Islamofascists' rally at ground zero

[Freethinker]

Dude, unless you want to see more planes slaming into American buildings perhaps you should reconsider peoples feelings.

Lovely sentiment. Respect our so tender feelings or we will beat burn and kill you...

 

[Said1]

Dude, unless you want to see more planes slaming into American buildings perhaps you should reconsider peoples feelings.

Lovely sentiment. Respect our so tender feelings or we will beat burn and kill you...

Don't forget behead a loved one on Al Jizzzzzzera.

 

[cortez]

They are Islamists and fascists. Is that the problem with this topic or the fact they had the nerve to go to ground zero and advocate the destruction of America? Political correctness will be the death of us one day.

im confused by this demonstration ,isnt it illegal to publicly advocate terrorism

or like those cartoons is this just an example of freedom of speech , however obnoxious

 

[I think not]

They are Islamists and fascists. Is that the problem with this topic or the fact they had the nerve to go to ground zero and advocate the destruction of America? Political correctness will be the death of us one day.

im confused by this demonstration ,isnt it illegal to publicly advocate terrorism

or like those cartoons is this just an example of freedom of speech , however obnoxious

Speech that incites anything isn't against the law. It is free speech, you are correct. As it is my right to call them Islmao-Fascists in the way Said1 mentioned.

And as Said1 said, it isn't ALL muslims, but rather those at the rally.

 

[cortez]

They are Islamists and fascists. Is that the problem with this topic or the fact they had the nerve to go to ground zero and advocate the destruction of America? Political correctness will be the death of us one day.

im confused by this demonstration ,isnt it illegal to publicly advocate terrorism

or like those cartoons is this just an example of freedom of speech , however obnoxious

Speech that incites anything isn't against the law. It is free speech, you are correct. As it is my right to call them Islmao-Fascists in the way Said1 mentioned.

And as Said1 said, it isn't ALL muslims, but rather those at the rally.

but im suggesting that it should be illegal to try and incite violence
calling someone an islamofascist isnt suggesting violence
but suggesting the destruction of a country is another matter

how about calling them fascists and leaving it at that rather than try and sully an entire religion- maybe they are just examples of lousy people- cleverly disguised as islamics. if theyd been born into our culture they might have become memebers of the klan for example

and then there is the matter of saying democrasy but performing hyperviolence
the dictators of the nonwestern world dont seem have got the hang of it

unfortunately this is the way its done in the west
you say peace and democrasy
while you perform hyperviolence- history of the west
not
you say hyperviolence
but perform relatively small acts of violence
( not belittling 9 11 but its still small compared with
massive invasion of another country)

just some food for thought
someone with the power has to stop this viscious cycle
before its spirals into ww3
it has to be the west
we must use and exercise restraint and intelligence, skill in diplomacy and caution not be sucked into the slime hole of
vengeance and murder that a small number of people of islamic descent , and nonislamic (some of us) have fallen into

and im NOT suggesting you personanly have slipped into that
i am sincerely trying to build bridges

 

[I think not]

Cortez

I agree with everything you say, but we need to excercise more than diplomacy and patience on OUR turf. WE cannot go into their homelands and start parading around calling them Islamo-Fascists, now can we? If anyone did, they will be on 6 o'clock internet beheading show.

I don't see anyone bashing their f*ckin brains in for rallying on the corpses of Americans. Like I said, free speech is free speech, and I am thrilled they have the right to voice their extremist opinions, keeps the rest of us in tune to what's going on.

Bowing down isn't a sign of tolerance and understanding, it is the cornerstone and beginnings of oppression. They have fascist views while invoking Islam, I prefer the hyphenated version.

 

[cortez]

Cortez

I agree with everything you say, but we need to excercise more than diplomacy and patience on OUR turf. WE cannot go into their homelands and start parading around calling them Islamo-Fascists, now can we? If anyone did, they will be on 6 o'clock internet beheading show.

I don't see anyone bashing their f*ckin brains in for rallying on the corpses of Americans. Like I said, free speech is free speech, and I am thrilled they have the right to voice their extremist opinions, keeps the rest of us in tune to what's going on.

