Is Harper sincere?

[Socrates the Greek]

Here is some food for thought. Just today the Cons announced that they will offer a formal apology to all the Chinese Canadians who had been wrongfully charged the infamous head tax. The catch her is that, (money talks and garbage walk), and I am sure you know what I mean. The manipulation is clear here from the Cons, the formal apology is to set the Asian Canadian voter thinking Neo Con, and the hope Harper is looking at, is that the financial compensation to the Chinese Immigrant Canadians of the early 19th century will be a vote for the full Conservative term. To day the Cons are saying to open with just an apology, and to seal the deal during election he will put out the cash. His 5 election promises did not include the Chinese Immigrant and today he is making the announcement for simple political gain. He is dangling the carrot on the stick to prepare vote enhancement. Is Harper sincere?

 

[I think not]

Is any politician?

 

[Jay]

That’s funny.

I'm going to say yes that’s what he's doing if you will agree that the Liberal's immigration policy is really about getting Liberal votes.

 

[MMMike]

Re: RE: Is Harper sincere?

That’s funny.

I'm going to say yes that’s what he's doing if you will agree that the Liberal's immigration policy is really about getting Liberal votes.

Here here. Of course this is a political ploy to get votes. Most policies are. Like you Jay, I find the Libs to be the worst because they'll pander to the left and the right... a crass political calculation on every issue. :evil:

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Harper's Sincerity

I think not, that is more to the point of the matter, isn't it?

In terms of our immigration policy, Jay, I think that modern Canada (by which I mean the younger generation — no offense to you non-modern Canadians, hehe) is, by way of majority, in favour of a more multi-cultural immigration policy — I don't think the divisions between races are as much an issue with younger people as they are with the "older" generation.

I think that the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest¹ and the Prime Minister of Canada, is being sincere on some issues, and insincere on others. His contention, for example, that he would have the authority to legislate against same-sex marriage without invoking Section 33 of the Constitution Act, 1982 — if he doesn't use that clause, then same-sex marriages would continue to be issued in eight provinces, and one territory. I don't think he's sincere on that front. On economic issues, I think he's being more-or-less sincere (although I think his stance on child care is nothing more than grandstanding).

:!: Revision : (1) Corrected a typing error.

 

[I think not]

Re: Harper's Sincerity

I think not, that is more to the point of the matter, isn't it?

Unfortunately Five, you are correct.

P.S. You didn't correct your typing error 8O (See Wouthwest)

 

[Jay]

Re: Harper's Sincerity

On economic issues, I think he's being more-or-less sincere (although I think his stance on child care is nothing more than grandstanding).

One thing Harper understands is that child care (education) is a provincial (if anything) responsibility. Most Canadians aren't politically suave enough to know these sorts of things and Liberals pander to this. They know the rules they just don't care (neither do the NDP).

What are the conservatives supposed to do in the face of Canadian apathy and still get elected? Harper made the right choice to balance Liberal vote buying and rule breaking.

The Federal government has no jurisdiction in education why don't Liberal understand these very simple ideas? Why do Liberals feel the need to change Canada into something else...why do Liberals hate Canada? Are Liberals sincere? No, they will say and do anything to get votes. Harper is sincere and has a big job ahead of him.

 

[#juan]

Is Harper sincere?

Let me see, what are the two biggest lies? The cheque is in the mail.....I can't remember the other one...

 

[Socrates the Greek]

I can see a Liberalcratic Canada but I have a problem with a Neocratic Canada. I hate the fact that this last election was partly religiously supported the Evangelicals gave Harper a small boost to make it in the door. As Harper said to day at the end of his speech God Bless Canada. Politics and Religion don’t taste good when mixed together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jay]

So how do you think these "Evangelicals" voted when Chreitien had his majority governments?

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Re: RE: Is Harper sincere?

So how do you think these "Evangelicals" voted when Chreitien had his majority governments?

Hey Jay, simply by virtue of the fact that the Tories where so badly dismantled that the Evangelicals had no choice but to vote for the devil they new over the devil that was fighting with in the party ranks.

 

[mabudon]

Most Canadians aren't politically suave enough

Not gonna start a new discussion in this thread, but I wanted to point out that I FULLY agree with this statement AND laughed my ass off at it at the same time, regardless of the incorrect use, it REALLy makes sense, we need a lot more politicallls suave folks in this country

Sorry to butt in, continue

 

[Jay]

It actually is true. The CBC did a study of political apathy in Canadians a few years back and found many, many Canadians don't even know the difference between left and right and most didn't know the Queen was head of state. I will try to find a link for it, but I remember looking for it a few months back and couldn't find it...maybe I could recruit you too help me find it.

 

[FiveParadox]

I remember something like that, Jay. It was depressing!

"Who's Canada's head of state?"
"Jean Chrétien?" (Not only during Martin's term, but it would be wrong anyway.)

 

[mabudon]

Maybe Jay, but my search "skillz" are not the best with my lousy connection (tho I think I recall the study you referenced and I know what you mean, a LOT of people I know don't know JACK about really anything going on in our country at ANY level of government)...
I just laughed cos I had just used the word "savvy" elsewhere and I think that's what ya meant, "suave" is sorta like "debonair" and most folks agree, knowing too much about politics makes you definitely "uncool"

 

[Jay]

Right! :lol:

I missed that at first. :lol:

I should have looked up the word instead of using spell check...