Is Canada Next Place For This Scheme?

[Wetcoast40]

If Chrysler were to build a modern version of the engine, it would be cleaner. They aren't about to though.[/quote]

GM did build a new-tech straight six in the past three years with remarkable power/cu. in. However, the engine is only used in rear wheel drive trucks.
The reason for the lack of in-line sixes seems to be space (length). With increased 'crush zones' and more complex plumbing and FWD transmission needs, it's just too long. Too bad because the in-line six configuration is widely known to be the smoothest running engine.
In any event, I guess the point I was trying to make was the current engine technology combined with electronic control produces much more efficient and cleaner burning motors. We can thank California for pushing the industry to this level and probably the same source for the next step.
So black boxes aren't all bad, but keep in mind we only use about a quarter of their capacity in most automobiles, so there is lots of room left for surrreptitious 'performance recording'. There are already court cases based on information obtained from these electronic recording devices following accidents.
Orwell didn't know the half of it.
Coaster :cheers:
PS: How'd you like the way I steered myself back to the original thread?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada Next Place

That new Chevy six isn't really new. It's the old 235 blue flame engine re-tooled so it works well with an automatic transmission. You couldn't vary the timing enough with the old distributors, so when you stopped at a light they tended to chug like a tank. With the new electonics, varying the timing isn't a problem anymore.

I'm also wondering if one of those old blue flames would be worth putting in the big green truck. I miss being able to haul that kind of weight.
They've also knocked a cylinder off it for their 5 cylinder, I hear, although I don't know anybody who has taken one of those apart yet.

The question that arises in my mind is why the hell we're still using automatic transmissions. Even the modern ones suck power (and gas) Anti-roll-back technology is available (it just keeps the brakes on in relation to clutch position), so it isn't like people need special skills to drive a standard anymore. Of course the car companies only use the anti-roll stuff in their expensive sports cars.

For all you people out there buying new cars here's a tip...you can save between 1% and 6% on your fuel bill if you get a standard. At the price of gas today, that's a considerable saving. Oh yeah...your car will be a little bit faster too.

 

[Wetcoast40]

Rev:
Dec 1/2000 GM announced the new Vortex 4200 Straight Six with Double Overhead Cams and a bucketload of torque. It was designed to be as powerful as a V8 with the needed torque for truck use. This ain't no Blue Flame baby! I notice that it is not offered as a 'crate engine' yet. You might find one in a wrecker's yard, but I doubt it.
As far as re-engine projects go, a good solid in-line six will give you many years of inexpensive, trouble-free service. If you aren't looking for a 'hot rod' motor, it's the best buy. GM's OHV sixes were as good as anything ever made in the U.S., and I'm no GM fan. The Blue Flame started life in the mid-late thirties and fifty plus years of refinement go a long way to making the engine a classic.
Good luck!

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada Next Place

You know how Chevy trucks are...it'll bolt right to the transmisson and I believe the holes for the motor mounts are even pre-drilled. I don't know that I'll ever do it though.

I'm not sure we're talking about the same new I-six. Is there more than one? I know a mechanic who had to take one apart for warranty work, he said that he was amazed when he got down to the engine itself and discovered that was the same design as the blue flame. He's worked for GM for about twenty years, so I'm pretty sure he'd notice the difference.

 

[Wetcoast40]

Google Ward's Ten Best Engines of 2005. It will give you the details on this now four year old design. It's more like a BMW six than anything else. It is now the only in-line six in a truck. I remember when it was first introduced that the performance boys were drooling over the potential for this engine. Sadly, it hasn't been adapted for an automobile yet.
I think I'm showing my age when I can wax nostalgic over a straight six!
coaster

 

[mrmom2]

Every where you look the plan to track and tax are cars is happening :x Its coming and we better be prepared to tell our goverment to take this plan and shove it :evil:
http://infowars.com/articles/bb/ibm_telematics_to_catch_speeders.htm

 

[damngrumpy]

The idea started long ago. The GPS is the first step in tracking our every move. Use of Credit and debit cards, what you buy in the store that goes through the scanner, the books you read at the library, all these activities are part of a future tracking system.
We have had a police state for some time now without paying attention to what is going on.
The 911 distater was a God send to the secret service agencies, as people were stampeded into surrendering their rights and freedoms.
The terrorists scored a bigger victory than we think, as people are looking to one group to protect us from another, while taking our liberty as the price we pay in full. If we had a democracy we would have weathered the strom and moved on. Instead we allowed fear to become our prison and those who are supposed to serve and protect to become our jailers.
If you are wondering if we will become a police state you are really too late, we are already on the road to that status.

 

[mrmom2]

The terrorists scored a bigger victory than we think, as people are looking to one group to protect us from another, while taking our liberty as the price we pay in full. If we had a democracy we would have weathered the strom and moved on. Instead we allowed fear to become our prison and those who are supposed to serve and protect to become our jailers.

So who do you think the terrorist were DG?Arabs?Hey dude were not in a police state yet! 8O But if people don't wake up were not far from it :evil: Don't give up the good fight though :? We haven't lost yet and we need all the soldiers we can get :wink: If we can get 10% of our population on board we will win :wink: