Jesus was black.
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I can't imagine how you thought my discussion of Thomas' remarks about "great" meant that I assumed that all things that people imagine can exist - but it was typical of a tangential remark made on forums when people decide to comment on the poster rather than the subject.
Ah, fiddlesticks. There's no proof of Yeshua's existence anyway, so whether people think this myth was black, white, green, or whatever color is pretty much irrelevant.
You said that's an argument you use. You wrote this (emphasis mine). "The argument seems to imply that there is something great that caused other stuff and that because we can imagine the concept, it must exist. That's the argument I always use with the agnostics..."
Dex, so why not ask her what she actually meant if her comment seems vague or duplicitous to you?
Geeeez, you guys, arguing about what is perceived and what is meant is regressive. (And annoying to others as well as being off-topic)
Geeeez, you guys, arguing about what is perceived and what is meant is regressive. (And annoying to others as well as being off-topic)
Agnostic: "a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god"
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?agnostic
Atheist: "one who believes that there is no deity"
Anyone that acknowledges the concept of a God, but denies it exists, is an atheist. To deny that the concept exists is to be agnostic. As soon as an agnostic accepts the concept, they become an atheist.
That is the argument that I use with agnositcs, but this does not imply that I believe that: anything that can be imagined must exist. To leap to this conclusion would, without doubt, be taking a small statement about God and generalizing to conclude that I am speaking about all things.
As I pointed out above, Moses was raised in the house of a black man and thought he was of the Pharoah's race.
When Joseph and Mary were told to leave because of persecution, they fled to Egypt {Matt 2:13-15}. Had they been white as is alleged by so many European-Americans, why would they flee into a black man's land where they could easily stand out?
As for the texture of Jesus' hair we are told in Revelations 1:14 that it is woolen. Thus, Jesus was a Brother with an Afro!
Some may argue that God is everything, so it's easy to understand the confusion.
Caucasian Jews can also have a blue black woolen type of hair and even the Egyptians are caucasian, so why would Joseph and Mary stand out in Egypt? If the Pharoahs were considered to be black, then so were the caucasians.
Caucasian Jews or Ashkenaz did not convert to Judaism until the 8th century. Therefore, Jesus could not have borne any resemblance to them.