Kerry Won

Reverend Blair

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You should come to school here then, Apollo. We have some pretty decent universities and the drinking age is 18 in most provinces (19 in Saskatchewan).

It'll keep you safe from the draft and my understanding is that student visas are pretty easy to get.
 

Haggis McBagpipe

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Re: RE: Kerry Won

HousesOfApollo said:
I'm flattered. But I'm like a novelty around here. "It's the reasonable American!" *Circus side-show music playing*

Hmm, I would not label you the 'reasonable American' only because it is not reasonable to say you would like to see other countries invade your homeland and destroy it. Whatever is wrong with the US - and there is plenty - the solution sure doesn't lie in such a view.

The Americans who will get the US back on track one day are the ones who love what their country can be and have faith in the great things Americans have achieved. They see the huge problems and the corruption with eyes wide open, they see the ugliness yet remain optimistic that it can be changed. They don't give up, and they work their asses off to make the next four years bearable... and the four years after that, good.
 
Well, I was kind of kidding when I said that Canada should invade. We're all having problems being reasonable here. Things are not looking like they can change, because all the functions that initiate change have been taken over by the enemy. Our voting system, they own; our media system, they own. And if John Ashcroft has his way, they'll own the internet too. I can't be sure that I'm not being watched right now, nobody can; it's an atmosphere of paranoia.
 

Haggis McBagpipe

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Re: RE: Kerry Won

HousesOfApollo said:
Well, I was kind of kidding when I said that Canada should invade. We're all having problems being reasonable here. Things are not looking like they can change, because all the functions that initiate change have been taken over by the enemy. Our voting system, they own; our media system, they own. And if John Ashcroft has his way, they'll own the internet too. I can't be sure that I'm not being watched right now, nobody can; it's an atmosphere of paranoia.

Oh, I know you were kidding! I just meant that seriously, there are many Americans so upset with the US right now that they forget about the great things that are American. It is their - and your - responsibility to make sure that all the good things are still there for the next generation. You might not succeed, but you sure do want to try. The frustration, though, I sure can relate to that. Yesterday was the saddest day, pretty much around the world. It was gut-wrenching, and I cannot imagine what it must be like to actually live down there among people you know voted for Bush.

Anyway, sorry, I think my post didn't come across very well. :cool:
 
I cannot speak to those people anymore, I want to cut them away like a cancer. A cannot look at them, I haven't gotten outside the house in about 2 days. I'm eating tons of junk food, and basically just posting on these forums all day. The people who rallied together to oppose Bush, that is all that is good about America, and it got crushed. America is made up of people, and most of those people are idiots. Bush won in every state with an average IQ of less than 100, and kerry won in every state with an IQ over 100. There were too many STUPID PEOPLE, and there's just now educating that kind of willful ignorance.
 

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I'm not sure about BC...when I was young enough to worry about it I took a trip there with three friends. I don't remember most of it though. I remember trying to drive on mushrooms, I remember bailing Mike out of jail in Calgary, I remember being asked to leave a few campgrounds (one for being Sasquatch), but I don't remember what the drinking age was.

All the times I've been there since, I've been grown up and relatively well-behaved.

I think your country is going to have come apart a fair bit more before it joins the world community again, Apollo. People around the world are angry, palpably so. I feel sorry for the roughly 50% of Americans who are reasonable because they have to suffer doubly...under a regime they know is wrong and as those most likely to bear the brunt of the world's anger.
 

Haggis McBagpipe

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Re: RE: Kerry Won

HousesOfApollo said:
I cannot speak to those people anymore, I want to cut them away like a cancer. A cannot look at them, I haven't gotten outside the house in about 2 days. I'm eating tons of junk food, and basically just posting on these forums all day. The people who rallied together to oppose Bush, that is all that is good about America, and it got crushed.

They sure didn't get crushed, Apollo. They took a hit... a really, really big hit, but just a hit nevertheless. Taking a hit means you can hit back. What is it they say, 'your country needs you'... well, one could say the half that you fought with needs you.

And ahem, not leaving the house and eating too much junk food and posting to forums day and night is NOT going to help get the US back on track. :cool: It might make you stop caring, though, and that is a bad thing.
 
That's why they have to remember there is a resistance here, and that they have to support it. I completely understand their anger. The reasonable people are going to have to survive, we are not an INSIGNIFICANT MINORITY. We are, in fact, the majority. The votes were stolen from us by these electronic machines, the idiots just made it close enough to steal.

Wow! I bet that trip was fun. We went camping in Waterton earlier this year, and it was a blast! I don't know if I'll ever have that kind of fun anymore. And that's really sad.
 