Bowing down isn't a sign of tolerance and understanding, it is the cornerstone and beginnings of oppression. They have fascist views while invoking Islam, I prefer the hyphenated version.

fair enough
agree partilly -on your turf its simple
apply the law,
the law all reasonable people believe
thou shall not kill
lok em up like anyone else who commits murder and if you are planning to kill someone for islam or any other reason you go to jail too
and if you are advocating murder
then lets see how serious you are
if your not insane or maybe just angry
if your serious
you go to jail

you almost depoliticise it
they wanna tell you they are fighting some kind of cosmic holy war- dont even let them have the satisfaction of having you recognise that-

as far as invading iraq as a response
im opposed on a matter of priciple
BUT i appreciate the opposing point of view
apart from that however i just dont think it can WORK
the US or anyone else is physically incapable of building a democrasy in the middle east
superpower status is not enough
if it were iraq would be free and democratic and possibly pro west
or on the way to it
instead of on the brink of civil war

this is i think the reality we must accept
freedom and democrasy do not exist in many parts of the world
that is ugly and unfair and makes for a crappy life for a lot of people but
we really do not have the military or diplomatic power to solve that problem at the moment
we do have the power however to wreek havoc under the delusion of having such power
what is totally within our power is to maintain the freedom and democrasy we already have here by simply applying the rule of law

to call them islamofacists is thinking about it correct
afterall ive said that they kinda remind me of the klan and they re fascist arent they

 

[I think not]

Cortez

Again I agree, we o apply the law on our home turf, we don't beat the crap out of them. Like I said, as mad as it makes me, it i stheir right to say whatever they wish, until that speech becomes action, there is nothing we can do about it.

Also, keep in mind that most people when they hear news like this, they are just venting, I hardly think anyone really bumps into a muslim on the street and goes off on him. To do so, would be cruel and inhumane. I have plenty of muslims living all around me, I have no beef with these people, they always have a smile on their face like all my neighbors do.

BUT, when fascists invoke Islam to further their cause, I don't see a problem with using Islamo-fascists, if anything it can also be seen in a positive way, it just separates the bad apples from the good ones.

I have criticized christians as much as I have muslims, I have little respect for christians with a bible in one hand and a gun in the other, it sort of turns me off when they are supposed to "love the enemy".

Furthermore, I do NOT blame the people in the middle east, I have met plenty right here in New York, they are no different to me than any other American. They fled, yes fled, their oppressive governments to seek freedom to do what they wish and I would NEVER lump these people into the same catgegory as fascists, even if some of them hold such views, to do so would be incredibly narrow-minded.

However, once again, if they want to march and rally for the destruction of America, it is my right to protect my way of life, and my way of life is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness which some obviously want to obstruct. And we should do whatever is necessary to preserve it.

 

[the caracal kid]

"to call them islamofacists is thinking about it correct"

the only difference between the sides in their methods, not their goals.

so then we also have the christofascists, the amerifascists, .....

 

[jimmoyer]

Ah the voyeur God always equates all sides as morally equal, morally reprehensible, morally hypocritical, but nevertheless insists on all as equal and the same.

 

[the caracal kid]

not the same, for the groups take different approaches and use different justifications for achieving the same desires.

Differences in some details, but that is all.

Morals have nothing to do with it.

 

[jimmoyer]

When morals have nothing to do with it, that is an
equality of sorts in and of itself.

 

[cortez]

Re: RE: Islamofascists' rally at ground zero

"to call them islamofacists is thinking about it correct"

the only difference between the sides in their methods, not their goals.

so then we also have the christofascists, the amerifascists, .....

yeah sort of- i might have to take back what i said
im confused - must be my mixed heritage
would it be polite to call members of the hyperright in canada, canucko fascists

