Kansas Supreme Court Errs in Judgement

Hard-Luck Henry

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So you'd have a mentally challenged teenager sent to jail for 17 years, for having consentual sex, in order to send out message, James?

Some Christian you are ...
 

Nascar_James

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Re: RE: Kansas Supreme Court

Reverend Blair said:
So you're afraid that he might have gay sex again?

No Rev. I'm afraid he might re-engage in sexual activity with underage children. If he does, it is the fault of the Kansas Supreme Court.
 

Nascar_James

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Hard-Luck Henry said:
So you'd have a mentally challenged teenager sent to jail for 17 years, for having consentual sex, in order to send out message, James?

Some Christian you are ...

Henry, this is far more serious than you think. I don't know about your society, but in mine, it is unacceptable for grown men to engage in sexual activity with underage children. I wish this guy would have been placed in prison with the general public. The prisoners would surely have taught this guy a valuable lesson he would not soon forget. But now, alas ... he's going to be freed soon thanks to the Kansas Supreme Court.
 

GL Schmitt

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Nascar_James said:
. . . But now, alas ... he's going to be freed soon . . . .
You start locking up teenagers for having consensual sex and you won’t have one nation under god, you’ll have on nation under arrest. :lol:
 

Hard-Luck Henry

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Nascar_James said:
Henry, this is far more serious than you think. I don't know about your society, but in mine, it is unacceptable for grown men to engage in sexual activity with underage children. I wish this guy would have been placed in prison with the general public. The prisoners would surely have taught this guy a valuable lesson he would not soon forget. But now, alas ... he's going to be freed soon thanks to the Kansas Supreme Court.


Right. So this kid being forcibly buggered is morally acceptable to you, but consentual gay sex is not?

You're a mixed up kid, James. :roll:
 

Nascar_James

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Hard-Luck Henry said:
Nascar_James said:
Henry, this is far more serious than you think. I don't know about your society, but in mine, it is unacceptable for grown men to engage in sexual activity with underage children. I wish this guy would have been placed in prison with the general public. The prisoners would surely have taught this guy a valuable lesson he would not soon forget. But now, alas ... he's going to be freed soon thanks to the Kansas Supreme Court.


Right. So this kid being forcibly buggered is morally acceptable to you, but consentual gay sex is not?

You're a mixed up kid, James. :roll:

Why do you keep calling this guy a kid, Henry? He's not a kid. He's an adult, a grown man by definition. Adults and children and sex do not mix.

Do you know here in Oklahoma it is illegal to even date someone who's a minor (not yet 18 ) if you are an adult (18 and over). If you are 18 and caught dating someone who's not yet 18, you will get arrested.
 

GL Schmitt

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One last run at it, Jimbo.


Now, no doubt when you looked into your television set last night you thought you saw a Adult man.

What you saw was a twenty-three year old convict who had been locked up since he was arrested back in 2000.

He was not yet an adult when he committed his “crime.”

If you want to prosecute him as an adult of 23 ( now) you will have to release him because the “boy” he had sex with is 19 (now) and no longer a minor.

Surely you have the math to understand that the five year (60 months) he served is longer than the 15 months he should have got. (Four times the proper amount, in fact.)

Or do you want him to be incarcerated from the time that his previous sentence was discovered to be in error. In that way, he would serve five times (5X) the proper sentence.

What’s the matter, Jimbo?

Is it that you just like the idea of another mental defective going to jail?

Or is the completion for sheltered workshop jobs that stiff ?
 

Nascar_James

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GL Schmitt said:
One last run at it, Jimbo.


Now, no doubt when you looked into your television set last night you thought you saw a Adult man.

What you saw was a twenty-three year old convict who had been locked up since he was arrested back in 2000.

He was not yet an adult when he committed his “crime.”

If you want to prosecute him as an adult of 23 ( now) you will have to release him because the “boy” he had sex with is 19 (now) and no longer a minor.

Surely you have the math to understand that the five year (60 months) he served is longer than the 15 months he should have got. (Four times the proper amount, in fact.)

Or do you want him to be incarcerated from the time that his previous sentence was discovered to be in error. In that way, he would serve five times (5X) the proper sentence.

What’s the matter, Jimbo?

Is it that you just like the idea of another mental defective going to jail?

Or is the completion for sheltered workshop jobs that stiff ?

Yes he was an adult, GL. He was 18 at the time. See the initial post for details. You probably got confused with his initial prison time ... justified prison time that is ... 17 years.
 

GL Schmitt

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I'll take the Kansas Supreme Court's Judgement over yours.

Heck, I'll take my cat's judgememt over yours.

If you can't understand that 18 (the kid's age at the time) is less than 19 (the upper limit of the Romeo & Juliet exception) your parents should take you out of the sheltered workshop, before you do yourself an injury.
 

Andygal

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RE: Kansas Supreme Court

I'd take my cat's judgement over Nascar's too. My cat is pretty damn smart. She knows how to use the toilet.
 

Nascar_James

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GL Schmitt said:
I'll take the Kansas Supreme Court's Judgement over yours.

Heck, I'll take my cat's judgememt over yours.

If you can't understand that 18 (the kid's age at the time) is less than 19 (the upper limit of the Romeo & Juliet exception) your parents should take you out of the sheltered workshop, before you do yourself an injury.

Hell, I'll take anyone's judegment over yours. Particularly since your statement (bolded below) is incorrect. This kid was indeed an adult when he commited the crime as he was 18. SO YOU ARE WRONG IN YOUR STATEMENT BELOW! WRONG!

He was not yet an adult when he committed his “crime.”
 

Andygal

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RE: Kansas Supreme Court

WHY can't you READ Nascar, there is a law that allows lesser pentalties when the partners ages are within 4 years and one is under 19.

Plus the kid was mildy mentally retarded. You want to throw a disabled kid in jail for 2 decades because he had gay sex?