Israeli Untouched War Crime Qana 1996

[Colpy]

If any other country did what Israel is doing, it would be called by it's other name.....genocide.

Once again, let me point out some facts...........

After the 1948 war, 170,000 Arabs remained in Israel. There are now 1.3 MILLION Arabs living in Israel........completely at the mercy of the Israeli gov't.

In 1948, 711,000 Arabs fled Israel into Arab nations, the West Bank and Gaza. There are now 2.5 MILLION of them living in Gaza and the West Bank, easy targets for the Israelis.

Israel fought in Lebanon for weeks, firing tens of thousands of shells, dropping hundreds of bombs, and invading with thousands of soldiers..........the Lebanese death toll? Less than 1800.

I guess the Israelis, as I said before, ain't real good at this genocide thingy, are they?

Either that, or accusations of "genocide" are baseless, simply the rhetoric used by Islamofascists to try and influence the gullible to undercut support for our ally, Israel.

Oh yeah......I should point out that one of the first nations to take in Bosnian Muslim refugees subjected to REAL genocide was.............Israel.

 

[QuestionEverything]

QE said.

(before Hezbollah handed their asses back to them).

Well, you seem to be going down fast and still have not actually disproven Colpy and my sources, all you do is say they are biased. Colpy and I can prove your sources faults and have.

Arguing this with you QE and goober is like arguing quatum mechanics with a 2 year old. You have not got he proofg or skills to argue it, but damned if you got the notion you do.

It's cute but futile.

Just keep telling yourself that the proof ofered by Colpy and myself is junk. Colpy and I have a list of nations on our side. You, a list or criminal organizations. Have you ever heard the saying, guilt by association?

Once again, I thank the GS, and hope that you and goober only have this avenue to propogate your insiduous loathing and anti-semetic garbage.

You and goober are the appitamy of cowrdly bigots.

CANbeer, hate-filled racists such as yourself, will never win the day in any honest debate. Your pathetic, juvenile tactics of name-calling, labelling, and then crying to moderators, shows that you are devoid and bereft of any and all logic-based argument or fact in this thread, and likely all others you infest.

You come across as a shrill guttersnipe, wallowing in the intellectual filth you secrete in here and try to pass off as supported fact, all the while relatively certain that you and your ilk have become the laughingstock of not just the truth tellers, but your fellow supporters of war crimes and genocide.

You quote some pro-Israeli propaganda shill, and scream it's true. Along comes Colpy, with his knickers in a knot, screaming yeah, it's true......then the both of you do some sort of mutually delusional spouting of...of....well, we're not quite sure how to describe what you two yap on about, except that it is anything but fact.

The only facts in here that are totally unbiased, and proven by writing from the source, is you and Colpy both professing the wonder and awe, and rightousness, of Israel's slaught of unarmed women, children, and even infants, and one of you even saying you wished more had been killed.

You support genocide. You support war crimes. You advocate against those that wish to see all killing stopped. You both are morally bankrupt, if your writings in here are a true indication of you true, selective hate for people based on their colour, religion, or country of origin.

I am thankful that this forum is here, so that your hatred and racism can be exposed, and people can see the type of evil that lurks, even in Canadian citizens. I just sincerely hope that neither Colpy or CDNBeer ever gets access to a weapon, and certainly never, ever near an Arab person.

Despicable, cowardly racists, both of you.

 

[QuestionEverything]

Bush said he was inspired by the Christian God to invade Iraq. 655,000 Iraqis killed because of Christianity. Doesn't sound like peace loving to me.

I believe that, from what I have read in here in Colpy's and CDNBear's own words, they likely believe that 665,000 dead Iraqis is merely a good start.

 

[Colpy]

CANbeer, hate-filled racists such as yourself, will never win the day in any honest debate. Your pathetic, juvenile tactics of name-calling, labelling, and then crying to moderators, shows that you are devoid and bereft of any and all logic-based argument or fact in this thread, and likely all others you infest.

You come across as a shrill guttersnipe, wallowing in the intellectual filth you secrete in here and try to pass off as supported fact, all the while relatively certain that you and your ilk have become the laughingstock of not just the truth tellers, but your fellow supporters of war crimes and genocide.