0r if one is a hypenated canadian a say
a latvo-canucko-fascist
or a franco-canucko-fascist
or an anglo-canucko-fascist

and if say those people in he photo actually have american citizenship islamo-americanofascist
as opposed to islamo-iranofascist
or islamo-sunnifascist
or islamo-suffipakistanofascist
or islamo-suffipakistanocanuckofascist

this really is all semantics
and the extremists have hijacked our attention

we really have to form bonds of friendship and alliance between the

canuckohumanists and the americanohumanists and the islamohumanists and the christianohumanists

but what is that can unite these positive forces in the world together under one banner-
to fight the hypenated fascists wherever they are

hint;

it might have something to do with goats

 

[jimmoyer]

latvo-canuck 'O'fascist
franco-canuck'O'fascist
anglo-canuck'O'fascist

islam'O-americanofascist
islam O'iranofascist
islam O'sunnifascist
or islamO'-suffipakistanofascist
or islamO'-suffipakistanocanuckofascist

canuckohumanists
americanohumanists
islamohumanists
christianohumanists

WHAT ARE YOU O'CORTEZ ?

ARE YOU IRISH ?

LIKE AN O'REILLY ?

OR LIKE A LAT O'COMEDIAN ?


um

okay, I bet you're not O'Irish.

 

[cortez]

Cortez
However, once again, if they want to march and rally for the destruction of America, it is my right to protect my way of life, and my way of life is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness which some obviously want to obstruct. And we should do whatever is necessary to preserve it.

agreed except for the term- whatever is necessary-
that implies possible extreme measures that would corrupt the rule of law
the systems that will protect you are already in place
a strong fair intelligent judicial-police system

it is unlikely that islam will destroy americans way of life
only america can do that
ie do anything to protect implies that the US for example might launch a massive war agianst terror that cannot succeed except in completely economically bankrupting itself and taking the whole western economy down with it

i really and sincerely think that you are all safer than you think
dont let these bigots screw you up with their dominate america crap

 

[aeon]

Shocking daring Islamofascists' rally at... ground zero

:angryfire:

Anti-UAC Protesters at Ground Zero protesting the United American Committee's Rally Against Islamofascism on February 1. Keep in mind this is at GROUND ZERO where 3,000 Americans were murdered by Islamic extremists.

Link

Strange that you use a web site that cost 10$ to put up, ohh i see, when it fit your view it is ok, right??

 

[jimmoyer]

That picture depicts islamic signs of conquest and pride
at ground zero. Are you saying you don't like that
picture ? Of course you aren't saying that.

 

[cortez]

Re: RE: Islamofascists' rally at ground zero

WHAT ARE YOU O'CORTEZ ?

ARE YOU IRISH ?

LIKE AN O'REILLY ?

OR LIKE A LAT O'COMEDIAN ?


um

okay, I bet you're not O'Irish.[/quote]

what do these groups have in common

nazis
fascists
(any word)-o-fascist
hyperreform christians
people who are fascists but claim to be communist ie stalin

they do not believe in the goat god
AND
they have an absent of poorly developed sense of humour


yes
one minute its gloom and doom with me then
its a belly laugh

i dont understand it
i know it bugs other people
no disrespect intended
i cant help it
its the way my brain is formed

very clever of you to have picked out the recurring
-O- pattern in my diatribe
and to link it to
irishness

an irish-canucko-humanist friend of mine once said that there are only 2 types of people in the world
the irish
and those who wish they were

i must be the latter

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Islamofascists' rally at ground zero

That picture depicts islamic signs of conquest and pride
at ground zero. Are you saying you don't like that
picture ? Of course you aren't saying that.

First of all, there is nothing in that picture that depict islamic sign of conquest and pride at ground zero, it is you who decided to interprete it like that, it says, america states terrorism, which could means they are against any form of terrorism, it says, islam will dominate, but what will they dominate?? that muslim will gain respect because of americans doing their false flag operation?? or they will dominate the world religious in term of people joining the religion??

You just cant say anything at all.

 

[Freethinker]

Re: RE: Islamofascists' rally at ground zero

First of all, there is nothing in that picture that depict islamic sign of conquest and pride at ground zero,

A sign that reads Islam will dominate with a picture of the White house, with someone elses flag on top, sure looks like a conquest symbol to me.