Is the GDP corporatist propaganda?

[Jay]

Re: RE: Is the GDP corporatist propaganda?

Well considering newspapers are owned by private corporations such as the Irving Corporation in NB and NS, I think articles measuring well-being with the GDP is corporatist propaganda.

And when the Government owned CBC reports the GDP....what do you call that?


The GDP is a measurement, simple.

It would be like suggesting the inch, when mentioned by the free press, is imperialist propaganda.

 

[Toro]

Re: RE: Is the GDP corporatist propaganda?

Toro I never said 10 million was the ideal population for Canada.

According to my ideals, it would be less than 10 million.

I just said that it certainly couldn't be higher than 10 million for everyone to be able to afford their own good arable land to support their family.

This scenario doesn't mean that about 23 million people have to leave now. It could be theoretically achieved through reducing immigration and reducing the birth rate.

If you did not allow any immigration into Canada, and the birth rate dropped to 0, it would take about 60 years to reduce the population to 10 million. Of course, then everyone would be over 60, and in about 40 years, the population would be 0.

 

[quinton]

Economic growth is an illusion of "progress" for dozens of reasons that I could explain in great detail over hundreds of pages with thousands of examples.

My opinion is that per capita, life will be poorer for each Canadian the more people we have.

For the southern part of Ontario alone (a true biodiversity hot spot because of the mild winters and long growing season)... just look at all the species we will lose if we don't stop population, consumption and economic growth:

Look at how many species are of Special Concern:

http://www.rom.on.ca/ontario/risk.php?doc_...gion=5&status=7

Look at how many species are Threatened:

http://www.rom.on.ca/ontario/risk.php?doc_...gion=5&status=4

Look at how many species are Endangered:

http://www.rom.on.ca/ontario/risk.php?doc_...gion=5&status=3

Look at how many species are Extirpated:

http://www.rom.on.ca/ontario/risk.php?doc_...gion=5&status=2

Look at how many species are Extinct:

http://www.rom.on.ca/ontario/risk.php?doc_...gion=5&status=1

And that's only for the southern deciduous forest region.

This doesn't look much like a deciduous forest to me anymore:

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=cha...06,0.862427&t=h

And the growth in the southern region affects the northern regions too.

New natural gas pipelines, mineral and timber exploitations, etc.

For anyone to say we can have growth and prevent further environmental erosion is nonsense.