You quote some pro-Israeli propaganda shill, and scream it's true. Along comes Colpy, with his knickers in a knot, screaming yeah, it's true......then the both of you do some sort of mutually delusional spouting of...of....well, we're not quite sure how to describe what you two yap on about, except that it is anything but fact.

The only facts in here that are totally unbiased, and proven by writing from the source, is you and Colpy both professing the wonder and awe, and rightousness, of Israel's slaught of unarmed women, children, and even infants, and one of you even saying you wished more had been killed.

You support genocide. You support war crimes. You advocate against those that wish to see all killing stopped. You both are morally bankrupt, if your writings in here are a true indication of you true, selective hate for people based on their colour, religion, or country of origin.

I am thankful that this forum is here, so that your hatred and racism can be exposed, and people can see the type of evil that lurks, even in Canadian citizens. I just sincerely hope that neither Colpy or CDNBeer ever gets access to a weapon, and certainly never, ever near an Arab person.

Despicable, cowardly racists, both of you.

First of all, I am not a racist.

Secondly, my JOB is teaching armed self-defense. I am always armed at work, and got a whack'o weapons at home too!

Don't pee yourself now.

Thirdly, It would be better if you included SOME kind of argument in with your posts.......

 

[Colpy]

I believe that, from what I have read in here in Colpy's and CDNBear's own words, they likely believe that 665,000 dead Iraqis is merely a good start.

My my, you're on a roll tonight.............

How about some logical, coherent posts with a POLITICAL opinion, just so we can argue?

Just answer my genocide post above...........

 

[QuestionEverything]

The wife and I were just discussing how the Hezollah fires rockets into Israel and then runs from the position. Then generaly within 5 minutes, the IDF retaliates against that position, indiscriminantly, usually ending with the sad loss of life amongst the civilian population.

She posed this question to me. "If they see these people firing rockets into Israel, why do they hang around after, if they know Israel is going to retaliate?"

I explained to her that there are reports of the Hezbollah keeping people in areas they have fired from, just to have more dead on the evening news.

She then asked me, "Really?"

So I showed her the proof from a credited site, complete with links to the originating source, that made the original claim. I then told her, "But don't let that fool ya, if you believe the likes of some of the people at this site, you'ld believe that these people voluntarily hung around knowing that the IDF would retaliate in around 5 minutes, with indiscriminant fire."

"No way, no one is going to hang around some place they know the IDF is going to bomb, no one sane anyways. These people don't actually belive that do they?" She then asked.

"Yes dear they do." I answered.

She then told me to tell those that believe that, sane people with the ability to run and the knowledge that hell is about to break loose, actually sit and wait to be killed. "Here's your sign!"

rotflmffao.

Even though you claim to read everything, and understand it (damn, you ARE funny after all), You conveniently neglect to mention:

"Amnesty International's findings point to an Israeli policy of deliberate destruction of Lebanese civilian infrastructure, which included war crimes, during the recent conflict."
http://web.amnesty.org/pages/lbn-230806-feature-eng

Aw, shoot, I'm sorry. Amnesty International is not one of your approved Israeli shill organizations, so it's investigations cannot be taken as fact. Damn, and I thought I had you with that. Well, shame on me.


And of course you didn't miss this either:

"The Israeli government claims that it targets only Hezbollah, and that fighters from the group are using civilians as human shields, thereby placing them at risk. Human Rights Watch found no cases in which Hezbollah deliberately used civilians as shields to protect them from retaliatory IDF attack."

or this:

" However, those cases do not justify the IDF’s extensive use of indiscriminate force which has cost so many civilian lives. In none of the cases of civilian deaths documented in this report is there evidence to suggest that Hezbollah forces or weapons were in or near the area that the IDF targeted during or just prior to the attack."

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2006/lebanon0806/2.htm#_Toc142299220

After all, it's only from Human Rights Watch....clearly an organization whose goals you wish to have no part of whatsoever.

CDNBear & Colpy.....perhaps it's time for you 2 people, clearly devoid of any human compassion for any Arab person, to crawl back under the rocks from whence you emerged.

Your hypocrisy is clearly exposed. We all know your game.

