Johnson becomes 77th PM and forms a government of Brexiteers

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Jeremy Corbyn called for hundreds of thousands of people to protest outside the Palace of Westminster against Johnson and to call for him to hold a General Election. The trouble for Corbyn is, though, that hardly anyone turned up:
 

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Jeremy Corbyn called for hundreds of thousands of people to protest outside the Palace of Westminster against Johnson and to call for him to hold a General Election. The trouble for Corbyn is, though, that hardly anyone turned up:
Oh, well. The British people are pretty stupid.

But we knew that, right?
 

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I believe in Westminster parliamentary democracy, the same system that you have - you know, the one in which you elect the party, not the PM.
We have a parliamentary democracy, not a presidential one.
Boris and his newly appointed (minority) government have no mandate. They will not last long, once your Parliament is sitting again. You may be voting in a general election right around Halloween.
 

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There is only one poll that counts.
What is Boris waiting for with numbers like that? Imagine how easy Brexit will be with a Tory majority. What is Boris afraid of?
Perhaps, he does not believe your tabloid polls.

Boris doesn't need to call an election.

Repeat after me: "Britain is a parliamentary democracy, not a presidential one." Hopefully you'll finally get it.

I really did think you were finally starting to get it, but now we're back to square one.
 

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Boris doesn't need to call an election.
Repeat after me: "Britain is a parliamentary democracy, not a presidential one." Hopefully you'll finally get it.
I really did think you were finally starting to get it, but now we're back to square one.
Boris has no mandate.

Repeat after me: "In a Parliamentary Democracy, a wholly new government needs to seek the mandate of the electorate at the earliest possible opportunity" because Parliamentary democracies are democracies.

Boris knows that he doesn't have the support of the British people.
 

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Repeat after me: "In a Parliamentary Democracy, a wholly new government needs to seek the mandate of the electorate at the earliest possible opportunity" because Parliamentary democracies are democracies.
That's not how a parliamentary democracy works, so I'm not repeating it.

We elect the political party, not the PM. Once a political party has been elected into power, the leader then forms the government. The governing party can change its leader any time it likes - it could do it every week if it wants - but has no reason to hold an election every time it does so because the elected governing party is in power.

It also doesn't matter that Johnson has changed many members of the government. As most people know but not, I presume, you, Prime Ministers regularly change the members of the Cabinet - this is called a "reshuffle" - and do so without the need to hold a General Election.
 

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That's not how a parliamentary democracy works, so I'm not repeating it.
We elect the political party, not the PM. Once a political party has been elected into power, the leader then forms the government. The governing party can change its leader any time it likes - it could do it every week if it wants - but has no reason to hold an election every time it does so because the elected governing party is in power.
It also doesn't matter that Johnson has changed many members of the government. As most people know but not, I presume, you, Prime Ministers regularly change the members of the Cabinet - this is called a "reshuffle" - and do so without the need to hold a General Election.
Well, Boris is a dictator if he doesn't go to the electorate for a mandate, soon.

Yes, you have a wholly new government with a leader who needs confirmation by the British people and he needs a fresh mandate.

I'd bet that Good Queen Betty agrees with me. She does have some constitutional say ....
 

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Well, Boris is a dictator if he doesn't go to the electorate for a mandate, soon.

He cannot be a dictator by abiding by our ancient Westminster political system.

Don't be ludicrous.

who needs confirmation by the British people

Not under the Westminster system, he doesn't.

That is unless the system has been changed recently.
 
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So all those people who voted for Johnson over Hunt in the final round of voting weren't members of the public?
What a ridiculous question. If a handful of cronies in a back room vote to do something, that's "public support?" I guess that the KGB operated with overwhelming public support in the Soviet Union because a handful of members of their general public thought that it was a good idea to "disappear" millions?
About 150,000 members of the Conservative party voted and Boris was elected leader. The exact same process is done here in Canada when electing a new Conservative party leader.