say the least.

When you treat people like garbage they aint going to bust their butt. If any place ever needed a union Tyson is the place.
 

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Well hopefully the union can "encourage" Lakeside/Tyson to improve working conditions.

Most empolyers I know want long term workers and do not work them to the bone until they quit or get fired, which seems to be the present situation in Brooks.
 

no1important

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You are right about the goon and thug mentality, sounds like the old days when unions were new on the scene.

Part of the problem too is the weak Labour laws in Alberta.
 

Reverend Blair

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I have yet to see an application that asked how creative you could be with curse words.

I tried for gig like that. I didn't get the contract though...they didn't like my price. I don't they fully appreciated my full vocabulary of obscenities. :wink:

Tyson's continual search for employees is really their weak spot. They are having trouble filling positions and will eventually be so short of workers that they will have to change. It is why companies like Tyson prefer to see a high unemployment rate...employees are easier to intimidate when there are fewer job options available.
 

justmyself

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I think with this contract things will change gradually. Work in a slaughter house will always be hard work but at least it should be safe and the workers should get a little respect for their hard work. Most importantly they should be allowed to seek medical attention when needed without fear of reprecussion.

BTW! The offloading facility I manage is not unionized. The topic of a union has never been brought up, to my knowledge.

The wages aren't high but people are well treated. I think that is the key to a safe and productive workplace.
 

missile

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I know what you mean :) I spent 3 years working for a man who treated me like family[he didn't pay them a lot either],but it was a fun place to work at.
 

justmyself

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The Lakeside Strike has been over for a week. The workers (strikers and non-strikers) are working side by side since Monday.

On my son's line 8 strikers are working alongside 4 who chose to cross the picket line and according to him they are all getting along just fine. They are all cracking jokes about the strike and each side has agreed to respect the others reasons for either striking or not striking.

It just goes to show that Lakeside has good people working for them and if the managers have even half a brain they will do whatever it takes to keep these people.

Maybe a good morning once in a while and an occasional pat on the back for a job well done at the end of the week is in order instead of the traditional Lakeside Packers racial slurs. :?:
 

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Thats all nice and all.

But it is too bad the Scabs are going to benefit from the gains the strikers made, who stood up for what they believed, and never crossed the line.

Hopefully the UFCW has it in their charter (like the TWU and PSAC) and can fine any scabs next time Tyson goes on strike. Believe me they will more than likely strike again when this contract is up.