Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
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Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
The original "Gods" were female, as women possess the magical power of creating new life. As societies around the world transitioned from neolithic matriarchies to bronze age patriarchy, a number of other social changes began which are still continuing to impact with the evolution today.
Much of "male magic" involves men imitating women. For example, male circumcision is an attempt to make a man bleed from the genitals, which is what women do. Male priests usually wear skirts or dresses, and claim the power to create life, while denegrating female sexuality and any form of personal mind-expansion.
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Hinduism, are all generally male-dominated, sky-god worshipping, phallocentric dominator religions. All claim that the physical world is bad, sinful, and to be moved away from. Whether Heaven or Nirvana, all urge followers to turn away from the physical, sexual, real world, and to seek instead an abstract, mental state of perfection.
I believe that the flesh is sacred, that the physical world is the spiritual world, and that heaven is on earth. I believe in pleasure, mind-expansion, playful sexuality and finding the divine in my own way. All of these beliefs are diametrically opposed to all the world's major religious teachings.
The male gods are all usually "shepherds" and we are the flock. Our role is to seek to obey the will of the Father, as given to us in a hierarchical fashion by the Father's minion, the Priest. The idea that our body is not our own is an extension of this metaphor. Christians and others teach that pleasure, sex and other decisions about our own bodies and lives are not ours to make because we do not "own" our bodies, our body is owned by the God/State and we are merely living in it, but it is not ours.
merryclaire said:
The original "Gods" were female, as women possess the magical power of creating new life. As societies around the world transitioned from neolithic matriarchies to bronze age patriarchy, a number of other social changes began which are still continuing to impact with the evolution today.
Much of "male magic" involves men imitating women. For example, male circumcision is an attempt to make a man bleed from the genitals, which is what women do. Male priests usually wear skirts or dresses, and claim the power to create life, while denegrating female sexuality and any form of personal mind-expansion.
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Hinduism, are all generally male-dominated, sky-god worshipping, phallocentric dominator religions. All claim that the physical world is bad, sinful, and to be moved away from. Whether Heaven or Nirvana, all urge followers to turn away from the physical, sexual, real world, and to seek instead an abstract, mental state of perfection.
I believe that the flesh is sacred, that the physical world is the spiritual world, and that heaven is on earth. I believe in pleasure, mind-expansion, playful sexuality and finding the divine in my own way. All of these beliefs are diametrically opposed to all the world's major religious teachings.
The male gods are all usually "shepherds" and we are the flock. Our role is to seek to obey the will of the Father, as given to us in a hierarchical fashion by the Father's minion, the Priest. The idea that our body is not our own is an extension of this metaphor. Christians and others teach that pleasure, sex and other decisions about our own bodies and lives are not ours to make because we do not "own" our bodies, our body is owned by the God/State and we are merely living in it, but it is not ours.
Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
The original "Gods" were female, as women possess the magical power of creating new life. As societies around the world transitioned from neolithic matriarchies to bronze age patriarchy, a number of other social changes began which are still continuing to impact with the evolution today.
Much of "male magic" involves men imitating women. For example, male circumcision is an attempt to make a man bleed from the genitals, which is what women do. Male priests usually wear skirts or dresses, and claim the power to create life, while denegrating female sexuality and any form of personal mind-expansion.
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Hinduism, are all generally male-dominated, sky-god worshipping, phallocentric dominator religions. All claim that the physical world is bad, sinful, and to be moved away from. Whether Heaven or Nirvana, all urge followers to turn away from the physical, sexual, real world, and to seek instead an abstract, mental state of perfection.
I believe that the flesh is sacred, that the physical world is the spiritual world, and that heaven is on earth. I believe in pleasure, mind-expansion, playful sexuality and finding the divine in my own way. All of these beliefs are diametrically opposed to all the world's major religious teachings.
The male gods are all usually "shepherds" and we are the flock. Our role is to seek to obey the will of the Father, as given to us in a hierarchical fashion by the Father's minion, the Priest. The idea that our body is not our own is an extension of this metaphor. Christians and others teach that pleasure, sex and other decisions about our own bodies and lives are not ours to make because we do not "own" our bodies, our body is owned by the God/State and we are merely living in it, but it is not ours.
merryclaire said:
The original "Gods" were female, as women possess the magical power of creating new life. As societies around the world transitioned from neolithic matriarchies to bronze age patriarchy, a number of other social changes began which are still continuing to impact with the evolution today.
