It's fun to shoot some people: US General

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maybe. but they went too far. Perpetrated themselves in power, killing their own people. No elections. They have to go. Meanwhile ABc's(American bashing canadians) and their European brethren kept yapping at the sidelines , while thousands are killed.
 

NSA

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RE: It's fun to shoot som

And I walked in and sat down and they gave
me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

- "Alice's Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie
 

NSA

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RE: It's fun to shoot som

And I walked in and sat down and they gave
me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

- "Alice's Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie
 

NSA

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Jan 20, 2005
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Guelph, Ontario
RE: It's fun to shoot som

And I walked in and sat down and they gave
me a piece of paper, said, "Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604."

And I went up there, I said, "Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

- "Alice's Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie
 

Twila

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Mar 26, 2003
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One thing that is hard for us to understand is the mentality REQUIRED by soldiers who are in the middle of combat.

For them to "enjoy" it is highly unlikely. It's a mechanism their brains have learned inorder for them to not go stark raving mad. There is a physchology at work for Soldiers in combat, we (civilians)will never understand.

For these soldiers to go into battle (whether you agree with the circumstances or not) and fight they can not think of the "enemy" as anything but the "enemy" If it were different,then when these soldiers get home, they'll be in such mental state/duress as to cause us ALL problems (no matter where in the world you live)

k, that's my 2cents, my humble opinion. Flame on
 

Twila

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Mar 26, 2003
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One thing that is hard for us to understand is the mentality REQUIRED by soldiers who are in the middle of combat.

For them to "enjoy" it is highly unlikely. It's a mechanism their brains have learned inorder for them to not go stark raving mad. There is a physchology at work for Soldiers in combat, we (civilians)will never understand.

For these soldiers to go into battle (whether you agree with the circumstances or not) and fight they can not think of the "enemy" as anything but the "enemy" If it were different,then when these soldiers get home, they'll be in such mental state/duress as to cause us ALL problems (no matter where in the world you live)

k, that's my 2cents, my humble opinion. Flame on
 

Twila

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Mar 26, 2003
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One thing that is hard for us to understand is the mentality REQUIRED by soldiers who are in the middle of combat.

For them to "enjoy" it is highly unlikely. It's a mechanism their brains have learned inorder for them to not go stark raving mad. There is a physchology at work for Soldiers in combat, we (civilians)will never understand.

For these soldiers to go into battle (whether you agree with the circumstances or not) and fight they can not think of the "enemy" as anything but the "enemy" If it were different,then when these soldiers get home, they'll be in such mental state/duress as to cause us ALL problems (no matter where in the world you live)

k, that's my 2cents, my humble opinion. Flame on
 

Shmad

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Mar 24, 2002
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Hello everyone. :)

Well this really doesn't surprise me and as for not having an insight into a soldiers mentallity well we can just use my good friend as a reference point. He lives in FortWorth, TX and recently returned from Iraq. He says he is having difficulties controlling the urge to kill as they were under attack most of the time and it is second nature now without thinking.

I don't think they enjoy killing, well a small minority probably do, but for the most part its a defensive mechanism. You shoot or you die. It's as simple as that. Most soldiers have a very hard time going from such a mental train of thought for so long to transitioning back into society.

Do they like to kill? No. Do they want to kill? Kinda.. defensive mechanism.
 

Shmad

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Hello everyone. :)

Well this really doesn't surprise me and as for not having an insight into a soldiers mentallity well we can just use my good friend as a reference point. He lives in FortWorth, TX and recently returned from Iraq. He says he is having difficulties controlling the urge to kill as they were under attack most of the time and it is second nature now without thinking.

I don't think they enjoy killing, well a small minority probably do, but for the most part its a defensive mechanism. You shoot or you die. It's as simple as that. Most soldiers have a very hard time going from such a mental train of thought for so long to transitioning back into society.

Do they like to kill? No. Do they want to kill? Kinda.. defensive mechanism.
 

Shmad

Electoral Member
Mar 24, 2002
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Cache Creek, BC
www.justrant.com
Hello everyone. :)

Well this really doesn't surprise me and as for not having an insight into a soldiers mentallity well we can just use my good friend as a reference point. He lives in FortWorth, TX and recently returned from Iraq. He says he is having difficulties controlling the urge to kill as they were under attack most of the time and it is second nature now without thinking.

I don't think they enjoy killing, well a small minority probably do, but for the most part its a defensive mechanism. You shoot or you die. It's as simple as that. Most soldiers have a very hard time going from such a mental train of thought for so long to transitioning back into society.

Do they like to kill? No. Do they want to kill? Kinda.. defensive mechanism.
 

Jay

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Jan 7, 2005
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Re: RE: It's fun to shoot some people: US General

Twila said:
One thing that is hard for us to understand is the mentality REQUIRED by soldiers who are in the middle of combat.

For them to "enjoy" it is highly unlikely. It's a mechanism their brains have learned inorder for them to not go stark raving mad. There is a physchology at work for Soldiers in combat, we (civilians)will never understand.