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Re: RE: Kerry Won

HousesOfApollo said:
Haggis McBagpipe said:
And ahem, not leaving the house and eating too much junk food and posting to forums day and night is NOT going to help get the US back on track. :cool: It might make you stop caring, though, and that is a bad thing.

Dammit! Let me have my mourning period! :cussing: Mourning in America....

Two days is enough for the mourning, now you can go into semi-mourning, which means getting on your bicycle, grabbing some healthy food and getting your butt out there! :cool: Oh, and what the hell, you could always, as part of the semi-mourning process, stick some 'Ask me how I'm changing the environment' stickers on all the suepr-sized SUVs you see. :cool:
 

Reverend Blair

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Waterton is pretty close to you, Apollo...you can have that kind of again. Just don't try to have the kind of fun I had...people used to actually have a running pool on when I would get killed. Nobody thought I was going to make 25. Guess I fooled them. ;-)

Don't sit inside either. I'm sure there are some like-mided people your age in your area...go and party with them. You'll find you aren't alone and if you all get together you'll find things get easier.
 
Re: RE: Kerry Won

Haggis McBagpipe said:
HousesOfApollo said:
Haggis McBagpipe said:
And ahem, not leaving the house and eating too much junk food and posting to forums day and night is NOT going to help get the US back on track. :cool: It might make you stop caring, though, and that is a bad thing.

Dammit! Let me have my mourning period! :cussing: Mourning in America....

Two days is enough for the mourning, now you can go into semi-mourning, which means getting on your bicycle, grabbing some healthy food and getting your butt out there! :cool: Oh, and what the hell, you could always, as part of the semi-mourning process, stick some 'Ask me how I'm changing the environment' stickers on all the suepr-sized SUVs you see. :cool:

But I'm starting to like junk food again. Mmm, cookies and cake. I can be like Michael Moore :p . My bike is broken but I could always for a walk. Yea, I'm thinking that I might do that, but I'd get some s-hit from our a-hole cops. What I need to do is try to work with organization.
 
Re: RE: Kerry Won

Reverend Blair said:
Waterton is pretty close to you, Apollo...you can have that kind of again. Just don't try to have the kind of fun I had...people used to actually have a running pool on when I would get killed. Nobody thought I was going to make 25. Guess I fooled them. ;-)

Don't sit inside either. I'm sure there are some like-mided people your age in your area...go and party with them. You'll find you aren't alone and if you all get together you'll find things get easier.

Damn, most people my age are f-ucking Bush youths around here. Hell, I don't think I can make 21. Not with this kind of environment to live in.
 

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Re: RE: Kerry Won

HousesOfApollo said:
But I'm starting to like junk food again. Mmm, cookies and cake.

:cool: Think of junk food as the Food of Mainstream America, which most assuredly it is. I think that is at least half the reason why they think as they do... their brains are fried on fat and sugar.

The bicycle is broken? What the hell, steal a new one. Kidding! Bikes are cheap to fix, and riding around in the cold clear winter air is definitely a good way to wash Bush-thoughs out of your head for awhile. It worked for me yesterday and today, that's how I kept sane after Bush 'won' the election.
 

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HousesOfApollo said:
My theory is that they're made docile from the fluoride in the drinking water, and the fluoride in the toothpaste. They are make docile by anti-depressants that give people a false sense of security. Oh well, it's time to eat some REAL food for dinner. Talk to you later, my friends.

The first I don't buy, but I agree about the anti-depressants.

Enjoy your real food, gorge on it, then you won't have as much room for the junk food! :cool: Glad you've come to our forum, Apollo.
 

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Hey! PeaPod

Americans will find no safe harbourage in Canada.

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/Ottawa/Greg_Weston/2004/10/19/675510.html

http://www.nodraftnoway.org/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1093969526&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

I have a "personal" dislike for draft dodgers.
In the early 70's while newly married and living in Yellowknife, NWT, my wife and I belonged to a Bridge club.
A draft dodger who normally hid out with the Eskimo's, was of the opposing card player teams.
When I thought I was playing for who was paying for dinner .... I was playing for the wife.
She snuck off (like a snake in the grass) with the draft dodger!
:lol:
 

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The Martin government is dead wrong on this one. Canada did not join the war in Iraq because the evidence of a clear and present threat did not exist. The absence of a clear and present threat against the US...nothing less than working weapons of mass destruction and delivery systems capable of striking American targets...makes the invasion of Iraq illegal according to international agreements that both Canada and the United States are signatory to.

Canada is also signatory to international agreements stating that military personal cannot be forced to fight as aggressors in an illegal war. If refusal to participate in such a war puts them at risk of jail, then they are being persecuted for political beliefs and can claim refugee status in Canada.

Martin is trying to weasel out of Canada's legal obligations because of his insane need to be Georgie's lap dog. I hope to hell he loses in court.