Much of "male magic" involves men imitating women. For example, male circumcision is an attempt to make a man bleed from the genitals, which is what women do. Male priests usually wear skirts or dresses, and claim the power to create life, while denegrating female sexuality and any form of personal mind-expansion.
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Hinduism, are all generally male-dominated, sky-god worshipping, phallocentric dominator religions. All claim that the physical world is bad, sinful, and to be moved away from. Whether Heaven or Nirvana, all urge followers to turn away from the physical, sexual, real world, and to seek instead an abstract, mental state of perfection.
I believe that the flesh is sacred, that the physical world is the spiritual world, and that heaven is on earth. I believe in pleasure, mind-expansion, playful sexuality and finding the divine in my own way. All of these beliefs are diametrically opposed to all the world's major religious teachings.
The male gods are all usually "shepherds" and we are the flock. Our role is to seek to obey the will of the Father, as given to us in a hierarchical fashion by the Father's minion, the Priest. The idea that our body is not our own is an extension of this metaphor. Christians and others teach that pleasure, sex and other decisions about our own bodies and lives are not ours to make because we do not "own" our bodies, our body is owned by the God/State and we are merely living in it, but it is not ours.
Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
The original "Gods" were female, as women possess the magical power of creating new life. As societies around the world transitioned from neolithic matriarchies to bronze age patriarchy, a number of other social changes began which are still continuing to impact with the evolution today.
Much of "male magic" involves men imitating women. For example, male circumcision is an attempt to make a man bleed from the genitals, which is what women do. Male priests usually wear skirts or dresses, and claim the power to create life, while denegrating female sexuality and any form of personal mind-expansion.
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Hinduism, are all generally male-dominated, sky-god worshipping, phallocentric dominator religions. All claim that the physical world is bad, sinful, and to be moved away from. Whether Heaven or Nirvana, all urge followers to turn away from the physical, sexual, real world, and to seek instead an abstract, mental state of perfection.
I believe that the flesh is sacred, that the physical world is the spiritual world, and that heaven is on earth. I believe in pleasure, mind-expansion, playful sexuality and finding the divine in my own way. All of these beliefs are diametrically opposed to all the world's major religious teachings.
The male gods are all usually "shepherds" and we are the flock. Our role is to seek to obey the will of the Father, as given to us in a hierarchical fashion by the Father's minion, the Priest. The idea that our body is not our own is an extension of this metaphor. Christians and others teach that pleasure, sex and other decisions about our own bodies and lives are not ours to make because we do not "own" our bodies, our body is owned by the God/State and we are merely living in it, but it is not ours.
merryclaire said:
The original "Gods" were female, as women possess the magical power of creating new life. As societies around the world transitioned from neolithic matriarchies to bronze age patriarchy, a number of other social changes began which are still continuing to impact with the evolution today.
Much of "male magic" involves men imitating women. For example, male circumcision is an attempt to make a man bleed from the genitals, which is what women do. Male priests usually wear skirts or dresses, and claim the power to create life, while denegrating female sexuality and any form of personal mind-expansion.
Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Judiasm, Hinduism, are all generally male-dominated, sky-god worshipping, phallocentric dominator religions. All claim that the physical world is bad, sinful, and to be moved away from. Whether Heaven or Nirvana, all urge followers to turn away from the physical, sexual, real world, and to seek instead an abstract, mental state of perfection.
I believe that the flesh is sacred, that the physical world is the spiritual world, and that heaven is on earth. I believe in pleasure, mind-expansion, playful sexuality and finding the divine in my own way. All of these beliefs are diametrically opposed to all the world's major religious teachings.
The male gods are all usually "shepherds" and we are the flock. Our role is to seek to obey the will of the Father, as given to us in a hierarchical fashion by the Father's minion, the Priest. The idea that our body is not our own is an extension of this metaphor. Christians and others teach that pleasure, sex and other decisions about our own bodies and lives are not ours to make because we do not "own" our bodies, our body is owned by the God/State and we are merely living in it, but it is not ours.
sometimes i feel so unheard *sigh*
i think the majority of the people on this board, just like to hear the sound of their own typing
i think the majority of the people on this board, just like to hear the sound of their own typing
sometimes i feel so unheard *sigh*
i think the majority of the people on this board, just like to hear the sound of their own typing
i think the majority of the people on this board, just like to hear the sound of their own typing
sometimes i feel so unheard *sigh*
i think the majority of the people on this board, just like to hear the sound of their own typing
i think the majority of the people on this board, just like to hear the sound of their own typing
Vanni,
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
Vanni,
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
Vanni,
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
Me too, merryclaire. Sorry, I missed your last post due to the plethora of attempts to turn this thread into yet another discussion of same-sex marriage and abortion.