 

[QuestionEverything]

Being the cynic I am I wonder how many of these stories are fictional. They're probably the exception, not the norm. The war machine has been creating monsters out of everybody. Like 'every mother cries for joy at the birth of a child as it is one more suicide bomber'. Most of it is nonsense, but good for propoganda. What would we do without evil-doers?

Excellent question. I think we need to examine this entire "terrorist" thing with soem serious, critical thought. It appears to be 1984 to a tee for many. Are the evil-doers real? Are those that are labelled evil-doers, the real evil-doers?

Or is it merely for the fascists to profit from it all?

 

[Colpy]

Geez, QE, TAKE A VALIUM!!!!!!

Relax, it makes you a little more coherent.

I actually like Amnesty International, I think they are a valuable organization.............but you shouldn't underestimate the ability of the organizations of Hamas and Hezbollah to dupe naive inspectors shocked at the carnage in Lebanon to accept their version of events.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060730-093558-9976r.htm

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23785

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html (although the photos are missing, the text is worth it)

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/....html?id=439dbdcc-167c-423c-9d52-b14a90605440

And while we're at it...... http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=N2UxZjI3MTRhNGM5YTc1MDkyM2NkZmVhZjdiYzUzODU=

 

[Colpy]

Even though you claim to read everything, and understand it (damn, you ARE funny after all), You conveniently neglect to mention:

"Amnesty International's findings point to an Israeli policy of deliberate destruction of Lebanese civilian infrastructure, which included war crimes, during the recent conflict."
http://web.amnesty.org/pages/lbn-230806-feature-eng

Aw, shoot, I'm sorry. Amnesty International is not one of your approved Israeli shill organizations, so it's investigations cannot be taken as fact. Damn, and I thought I had you with that. Well, shame on me.


And of course you didn't miss this either:

"The Israeli government claims that it targets only Hezbollah, and that fighters from the group are using civilians as human shields, thereby placing them at risk. Human Rights Watch found no cases in which Hezbollah deliberately used civilians as shields to protect them from retaliatory IDF attack."

or this:

" However, those cases do not justify the IDF’s extensive use of indiscriminate force which has cost so many civilian lives. In none of the cases of civilian deaths documented in this report is there evidence to suggest that Hezbollah forces or weapons were in or near the area that the IDF targeted during or just prior to the attack."

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2006/lebanon0806/2.htm#_Toc142299220

After all, it's only from Human Rights Watch....clearly an organization whose goals you wish to have no part of whatsoever.

CDNBear & Colpy.....perhaps it's time for you 2 people, clearly devoid of any human compassion for any Arab person, to crawl back under the rocks from whence you emerged.

Your hypocrisy is clearly exposed. We all know your game.

From the link in QE's post above:

Hezbollah occasionally did store weapons in or near civilian homes and fighters placed rocket launchers within populated areas or near U.N. observers, which are serious violations of the laws of war because they violate the duty to take all feasible precautions to avoid civilian casualties.

Conveniently chose to miss that, didn't you?

Remember, as well, that these guys are in their after the fact, looking for MOBILE rocket systems, and interviewing Muslims that have to live with Hezbollah.............and read on about HRW investigative methods.......

Since the start of hostilities, Human Rights Watch has interviewed victims and witnesses of attacks in one-on-one settings, conducted on-site inspections (when security allowed), and collected information from hospitals, humanitarian groups, and government agencies. Human Rights Watch also conducted research in Israel, inspecting the IDF’s use of weapons and discussing the conduct of forces with IDF officials. The research was extensive, but given the ongoing war and the scope of the bombings, Human Rights Watch does not claim that the findings are comprehensive; further investigation is required to document the war’s complete impact on civilians and to assess the full scope of the IDF’s compliance with and disregard for international humanitarian law.

And, as well, another part of the report you ignored:

While not the focus of this report, Human Rights Watch has separately and simultaneously documented violations of international humanitarian law by Hezbollah, including a pattern of attacks that amount to war crimes. Between July 12, when Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers and killed eight, and July 27, the group launched a reported 1,300 rockets into predominantly civilian areas in Israel, killing 18 civilians and wounding more than 300. Without guidance systems for accurate targeting, the rockets are inherently indiscriminate when directed toward civilian areas, especially cities, and thus are serious violations of the requirement of international humanitarian law that attackers distinguish at all times between combatants and civilians. Some of these rockets, Human Rights Watch found, are packed with thousands of metal ball-bearings, which spray more than 100 meters from the blast and compound the harm to civilians.

