Jack's Folly.....

Colpy

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One thing Martin has done in this whole tax reduction mess....he's proven Jack Layton is an idiot.

Jack made his deal with the devil last spring. " Drop tax cuts for business, and we will support you."

Jack trusted the Liberals. Or was he just seduced by the constant exposure to TV cameras his deal making caused?

Anyway, the Liberals have come back with a vengence. According to the National Post, corporate tax cuts will now be in the order of $4 Billion, up from $3.8 Billion Capital tax rates will be eliminated two years sooner than indicated in the spring budget.

So Jack cynically supported a corrupt government that had, in all but the most technical sense, lost the right to govern. In return, he got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!!

Well done Jack! You've demonstrated very well your own incompetence.
 
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Had we have dealt with this when we should have, it wouldn't be an issue.

(But we are in perpetual "Canadians don't want an election right now" mode)
 
Jay

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The current test is...Can you reach the age of 18?
 
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Reverend Blair

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One thing Martin has done in this whole tax reduction mess....he's proven Jack Layton is an idiot.

Jack made his deal with the devil last spring. " Drop tax cuts for business, and we will support you."
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What a crock. Doesn't all that spinning make you dizzy, Colpy?

The tax cuts happened like this:

Martin: We're going to cut corporate taxes instead of fulfilling the campaign promises that we stole from the NDP platform.

Harper: This budget is great. It's like a Conservative budget in the way that it panders to corporations and does nothing to help Canadians. I'll vote for it, but I wish there was some way of paying tribute to George Bush. Georgie makes me wet.

Layton: What about the promises you made to Canadians, Paul? There were no corporate tax cuts in your platform.

time passes and Harper looks at some poll results

Harper: I want to be Prime Minister and don't care about Canadians, so I can't support the budget I thought was so great.

Layton: You know, Paul, I can support the budget if you fulfill the election promises you stole from the NDP platform.

Martin: But we can't afford that.

Layton: You can if you take out those tax cuts that you only put in to make Harper and your corporate cronies happy.

Martin: Okay, I'll do it.

The Canadian People: Yay! Hurrah! Way to go, Jack!

Harper and his ites: Whine, snivel, cry. Jack Layton is a communist for putting the Canadian people before the corporate hacks we kneel in front of. Let's whip up some separatist sentiment in Alberta. Maybe one day we can all be Americans.
 
Colpy

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Reverend Blair said:
One thing Martin has done in this whole tax reduction mess....he's proven Jack Layton is an idiot.

Jack made his deal with the devil last spring. " Drop tax cuts for business, and we will support you."
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What a crock. Doesn't all that spinning make you dizzy, Colpy?

icans.
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When it comes to spinning, I could not hold a candle to you.

Spin it how you like, the meat of the matter is that Ducceppe and Harper wanted to kill off this corrupt, ineffective, wasteful government and go to the people. They were prevented from doing so by Layton, and one Belinda Stronach, both of whom sold their souls to the Devil.

Turns out Belinda got a cabinet post. Layton got nothing.

Layton looks like a complete idiot.

That's the Readers Digest Condensed version.
 
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Reverend Blair

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Reader's Digest has been slaughtering truth for years, Colpy. Their condensed versions drop all of the nuance and meaning from literature. Apt comparison to your spin, but I'm surprised you were foolish enough to admit it.

The fact of the matter is that Duceppe wants to bring down the government because he's trying to break up the country. The fact of the matter is that Harper wants people to think he's a real boy and he's deluded enough to think that being PM will accomplish that.

The fact of the matter is that Layton decided to wait until the facts were known about Sponsorship. They weren't uncritical of the Liberals...Bill Blaikie got a standing ovation in the House for his call for the Liberals to put money in trust...but they understood that Canadians expected them to do their job too.

The NDP did try to get things done. Those things were popular with the majority of Canadians. That scared Stevie and the Harperites so now they lash out like cornered rats.

The truth is that the Conservatives have been looking at the numbers and realising that they are at risk of losing several seats to the NDP, so they've decided to crank up the rhetoric, the spin, and the outright lies.
 
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"The Canadian People: Yay! Hurrah! Way to go, Jack! "


As proven by the very large amount of seats he holds.
 
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Reverend Blair

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Nope, the NDP know exactly where they stand in the polls and the odd dichotomy between that and how their policies poll when presented without mention of parties.

It's Harper who likes to mumble about a silent majority that doesn't exist.
 
Jo Canadian

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Colpy said:
That's the Readers Digest Condensed version.
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8O ooooooo


Sorry, but I can't take anything dealing with RD seriously. Having worked for them for some time and talking with thousands of customers, I can certainly tell you that RD caters to the lowest common denominator...in other words it's not an intellectually elite magazine.


It seems that any decision that Jack will make is going to be critisized. He could make the sun shine out of his butt and those on the right will complain about the UV factor. :roll: As I said before in another post: He'll be damned if he did, and damned if he didn't.
 
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Reverend Blair

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Most polls do reflect that though, SJ...not as individual polls but as a way of determining trends.

If you take all the polls done within a couple of weeks and compare them with all of the polls done a couple of weeks before that, they reflect the popular vote pretty accurately. If you take seat projections determined by those polls in specific areas, those are pretty accurate too.

The mistake that people make is pointing at a single poll and saying, "A ha" when it supports their views. Those are usually the same people who claim that polls don't matter when the results don't support their views.
 
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hehehhe looks like the NDP is gaining 8) hey maybe while the liberals and the conservatives run back and forth smearing and bullshiting, the NDP might just walk away with the golden egg. Wouldn't that be sweet 8)


Post-Gomery interim report shows significant NDP gain in Ontario.

Dateline: Sunday, November 20, 2005

by Nik Nanos

Here it is... our follow up poll that looks at the change in public opinion over the last fourteen days along with some comparative Gomery questions from our survey in May.
http://www.straightgoods.ca/ViewFeature5.cfm?REF=542
 
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