That seems to be something that became common to most cultures as they shifted from being hunter-gatherers to farmers. The division of labour changed and women became subordinate.
The Greeks (and the Egyptians, and the Romans) did the same basic thing that happened in the Jewish tradition. So many of the gods and traditions of these cultures intertwine or are derivative of each other that it is likely that they all grew out of the religion of the fertile crescent we now call Iraq. That's the shift to farming is thought to have first taken place. It's likely that more than the knowledge of how to plant seeds was transferred from place to place.
Women as chattel makes sense in the context of primitive agrarian societies. Larger herds meant more wealth, power and status. Territory now had to be protected not from other wandering tribes, but from permanent encroachment. People had spare time. The concept of money developed.
Instead of the men going out on hunts while the women gathered plants, the men began raising animals and doing the planting and harvesting. Birth rates took off, so women became tenders of children and baby-making machines instead of equals at making a living.
That all sounds terribly misogynistic, and it is. It didn't have to be that way, but that does seem to be how things turned out. If you look at archaelogical evidence in the area, you can see the number of goddess statues shrinking as farming takes hold. As the communities get large enough for real trade to take place, you see patriarchal gods taking hold. As trade took farming with it, matriarchies became patriarchies.
Now, to get back to the Greeks....In the most primitive archaeological finds they were worshipping earth goddesses just like everybody else. There were male gods, but they were subordinate. When farming comes in suddenly the male gods become the ones in charge.
By the time the stories are recorded there is Zeus, and he's in charge. His wife isn't really subordinate though. She isn't as powerful, but she definitely has ways of dealing with Zeus. In Greek society there seems to be a disconnect between the men and the women, almost like they become two separate societies who tolerate each other but interact only when necessary. The goddesses don't disappear and still retain their power, something that isn't seen in cultures where men and women interact.
It isn't clear whether the religion caused the separate socities or the separate societies caused the religion, but it is different than than the dynamic in other cultures.
Me too, merryclaire. Sorry, I missed your last post due to the plethora of attempts to turn this thread into yet another discussion of same-sex marriage and abortion.
That seems to be something that became common to most cultures as they shifted from being hunter-gatherers to farmers. The division of labour changed and women became subordinate.
The Greeks (and the Egyptians, and the Romans) did the same basic thing that happened in the Jewish tradition. So many of the gods and traditions of these cultures intertwine or are derivative of each other that it is likely that they all grew out of the religion of the fertile crescent we now call Iraq. That's the shift to farming is thought to have first taken place. It's likely that more than the knowledge of how to plant seeds was transferred from place to place.
Women as chattel makes sense in the context of primitive agrarian societies. Larger herds meant more wealth, power and status. Territory now had to be protected not from other wandering tribes, but from permanent encroachment. People had spare time. The concept of money developed.
Instead of the men going out on hunts while the women gathered plants, the men began raising animals and doing the planting and harvesting. Birth rates took off, so women became tenders of children and baby-making machines instead of equals at making a living.
That all sounds terribly misogynistic, and it is. It didn't have to be that way, but that does seem to be how things turned out. If you look at archaelogical evidence in the area, you can see the number of goddess statues shrinking as farming takes hold. As the communities get large enough for real trade to take place, you see patriarchal gods taking hold. As trade took farming with it, matriarchies became patriarchies.
Now, to get back to the Greeks....In the most primitive archaeological finds they were worshipping earth goddesses just like everybody else. There were male gods, but they were subordinate. When farming comes in suddenly the male gods become the ones in charge.
By the time the stories are recorded there is Zeus, and he's in charge. His wife isn't really subordinate though. She isn't as powerful, but she definitely has ways of dealing with Zeus. In Greek society there seems to be a disconnect between the men and the women, almost like they become two separate societies who tolerate each other but interact only when necessary. The goddesses don't disappear and still retain their power, something that isn't seen in cultures where men and women interact.
It isn't clear whether the religion caused the separate socities or the separate societies caused the religion, but it is different than than the dynamic in other cultures.