And WHO is a SHILL?!!!!!!!

 

[CDNBear]

Being the cynic I am I wonder how many of these stories are fictional. They're probably the exception, not the norm. The war machine has been creating monsters out of everybody. Like 'every mother cries for joy at the birth of a child as it is one more suicide bomber'. Most of it is nonsense, but good for propoganda. What would we do without evil-doers?

Live long boring lives with nothing to bitch about, but not catching fish. Something I would gladly trade for an end to the perpetual crap that endlessly flows from greedy and power hungry world leaders.

 

[CDNBear]

From the link in QE's post above:



Conveniently chose to miss that, didn't you?

Remember, as well, that these guys are in their after the fact, looking for MOBILE rocket systems, and interviewing Muslims that have to live with Hezbollah.............and read on about HRW investigative methods.......



And, as well, another part of the report you ignored:




And WHO is a SHILL?!!!!!!!

I posted that very same link to gopher weeks ago and it was dismissed as usual. Now he wants criminal findings from courts.

 

[CDNBear]

well QE, as you so kindly pointed out I went crying to the mods. Well yes I did, I have always been a firm believer in waging war as your enemy would.

You continuously call me a bigot, but I do not deny that the IDF has committed war crimes. There is death and destruction on both sides of the line as well as guilt. The latter is something you continuously deny. That is what actually makes you the bigot. I'm no racist, you show that you are by you denial of Hezbollah's position and continued acts against the people of Israel. You justify their violence. I once justified the IDF's, I don't anymore, because of my own research. But I can understand why they would show so much disregard for Palestinian and Lebonese life, but I can not condone indiscriminant weapons or use of human shields. I won't deny the criminal acts of the IDF, but you will deny the criminal acts of the Hezbollah, that really says a lot about your character.

I served two tours in the CDN Army, pulling two Peace Keeping tours. One of which was Golan Hieghts. I carried a weapon. and despitethe fact that "I'm a stark raving mad racist". I managed to not indescriminantly wack any Lebonese, Syrian or Jordanian people as you would have people believe. I witnessed hatred in its purest forms. You really have nothing you can say that will make me beleive that the Hezbollah wants peace, nor the Syrian masters of the Hezbollah.

Your lop sided view is based on your bias and your interpretaion of facts. Mine is based on my interpretaion of my personal experiences and how I disseminate facts and I condemn both sides for their wrong doing. Nothing more, nothing less.

You can continue to hate until you're old and grey, I have no hate for any one. I have hate for the death toll, and its supporters, like you.

 

[CDNBear]

QE, I just noticed this little post I made a while back. It is my most outrageously racist post ever.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/i...xt-islamophobic-hate-thread-2.html#post736253

post #23

Quote...
Better yet, why don't you start a thread and we can discuss the real Islam, fact and point. I agree in some part with you, that a lot of fears and hate, is born of ignorance or lack of knowledge, but if it ofends your sensiblities so, help promote change.

Or from post #25
I think I understand your point. To some extent I agree. I was not trying to get anyone to convert to Islam and in fact I believe that the Islamofascists need to be reigned in. Hatred clouds judgement and weakens your skills. Knowledge is strength and to know ones enemy is to respect him, not tolerate him. But in all things, you have the choice to hate or not hate, but to hate for the wrong reason is shear ignorance.

After 9/11, I wanted to carry Afghan children on a bayonet down Younge St. Did the act of 9/11 warrant the extermination of the religion and subsequently the muslim peoples? No.

In the end you can and should chose your own path, but that path should be cut with the sword of knowledge, not blind hate. He who under estimates his enemies, over estimates himself.

I can get more if you'ld like.

 

[Sassylassie]

Wow QE is one angry person, Bear you have been very fair in your post the yin and yang regarding the issues of the ME. I wish I could be as fair as you are, but I tend to lean towards supporting Israel because they don't use their children and women as weapons. For me it's about the suffering of the innocent victims both Palestinians and Israelies.

 

[CDNBear]

Thanx Sass.

 

[gopher]

QE is angry?

Heck, I didn't see him confessing to be a Cathophobe or of the 'elk' that openly hates Muslims.