Iranian President Wants West to Apologize

[I think not]

TEHRAN, Iran - President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday said the West should apologize to Iran for accusing it of trying to develop a nuclear weapons program and said his country would continue to resist international pressure to halt its nuclear energy program.

"Today they tell our nation that nuclear energy is a bad thing and it is not necessary for our people to have it. But the nation of Iran has stood (for its right)," he said in a televised speech to mark the Iranian New Year, which begins Tuesday. "Those who head war and crimes accused the Iranian nation of war seeking. They insulted our nation. I do advise them to apologize."

Iran insists its nuclear program is for peaceful energy purposes but Western countries who believe otherwise have pushed for United Nations action _ including possible sanctions _ against the country.

Ahmadinejad stressed that Iran would not give up its nuclear rights.

"Today we announce with pride that the peaceful knowledge and technology are at our disposal in order to be used for different purposes, including electricity generation, and we have not borrowed it from anybody that can take it away from us," he said.

Ahmadinejad reiterated that Iran should be compensated for a two and a half year suspension of its nuclear activities. Under heavy pressure from the West, Iran suspended its enrichment of uranium and related activities in 2003 and began negotiating with Germany, Britain and France to reach an agreed framework for its nuclear development. It resumed nuclear research earlier this year when talks failed.

The United States and its European allies want Iran to permanently abandon uranium enrichment and all related activities, a technology that can be used to produce nuclear fuel for reactors or materials for a nuclear bomb.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11932273/

 

[Mogz]

:headbang:

we live in a bubble baby.
a bubble’s not reality.
you gotta have a look outside.
nothing in a bubble, is the way it’s supposed to be,
and when it blows you’ll hit the ground.
we live in a bubble baby.
but it’s not the place to be.
cause it’s a place of lies and hype.
don’t believe the bubble cause it’s nothing but a dream,
and when it blows you’ll be alone.
oh yeah

:headbang:

 

[Machjo]

Iran does have a point though. Why do they not have a right to exploit nuclear energy?

Where is teh evidence that they have the intention of building nuclear weapons?

 

[cortez]

the real problem with iran acquiring nuclear weapons is that it would be able to effectively defend itself against an american invasion
THAT is the problem

are nuclear weapons weopons of mass destruction
or are they weapons of mass deterence
even weopons of mass liberation

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Iranian President Wants West to Apologize

the real problem with iran acquiring nuclear weapons is that it would be able to effectively defend itself against an american invasion
THAT is the problem

are nuclear weapons weopons of mass destruction
or are they weapons of mass deterence
even weopons of mass liberation

I do believe in equality, but I don't think Iran acquiring nukes is the way to go about it. How about the nuke nations get rid of theirs instead?

Should we prove to the UN that Iran is trying to acquire nukes, then certainly internaitonal law ought to apply. but at the moment, there is no such evidence and Iran itself is stating categorically that it is not interested in pursuing such a course. So should the US pre-emptively attack Iran now, it would be violating yet another international law!

 

[Finder]

Re: RE: Iranian President Wants West to Apologize

the real problem with iran acquiring nuclear weapons is that it would be able to effectively defend itself against an american invasion
THAT is the problem

are nuclear weapons weopons of mass destruction
or are they weapons of mass deterence
even weopons of mass liberation

I do believe in equality, but I don't think Iran acquiring nukes is the way to go about it. How about the nuke nations get rid of theirs instead?

Should we prove to the UN that Iran is trying to acquire nukes, then certainly internaitonal law ought to apply. but at the moment, there is no such evidence and Iran itself is stating categorically that it is not interested in pursuing such a course. So should the US pre-emptively attack Iran now, it would be violating yet another international law!

I think everyone would be fine with that, including Iran. As the Soviet Union had always wished for further disarmiment, it was always the USA pushing back for new nukes and more. Even todo they go against past treaties and push for new ways to destory the world. The American's depend on the nukes as a way to control the world. It's not going to happen as long as the USA thinks it can use it's nukes to spread fear in other nations.

As for the USA attacking Iran.... I don't see it happening. What needs to happen is what is happening now, and thats this argument going by the UN, and the UN security council.

 

[cortez]

agreed -if the nations that have nukes ---all of them would get rid of their nukes- but they wont--not one of them

heres a science fiction novel im working on just for fun
so dont take me seriously --ok

suggested nuclear powers to deter possible future wars of aggression

1- cuba- the carribean deterent
2- venezuela- the deterrent at the equator
3- brazil, argentina, chile- the southern cone shield
4- iran- the persian deterent
5- japan- the chineese containment
6- canada- the true north deterrent
7-graduallly add i nuclear power a year for a safer tomorrow-- gradually reaching an international stalemate where wars of aggression are far less likely because they wouldnt be worth it

yes the americans depend on nukes to control the world- as you have said

they would find it more difficult if there were more of a balance-- strike that ANYONE would

convert all convential armed forces into weapons of mass deterance for a safer tomorrow

im afraid there is no going back as far as nukes go
we can only tip toe forward

the final page of the novel is

-- not even oppenheimer himself could have realized as he looked horrified at the first nuclear test- that what he was witnessing was not a destroyer of worlds but a protector of worlds that would eventually make-- do on to your neighbour as you would onto yourself-- and instant karma--- a practical and at the same time global physical reality for all. the nuclear deterant is the physical mainfestation of gods wrath -- we have found him -- he feels the need to teach us the lessons of life in the only manner we can understand--

maybe the old testamennt wasnt so far off the mark after all

remember this is only a novel-- a twist on dr strangelove

in reality- im with you lets get rid of them all

BUT HOW

 

[EagleSmack]

The Soviets pushed for Nuclear Disarmament! What a joke. The only time they talked about disarmament is when they went bankrupt trying to outspend the US. In the 70's the Soviets enjoyed a scary margin of nuclear supremacy over the US. Sure they would not have got off unscathed in an all out exchange but they would have been able to hit the US a lot harder. In the 70's NUCLEAR WEAPONS were "A OK!" for the Ruskies.

But when Reagan came along and dumped a whole lot of money into the military the Soviets realized that they could not keep up. Thats when Ol Gorbachov said...

"Ummm.... Can we talk?"