Me too, merryclaire. Sorry, I missed your last post due to the plethora of attempts to turn this thread into yet another discussion of same-sex marriage and abortion.
That seems to be something that became common to most cultures as they shifted from being hunter-gatherers to farmers. The division of labour changed and women became subordinate.
The Greeks (and the Egyptians, and the Romans) did the same basic thing that happened in the Jewish tradition. So many of the gods and traditions of these cultures intertwine or are derivative of each other that it is likely that they all grew out of the religion of the fertile crescent we now call Iraq. That's the shift to farming is thought to have first taken place. It's likely that more than the knowledge of how to plant seeds was transferred from place to place.
Women as chattel makes sense in the context of primitive agrarian societies. Larger herds meant more wealth, power and status. Territory now had to be protected not from other wandering tribes, but from permanent encroachment. People had spare time. The concept of money developed.
Instead of the men going out on hunts while the women gathered plants, the men began raising animals and doing the planting and harvesting. Birth rates took off, so women became tenders of children and baby-making machines instead of equals at making a living.
That all sounds terribly misogynistic, and it is. It didn't have to be that way, but that does seem to be how things turned out. If you look at archaelogical evidence in the area, you can see the number of goddess statues shrinking as farming takes hold. As the communities get large enough for real trade to take place, you see patriarchal gods taking hold. As trade took farming with it, matriarchies became patriarchies.
Now, to get back to the Greeks....In the most primitive archaeological finds they were worshipping earth goddesses just like everybody else. There were male gods, but they were subordinate. When farming comes in suddenly the male gods become the ones in charge.
By the time the stories are recorded there is Zeus, and he's in charge. His wife isn't really subordinate though. She isn't as powerful, but she definitely has ways of dealing with Zeus. In Greek society there seems to be a disconnect between the men and the women, almost like they become two separate societies who tolerate each other but interact only when necessary. The goddesses don't disappear and still retain their power, something that isn't seen in cultures where men and women interact.
It isn't clear whether the religion caused the separate socities or the separate societies caused the religion, but it is different than than the dynamic in other cultures.
Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
You seem to have a few misconceptions concerning my attitude...for my part, I am extremely tolerant of everyone...I tolerate all religions so long as they do not, with their maniacal rantings, infringe upon the rights of others...
I am all for the right to believe in Yahweh, Jesus, G_d or Allah, even though I find it senseless and absurd...but once others are affected by the propoganda of hatred and intolerance that most religions, Christianity included, promote, then I feel that the right has been abused, and should be rescinded...
Does that clear things up for you at all?
tibear said:Vanni,
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
You seem to have a few misconceptions concerning my attitude...for my part, I am extremely tolerant of everyone...I tolerate all religions so long as they do not, with their maniacal rantings, infringe upon the rights of others...
I am all for the right to believe in Yahweh, Jesus, G_d or Allah, even though I find it senseless and absurd...but once others are affected by the propoganda of hatred and intolerance that most religions, Christianity included, promote, then I feel that the right has been abused, and should be rescinded...
Does that clear things up for you at all?
Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
You seem to have a few misconceptions concerning my attitude...for my part, I am extremely tolerant of everyone...I tolerate all religions so long as they do not, with their maniacal rantings, infringe upon the rights of others...
I am all for the right to believe in Yahweh, Jesus, G_d or Allah, even though I find it senseless and absurd...but once others are affected by the propoganda of hatred and intolerance that most religions, Christianity included, promote, then I feel that the right has been abused, and should be rescinded...
Does that clear things up for you at all?
tibear said:Vanni,
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
You seem to have a few misconceptions concerning my attitude...for my part, I am extremely tolerant of everyone...I tolerate all religions so long as they do not, with their maniacal rantings, infringe upon the rights of others...
I am all for the right to believe in Yahweh, Jesus, G_d or Allah, even though I find it senseless and absurd...but once others are affected by the propoganda of hatred and intolerance that most religions, Christianity included, promote, then I feel that the right has been abused, and should be rescinded...
Does that clear things up for you at all?
Re: RE: Jesus Christ healed with marijuana
You seem to have a few misconceptions concerning my attitude...for my part, I am extremely tolerant of everyone...I tolerate all religions so long as they do not, with their maniacal rantings, infringe upon the rights of others...
