Kim Jong Il Cut Off from "Toys"

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U.S. Bans Sale of iPods, Other U.S. Luxury Items, to North Korea
Wednesday, November 29, 2006
WASHINGTON AP —

The Bush administration wants North Korea's attention, so like a scolding parent it's trying to make it tougher for that country's eccentric leader to buy iPods, plasma televisions and Segway electric scooters.
The U.S. government's first-ever effort to use trade sanctions to personally aggravate a foreign president expressly targets items believed to be favored by Kim Jong Il or presented by him as gifts to the roughly 600 loyalist families who run the communist government.
Kim, who engineered a secret nuclear weapons program, has other options for obtaining the high-end consumer electronics and other items he wants.
But the list of proposed luxury sanctions, obtained by The Associated Press, aims to make Kim's swanky life harder: No more cognac, Rolex watches, cigarettes, artwork, expensive cars, Harley Davidson motorcycles or even personal watercraft, such as Jet Skis.
The new ban would extend even to music and sports equipment. The 5-foot-3 Kim is an enthusiastic basketball fan; then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright presented him with a ball signed by Michael Jordan during a rare diplomatic trip in 2000.
Experts said the effort — being coordinated under the United Nations — would be the first ever to curtail a specific category of goods not associated with military buildups or weapons designs, especially one so tailored to annoy a foreign leader. U.S. officials acknowledge that enforcing the ban on black-market trading would be difficult.
The population in North Korea, one of the world's most isolated economies, is impoverished and routinely suffers widescale food shortages. The new trade ban would forbid U.S. shipments there of Rolexes, French cognac, plasma TVs, yachts and more — all items favored by Kim but unattainable by most of the country.
"It's a new concept; it's kind of creative," said William Reinsch, a former senior Commerce Department official who oversaw trade restrictions with North Korea during Bill Clinton's presidency. Reinsch predicted governments will comply with the new sanctions, but agreed that efforts to block all underground shipments will be frustrated.
"The problem is there has always been and will always be this group of people who work at getting these goods illegally," Reinsch said. Small electronics, such as iPods or laptops, are "untraceable and available all over the place," he said. U.S. exports to North Korea are paltry, amounting to only $5.8 million last year.
The Distilled Spirits Council of the United States, the trade group for the liquor industry, said it supports the administration's policies toward North Korea. The Washington-based Personal Watercraft Industry Association said it also supports the U.S. sanctions — although it bristled at the notion a Jet Ski was a luxury.
"The thousands of Americans and Canadians who build, ship and sell personal watercraft are patriots first," said Maureen Healey, head of the trade group. She said it endorsed the ban "because of the narrow nature of this ban and the genuine dangers that responsible world governments are trying to stave off."
Defectors to South Korea have described Kim giving expensive gifts of cars, liquor and Japanese-made appliances to his most faithful bureaucrats.
"If you take away one of the tools of his control, perhaps you weaken the cohesion of his leadership," said Robert J. Einhorn, a former senior State Department official who visited North Korea with Albright and dined extravagantly there. "It can't hurt, but whether it works, we don't know."
Responding to North Korea's nuclear test Oct. 9, the U.N. Security Council voted to ban military supplies and weapons shipments — sanctions already imposed by the United States. It also banned sales of luxury goods but so far has left each country to define such items. Japan included beef, caviar and fatty tuna, along with expensive cars, motorcycles, cameras and more. Many European nations are still working on their lists.
U.S. intelligence officials who helped produce the Bush administration's list said Kim prefers Mercedes, BMW and Cadillac cars; Japanese and Harley Davidson motorcycles; Hennessy XO cognac from France and Johnny Walker Scotch whisky; Sony cameras and Japanese air conditioners.
Kim is reportedly under his physician's orders to avoid hard liquor and prefers French wines. He also is said to own an extensive movie library of more than 10,000 titles and prefers films about James Bond and Godzilla, along with Clint Eastwood's 1993 drama, "In the Line of Fire," and Whitney Houston's 1992 love story, "The Bodyguard."
Much of the U.S. information about Kim's preferences comes from defectors, including Kenji Fujimoto, the Japanese chef who fled in 2001 and wrote a book about his time with the North Korean leader.

He'll just get them from China - probably won't notice it. Strange assortment of goodies eh? Like he cares about those scrawny people wandering around the streets of N. Korea
 

MikeyDB

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Doesn't anyone but me get tired of this lunatics bullshchit?

If Americans had the sense to come in out of the rain they'd lose this bozo president and send the administration packing.
 

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Well, lets see here....

He managed to get a nuke program going right under the noses of bith democratic and republican presidents...

I'm wondering why we think we can keep him from getting an IPod?

Surely centrifuges for enrinching uranium are harder to get than IPods...
 

northstar

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This is such a tiny place in the world, yet this Kim fella is nasty nasty nasty.

His dictatorship is like Hitler, were everyone has to treat him with a God like fanatic dedication. He forces boys into military training and throws anyone suspected of not being an obedient Kim woreshipper into the Concentration/torture camp...

the more l got into the autrocities of this nation the more horror l felt.

It is really shocking while we live in such a world like this, that other countries have such conditions for human beings.There is no religious freedom, no freedom of speech and if you are the least bit suspicious to anyone, they report you and boom you and three genrations of your family is in starvation, torture and work camps for the rest of their lifes, no trial nessecary.

Handy dandy for anyone you don't like.

There is a complete disregard for other people in the world, such as their closest neighbour, south korea who had the delightful experience of not only being threatened with the first nuclear attack, but also had to inhale the polluted radiation filled air that was the fall-out of the experimental nuclear launch.

