Interior silence and meditation.

[china]

Hi Sanctus ,
Without meditation, there is no self-knowledge; without self-knowledge, there is no meditation. So you must begin to know what you are. You cannot go far without beginning near, without understanding your daily process of thought, feeling, and action. In other words, thought must understand its own working, and when you see yourself in operation, you will observe that thought moves from the known to the known. You cannot think about the unknown. That which you know is not real because what you know is only in time. To be free from the net of time is the important concern, not to think about the unknown, because you cannot think about the unknown. The answers to your prayers are of the known. To receive the unknown, the mind itself must become the unknown. The mind is the result of the thought process, the result of time, and this thought process must come to an end. The mind cannot think of that which is eternal, timeless; therefore, the mind must be free of time, the time process of the mind must be dissolved. Only when the mind is completely free from yesterday, and is therefore not using the present as a means to the future, is it capable of receiving the eternal. …Therefore, our concern in meditation is to know oneself, not only superficially, but the whole content of the inner, hidden consciousness. Without knowing all that and being free of its conditioning, you cannot possibly go beyond the mind's limits. That is why the thought process must cease, and for this cessation there must be knowledge of oneself. Therefore meditation is the beginning of wisdom, which is the understanding of one's own mind and heart and Love .

 

[L Gilbert]

That's one view. I've noticed that in some cultures people gain self-knowledge (self-awareness, etc,) by observing themselves reflected in the outside world, whereas other people see the outside world as a reflection of them. People constantly think about the unknown. A few simply accept the unknown as unknown or non-existent.
Anyway, as the power of thought (among other things) is a part of us, I think it's regressive to say that we should rid ourselves of thought, emotion, whatever else we are made up of. To deny a part of ourselves is to deny our humanity.

Um, man created gods n whatnot in his own image.

 

[china]

L Gilbert
People constantly think about the unknown.______________________________-___

They are obviously fooling them selfs ;...Known can only Know(think) Known,
one can't think about something he's not aware of.

I think it's regressive to say that we should rid ourselves of thought, emotion, whatever else we are made up of. ______________________________________

Why?

 

[L Gilbert]

L Gilbert
People constantly think about the unknown.______________________________-___

They are obviously fooling them selfs ;...Known can only Know(think) Known,
one can't think about something he's not aware of.

One can still wonder about the unknown. Wondering is a form of thinking.

I think it's regressive to say that we should rid ourselves of thought, emotion, whatever else we are made up of. ______________________________________

Why?

It's our nature to think, feel, etc. To attempt to rid ourselves of our nature is regressive, we'd revert back to amoeba and parameceums. I prefer to accept me as I am. Not to say I don't improve on me once in a while, but I don't actively try to rid myself of parts of me.

 

[china]

L Gilbert :It's our nature to think, feel, etc. To attempt to rid ourselves of our nature is regressive, we'd revert back to amoeba and parameceums. :icon_smile: I prefer to accept me as I am. Not to say I don't improve on me once in a while, but I don't actively try to rid myself of parts of me.______________________________

If you had only one hour to live, what would you do? Would you not arrange what is necessary outwardly, your affairs, your will, and so on? Would you not call your family and friends together and ask their forgiveness for the harm that you might have done to them, and forgive them for whatever harm they might have done to you? Would you not die completely to the things of the mind, to desires and to the world? And if it can be done for an hour, then it can also be done for the days and years that may remain…Try it and you will find out

L Gilbet :One can still wonder about the unknown. Wondering is a form of thinking.

Why don't you wonder for a while about something you don't know and and tell us what you come up with,ok? Obviously you can think about it too.

 

[L Gilbert]

L Gilbert :It's our nature to think, feel, etc. To attempt to rid ourselves of our nature is regressive, we'd revert back to amoeba and parameceums. :icon_smile: I prefer to accept me as I am. Not to say I don't improve on me once in a while, but I don't actively try to rid myself of parts of me.______________________________

If you had only one hour to live, what would you do? Would you not arrange what is necessary outwardly, your affairs, your will, and so on? Would you not call your family and friends together and ask their forgiveness for the harm that you might have done to them, and forgive them for whatever harm they might have done to you? Would you not die completely to the things of the mind, to desires and to the world? And if it can be done for an hour, then it can also be done for the days and years that may remain…Try it and you will find out

I think I'd probably sit down and read as much of a book that I've been putting off reading for a while and cram in a couple or 3 bottles of stout.

L Gilbet :One can still wonder about the unknown. Wondering is a form of thinking.

Why don't you wonder for a while about something you don't know and and tell us what you come up with,ok? Obviously you can think about it too.

Nah. I wonder about other things mostly, although I disn't know anything about string theory yet have wondered and then thought about it after having read a bit .

 

[mapleleafgirl]

L Gilbert :It's our nature to think, feel, etc. To attempt to rid ourselves of our nature is regressive, we'd revert back to amoeba and parameceums. :icon_smile: I prefer to accept me as I am. Not to say I don't improve on me once in a while, but I don't actively try to rid myself of parts of me.______________________________

If you had only one hour to live, what would you do? Would you not arrange what is necessary outwardly, your affairs, your will, and so on? Would you not call your family and friends together and ask their forgiveness for the harm that you might have done to them, and forgive them for whatever harm they might have done to you? Would you not die completely to the things of the mind, to desires and to the world? And if it can be done for an hour, then it can also be done for the days and years that may remain…Try it and you will find out

L Gilbet :One can still wonder about the unknown. Wondering is a form of thinking.

Why don't you wonder for a while about something you don't know and and tell us what you come up with,ok? Obviously you can think about it too.

this is such a good message. kind of like, dont know where i read this, but i think alice in wonderland where the character says he tries to think one impossible thing a day or something like that.