I am all for the right to believe in Yahweh, Jesus, G_d or Allah, even though I find it senseless and absurd...but once others are affected by the propoganda of hatred and intolerance that most religions, Christianity included, promote, then I feel that the right has been abused, and should be rescinded...
Does that clear things up for you at all?
tibear said:Vanni,
I like the word tolerance.
Do you tolerate those you disagree with?? What about their attitudes that you disagree with, do you tolerate the attitudes??
The way you speak it sounds like we should round up all of the people who have reservations about SSM and shoot them because of their stupid ideas. Is this tolerance??
You seem to have a few misconceptions concerning my attitude...for my part, I am extremely tolerant of everyone...I tolerate all religions so long as they do not, with their maniacal rantings, infringe upon the rights of others...
I am all for the right to believe in Yahweh, Jesus, G_d or Allah, even though I find it senseless and absurd...but once others are affected by the propoganda of hatred and intolerance that most religions, Christianity included, promote, then I feel that the right has been abused, and should be rescinded...
Does that clear things up for you at all?
RE: Jesus Christ healed w
Since we seem unable to keep religious tolerance separate from the subject of Jesus and pot or the sub-text of martriarchy becoming patriarchy....
There also seem to be a lot of prohibitions show up as societies shift and gods become male. Part of that is women becoming chattel (don't go boning my baby, it lessens her cash value) and kind of moves on from there. The priestesses become priests, so the mind altering substances used to get closer to gods switch from the domain of women to the domain of men.
It's also, as a lot of learn as teenagers, easier to convince a young lady to do the horizontal bop if you can give her something to relax her a bit...pot and lemon gin have a lot in common. That makes it imperative that the old men, if they want to stay in charge, control the panty remover.
That's been one of the driving forces of prohibition of drugs throughout history. You can read it in ancient texts or rent Reefer Madness at the video store or listen to the insane rantings of Sunday morning preachers tomorrow morning.
Since we seem unable to keep religious tolerance separate from the subject of Jesus and pot or the sub-text of martriarchy becoming patriarchy....
There also seem to be a lot of prohibitions show up as societies shift and gods become male. Part of that is women becoming chattel (don't go boning my baby, it lessens her cash value) and kind of moves on from there. The priestesses become priests, so the mind altering substances used to get closer to gods switch from the domain of women to the domain of men.
It's also, as a lot of learn as teenagers, easier to convince a young lady to do the horizontal bop if you can give her something to relax her a bit...pot and lemon gin have a lot in common. That makes it imperative that the old men, if they want to stay in charge, control the panty remover.
That's been one of the driving forces of prohibition of drugs throughout history. You can read it in ancient texts or rent Reefer Madness at the video store or listen to the insane rantings of Sunday morning preachers tomorrow morning.
RE: Jesus Christ healed w
Since we seem unable to keep religious tolerance separate from the subject of Jesus and pot or the sub-text of martriarchy becoming patriarchy....
There also seem to be a lot of prohibitions show up as societies shift and gods become male. Part of that is women becoming chattel (don't go boning my baby, it lessens her cash value) and kind of moves on from there. The priestesses become priests, so the mind altering substances used to get closer to gods switch from the domain of women to the domain of men.
It's also, as a lot of learn as teenagers, easier to convince a young lady to do the horizontal bop if you can give her something to relax her a bit...pot and lemon gin have a lot in common. That makes it imperative that the old men, if they want to stay in charge, control the panty remover.
That's been one of the driving forces of prohibition of drugs throughout history. You can read it in ancient texts or rent Reefer Madness at the video store or listen to the insane rantings of Sunday morning preachers tomorrow morning.
Since we seem unable to keep religious tolerance separate from the subject of Jesus and pot or the sub-text of martriarchy becoming patriarchy....
There also seem to be a lot of prohibitions show up as societies shift and gods become male. Part of that is women becoming chattel (don't go boning my baby, it lessens her cash value) and kind of moves on from there. The priestesses become priests, so the mind altering substances used to get closer to gods switch from the domain of women to the domain of men.
It's also, as a lot of learn as teenagers, easier to convince a young lady to do the horizontal bop if you can give her something to relax her a bit...pot and lemon gin have a lot in common. That makes it imperative that the old men, if they want to stay in charge, control the panty remover.
That's been one of the driving forces of prohibition of drugs throughout history. You can read it in ancient texts or rent Reefer Madness at the video store or listen to the insane rantings of Sunday morning preachers tomorrow morning.