If it takes US SANCTIONS to pull this country under control from bombing us out of this century than by all means...who needs their IPODS...however Krazy Kim might be so pi$$$ed he tortures some innocent prisioners to make himself feel like a real man...
 

Sassylassie

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He's freaking crazy I believe he has "Little Man Syndrome" height people his height-he gains 3 inches with his hairdo thou. The people of Korea need not worry, China produces so many American knockoffs and I'm sure they'd love to flood the market with their inferior crap.
 

northstar

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LOL so true...I think Krazy Kim secretly wants to be a fashion statement....LOL

but on the not so bright side here is the grim reality behind mr. nutbar-

Grim fate for N. Korean prisoners
Centers of torture, deprivation and death
From CNN's Mike Chinoy
Friday, October 31, 2003 Posted: 0650 GMT ( 2:50 PM HKT)
TOKYO, Japan (CNN) -- Hidden in the valleys between high mountains in the northern provinces of North Korea lies one of the country's darkest secrets -- political penal labor prisons.

Known as Kwan-li-so, these massive, sprawling encampments are where people who dare to speak out against the government of Kim Jong ll are sent to pay for their perceived wrongdoings.
According to a report by the U.S. Committee for Human Rights in North Korea, about 150,000 to 200,000 North Koreans are locked away in political prisons.

Behind the walls of a Kwan-li-so conditions and treatment are brutal.

"People are starved to death, worked to death, frozen to death over a period of time, and it's just absolutely horrific, reminiscent of what we've read coming out of the old Gulags under Stalin," says Kansas Republican Sen. Sam Brownback.

Along with political prisoners, up to three generations of their families also are banished without trial -- usually for lifetime sentences in a system of "guilt by association," the report finds.

North Korean authorities have consistently denied these prison camps exist.

But rare pictures -- grainy and unsteady -- that were smuggled out of a camp near North Korea's border with China and acquired by a Japanese TV network provide compelling evidence of their existence.

The prisoners shown in the video are said to be North Koreans who tried to flee to China, or who were forcibly returned after escaping there. Satellite imagery offers further clues on the conditions in the prisons.

Former inmates recount a bleak existence under the eyes of ferocious guards.

"They beat people regardless of their sex or age," says a one-time prisoner. "My lip was split and I had such severe internal bleeding my excrement turned black with blood."

Escapees say dozens of prisoners are jammed into rudimentary huts.

"You couldn't even lie down," a former inmate says. "The back of the person in front of me touched my chest. There was no room to move."

The report describes hard labor at the camps involving mining for coal, iron deposits, gold and other ores, or logging and wood-cutting in nearby mountains. Inmates often work 12 or more hours a day, seven days a week, with time off only for national holidays.

Prisoners are provided only enough food to be kept on the verge of starvation.

Hunger yields large numbers of informants among the prisoners, leading to a prison culture of distrust and hostility.

Prisoners fight each other over scraps of food or over the clothing of deceased inmates.

The fate for those caught stealing food or attempting escape are quickly sealed.

One camp survivor recalls a public killing of an attempted escapee, who was tied and dragged behind a car in front of assembled prisoners until dead, after which time the other prisoners were required to pass by and place their hands on his bloodied corpse.

Another prisoner shouted out against this atrocity, and he was immediately shot to death.

There are growing calls to put Pyongyang's human rights record on the international agenda.

"We really have to push on this or we will create yet another episode of humanity's knowing something terrible is taking place and not reacting," says Brownback.

This week, the highest ranking official ever to flee North Korea is providing more ammunition on the inner workings of the North Korean system.

Hwang Jang Yop, a close advisor to Kim until he defected to South Korea in 1997, is making an unprecedented visit to the U.S. capital where he's been meeting with key members of Congress and Bush administration officials.

Hwang has warned against any nuclear deal that helps Kim's regime to survive. He argues pressure on human rights will contribute to the regime's collapse.

He has paid a price for such views. His wife and one daughter reportedly committed suicide after his defection. And three other children are said to be prisoners in labor camps.

and while l know the UN is just super bizzy with the decoration of their 9 billion dollar Trump designed building, what the h%ll are they doing while such horrible autrocities are being committed by this mini-Hitler?

Why is he not being arrested and tried for the many crimes he has made against humanity?

Why are these people, these innocent children still in these prisions if their is such proof that they exist?

We can kill two birds with one stone...just have his royal fat a$$ airlifted into the Afganistan mountainside and have the troops pretend he is a secret undercover officer, a Jew or a Christian, they hate both, and not only will the Islamic nuts be entertained and distracted, for they LOVE torture in the name of ALLAH, but we will take care of one of the worlds current threats...



 

Sassylassie

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Because globally it's easier to hate the US then deal with the true evil out there: Korea, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, China, the Bloc, the list is endless. I suppose it keeps the haters of the US from reading more than one News Paper. Global issues take time to investigate and reading articles on world events takes time from the haters internet mission of "Blaming the US" for all that ails the world.
 

northstar

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Ha! true...the U.S. is a mighty powerful force according to those threatened by justice and freedom. They are responsible for every slight, blamed for every war, blamed for all the inability of the Middle East Islamic Nations poverty...and we as well as the US are expected to pay, pay, pay...the amount of charity that comes from our tax dollars to pay the incompetant UN [7 billion/annually from the US alone...}, then the payment of forces to rebuild when hezbollah decides to break the opportunity to have a peace resolution...the list goes on and on...now we see this nit-whit getting sanctioned by the US AND the Islamic fanatics are for sure going to find a way to create propoganda to try to make the US look like the bad guys...

sad but true...