For these soldiers to go into battle (whether you agree with the circumstances or not) and fight they can not think of the "enemy" as anything but the "enemy" If it were different,then when these soldiers get home, they'll be in such mental state/duress as to cause us ALL problems (no matter where in the world you live)

k, that's my 2cents, my humble opinion. Flame on


I was going to post something similar Twila. I doubt anyone one around here (other than me) even owns a gun.
I certainly hope we wouldn't have to depend on these types to defend our country. I think most around here have problems killing flies let alone try to understand the soldier's mind, or why he/she does what they do.

My $0.02
 

Jay

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Jan 7, 2005
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Re: RE: It's fun to shoot some people: US General

Twila said:
One thing that is hard for us to understand is the mentality REQUIRED by soldiers who are in the middle of combat.

For them to "enjoy" it is highly unlikely. It's a mechanism their brains have learned inorder for them to not go stark raving mad. There is a physchology at work for Soldiers in combat, we (civilians)will never understand.

For these soldiers to go into battle (whether you agree with the circumstances or not) and fight they can not think of the "enemy" as anything but the "enemy" If it were different,then when these soldiers get home, they'll be in such mental state/duress as to cause us ALL problems (no matter where in the world you live)

k, that's my 2cents, my humble opinion. Flame on


I was going to post something similar Twila. I doubt anyone one around here (other than me) even owns a gun.
I certainly hope we wouldn't have to depend on these types to defend our country. I think most around here have problems killing flies let alone try to understand the soldier's mind, or why he/she does what they do.

My $0.02
 

Jay

Executive Branch Member
Jan 7, 2005
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Re: RE: It's fun to shoot some people: US General

Twila said:
One thing that is hard for us to understand is the mentality REQUIRED by soldiers who are in the middle of combat.

For them to "enjoy" it is highly unlikely. It's a mechanism their brains have learned inorder for them to not go stark raving mad. There is a physchology at work for Soldiers in combat, we (civilians)will never understand.

For these soldiers to go into battle (whether you agree with the circumstances or not) and fight they can not think of the "enemy" as anything but the "enemy" If it were different,then when these soldiers get home, they'll be in such mental state/duress as to cause us ALL problems (no matter where in the world you live)

k, that's my 2cents, my humble opinion. Flame on


I was going to post something similar Twila. I doubt anyone one around here (other than me) even owns a gun.
I certainly hope we wouldn't have to depend on these types to defend our country. I think most around here have problems killing flies let alone try to understand the soldier's mind, or why he/she does what they do.

My $0.02
 

Twila

Nanah Potato
Mar 26, 2003
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RE: It's fun to shoot som

I think most around here have problems killing flies let alone try to understand the soldier's mind, or why he/she does what they do.

I have a problem killing flies. Killing spiders. Killing anything period. But I don't think it prevents me from understanding what might cause others to kill. Or trying to understand.
 

Twila

Nanah Potato
Mar 26, 2003
14,698
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RE: It's fun to shoot som

I think most around here have problems killing flies let alone try to understand the soldier's mind, or why he/she does what they do.

I have a problem killing flies. Killing spiders. Killing anything period. But I don't think it prevents me from understanding what might cause others to kill. Or trying to understand.
 

Twila

Nanah Potato
Mar 26, 2003
14,698
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RE: It's fun to shoot som

I think most around here have problems killing flies let alone try to understand the soldier's mind, or why he/she does what they do.

I have a problem killing flies. Killing spiders. Killing anything period. But I don't think it prevents me from understanding what might cause others to kill. Or trying to understand.
 

Machjo

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Before we point fingures south of the border so quickly.

I used to be in infantry training in the Canadian army(dad pushed me into it to some degree), and you should have met some of the recruits and others on base! One man's dream was to join the Freemen some day so he could train them (I'm not kidding!) another had a tattoo of a neo-azi flag with the word 'skinhead' tattood on his neck and and also on his nuckles. And on his other arm was a tattoo of a british faschist with a Union Jack. And the names to describe people? Wow, 'long haired greacy sivvy' was among the more polite ones. The rest were racist slurs for every race immaginable. And then another one being a collector of nazi-era paraphernalia. OK, he could argue it's just for historical interest, but in such an environment, it's only natural that I'd have my doubts. Oh, sorry, I forgot about the Jews. 'Jew' was also a term of offence, immagine that! And none of these guys had ever seen combat yet! Oh, yes, and then we had the chant one day with the instructer yelling out to us as we were jogging, 'What's the spirit of the bayonet?' To which we'd all answer 'Kill! Kill! Kill!. And that's your blue berrets for you, being sent across the world to keep the peace! But man, when we were in civvy land, they were all so prim and proper, watched their vocabulary so well (it took me over a month out of the military to clean up my language!), covered their tattoos so beautifully, and it was just the perfect PR scene, so PC and all it would make you feel all fuzzy inside! Not to mention the promiscuity alcohol consumption of these men, also pushed by peer pressure, very group orieted bunch to say the least . Wow, don't let your daughter get near them!

So while I can praise Canada on many fronts, this is certainly ot one of them. Sorry to break this one to you , folks.