Islamists threaten bless us or die

Sassylassie

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Logic 7 said:
You guys always come up with non-sense thread about islamist doing this , doing that,terrrorist who could kill us all with nuclear weapons etcc , or whatever you are afraid of , why don't you guys come up with ,since the creation of canada and usa, how many peoples did you guys kill for the same reasons, israel in palestine or the coalitions of the willing are killing everyday in middle east??


then probably you would start understanding why, western democracy are always at war, from many peoples point of view around the world, is because it is time to take responsabilities and grow up, and look what probleme you have inside your policy.
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I'd love to respond to you Logic but you make absolutely no sense. My policy? what policy, car, life, dental?

Regarding terrorist, how many peoples did I kill well none but my cooking has been known to disable a few people.

Note to Andem, we need a Logic translator.
 
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northstar

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The really cool facts of why Turkey can't be part of the European Union...torture, murder, imprisionment of those who have the courage to look at the Quran and recognize that Mo had it wrong...
This was part of why the Pope visited the Christians that suffer discrimination, robbery, destruction and imprisionment, oh, and murder...He didn't come to see the Muslims, however, they had to threaten him with violence should he not bless their ways...
and of course he let them know that violence was not acceptable and should not be tolerated by the religious and political leaders...
So, he has helped guide this troubled country and cult, to the civilized ways of the European Union...they have a long, long way to go...

Turkey's bid to join the EU likely will be put on hold
As anti-Western sentiment builds, Europeans have soured on the idea
Tracy Wilkinson,
Los Angeles Times
ANKARA, TURKEY — They're calling it a train crash here, the seemingly inevitable collision between this huge Muslim nation and the Europe it has courted for years.
People gauging Turkey's once-promising program of reforms, aimed at modernizing its democracy and facilitating membership in the European Union, see a troubled landscape: Turkish writers, journalists and even a 93-year-old academic are hauled into court on charges they insulted their country. Military commanders known for staging coups make veiled threats.
Anti-Western nationalism is on the rise, conservative Islam is spreading and public opinion in favor of joining the EU has plummeted to an all-time low.
At the same time, many people in Europe have soured on the prospect of welcoming a poor, officially Muslim country of 70 million people to their 25-nation club.
On Nov. 8, the EU issued its annual progress report. It sharply criticized Turkey as failing to sufficiently improve human rights, freedom of speech, cultural rights for minority Kurds and civilian control over the military.
It seems likely that Turkey's EU bid will be put on hold — not formally suspended but frozen for possibly as long as a year. The danger, diplomats say, is the difficulty in reviving a complex membership drive after such a long hiatus.
The consequences are potentially dire for Washington and the West, not to mention Ankara. A breakdown further could strain relations between the West and the Muslim world, ending for now Turkey's perceived role as bridge between the two civilizations.
It was precisely that status that made a partnership with Turkey so appealing to Western nations.
"We will have turbulence here in Turkey, undoubtedly, but the EU will not go away unscathed," said Soli Ozel, a specialist in international relations at Istanbul's Bilgi University.
After an exhilarating start, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has slowed the pace of reform, in part because of presidential and parliamentary elections next year. Aides say he is reluctant to further provoke secular nationalists, who are at once suspicious of his Islamist leanings and fearful that concessions his administration has made to the EU will erode Turkey's sovereignty.
The EU is most sharply critical of Article 301 of Turkey's penal code, a provision enacted last year and used by a group of ultranationalist lawyers to prosecute dozens of writers and academics deemed to have "denigrated" Turkish national identity or the state. Nobel laureate Orhan Pamuk was among those targeted.
Erdogan last week invited a group of activists to his office and said he would consider revisions to Article 301, which he acknowledged is vague. But diplomats and senior Turkish officials said Erdogan was in fact virtually crippled by his fear of losing political ground.
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step one, control your population so that violence is not a right of Islam.
 
Logic 7

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This is almost to funny to be true coming from a French woman.

How many people have you kind killed in South East Asia, North and South America?

Now you are running your mouth off in another thread defending people who have exhibited the same cruel rights abuses on Native peoples in recent history. Puzzling.
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A french women?? pretty far from the truth, but nice try.
 
Logic 7

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step one, control your population so that violence is not a right of Islam.
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Step 2, control the us goverenment and the whole coalition of the willing so that attacking nation based on lies isnt the first option.
 
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Really weak arguments, having to use history again is a bad move since Islamists are consistant right up to modern days [like today] in their violence, torture, rape and murder...
The Pope might actually help Turkey get it's act together, since it is pretty difficult to pretend that they haven't been unfair and unceasingly cruel to Christians...[l would wrap quotes around it but it isn't cooperating]

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Pope Hardens Tone on Third Day of Turkey Trip

Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: Will a brotherly kiss help reunite the two churches?

Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday put the brakes on his charm offensive in EU-hopeful, Muslim majority Turkey, stressing Europe's "Christian roots" and taking a strong stand on religious freedoms and minority rights.


Flanked by Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew I after mass at the patriarchal Church of St. George, the pontiff complained in a speech that "the process of secularization has weakened the hold of ... (Christian) tradition" in Europe.

"In the face of this reality, we are called, together with all other Christian communities, to renew Europe's awareness of its Christian roots, traditions and values, giving them new vitality," he said.

His statement came just two days after he reportedly told Turkey's Islamist-turned-conservative Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in what was widely seen as a spectacular U-turn, that he supported Turkey's membership in the European Union.

Turkey in the EU, he had said while still Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, would be "a grave error... against the tide of history."

Religious freedom

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift: The pope attended the Divine Liturgy at Istanbul's St. George's church
In a later joint declaration with Bartholomew I, at the risk of once again rubbing up his hosts the wrong way, the pontiff said respect for religious freedom must be a criterion for membership in the EU, which must ensure that its members respect the rights of their religious minorities.

It was near-overt backing for the patriarchate's complaints of restrictions imposed on it by Turkey, including the closure of a theological seminary and the confiscation of a number of properties from Christian foundations.

Another bone of contention is Turkey's refusal to recognize Bartholomew I as the ecumenical, or universal, leader of about 150 million Orthodox faithful around the world.

Turkey repeated on Thursday it has no intention of budging on this issue.

"We see the patriarchate as a Turkish institution and this is how our laws, too, see it," said foreign ministry spokesman Namik Tan. "Other definitions are in no way binding for us. We have proclaimed to the world that we do not recognize the title 'ecumenical.'"
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Unfortunately, despite reason and diplomacy Turkey is still being ruled by Medievil Fantaical Islamists, who don't want to give back the stolen property....
 
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