In which reference frame the Higgs boson was found ?

socratus

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I asked a simple question- Is the HB negative or positive.
With all these brainiacs here I expected a reply.
Buy Oh No- Can't do that now can we - No - gotta leave that puppy alone.

They themselves don’t know.
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The Higgs Boson May Have 'Five Faces'
And they've come up with a doozy:
maybe there isn't just one Higgs boson
(the as-yet-undiscovered subatomic particle believed to impart mass);
maybe, instead, there are five different versions,
with similar masses but different electric charges.
The Higgs Boson May Have 'Five Faces' : Discovery News

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They themselves don’t know.
==.
The Higgs Boson May Have 'Five Faces'
And they've come up with a doozy:
maybe there isn't just one Higgs boson
(the as-yet-undiscovered subatomic particle believed to impart mass);
maybe, instead, there are five different versions,
with similar masses but different electric charges.
The Higgs Boson May Have 'Five Faces' : Discovery News

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OK- Reason is everything works on a positive or negative does it not? I am generalizing here.
 

socratus

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OK- Reason is everything works on a positive or negative does it not?
I am generalizing here.

They say: ' different electric charges.'

So, if boson is matter then its charge is negative.
5 different bosons have 5 different electric charges.

Therefore 5 bosons must have 5 antibosons with 5 positive charges.
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They say: ' different electric charges.'

So, if boson is matter then its charge is negative.
5 different bosons have 5 different electric charges.

Therefore 5 bosons must have 5 antibosons with 5 positive charges.
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So a positive Boson could attract anti matter?

Or you could call it the peanut butter that holds everything together.
 

socratus

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I was wrong.
More correct.
They say:
‘ Now we have to contend with five -- count 'em, five! -- Higgs bosons:
three with a neutral charge and one each with a negative and positive charge,
known as the "two-Higgs doublet model.
Apparently this would account for the latest D-Zero results.’

Sorry.
 

socratus

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Physicists searched for one ‘God particle’ and found
5 different ‘ God bosons particles’.
Who will say now: ‘God Does Not Play Dice’ ?
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Concerning CERN:
Cliff Burgess on the discovery of the Higgs boson
http://phys.org/news/2012-07-cern-cliff-burgess-discovery-higgs.html
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My comment.
Dirac was one of the first who said how vacuum is important.
" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./
And Cliff Burgess ( himself a theoretical particle physicist
and professor of physics and astronomy ) forgot Dirac name.

In 1928 Dirac said that ‘ virtual particles’ exist in vacuum
but until now we don’t know their essence.
Why?
Because as ‘a theoretical particle physicist and professor
of physics and astronomy’ said :
‘Suppose you were interested in the properties of fish and how
they move and why some fish move faster than others given
the same amount of effort. This would be very hard if you
did not understand what water was.
In order to understand properly the motion of fish, you must first
also understand the environment through which they move.’
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It means that to know properties of fish- particles at first we need
to understand environment – VACUUM through which the
fish- particles move.
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But today.
Today physicists refuse to take vacuum as a real conception
as a fundament of Universe.
Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’
by Steven Weinberg. Page 138.
‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot
reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not
sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute zero
simple have no meaning.’
/ Steven Weinberg. The Nobel Prize in Physics 1979 /
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Therefore theoretical physics full with abstractions and puzzles.
P.S.
The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
vacuum is a gross misnomer!
/ Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
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It was several years ago, but i read a book called the The Big Bang Never Happened.. by a physicist and contrarian aimed at a general readership.. which made a pretty powerful case against a lot of the Cosmological structural beams.. which have become ever more complex and bizarre as gaps appear in its pristine simplicity. In fact, some were discarded completely, allowing for 'inflation' and all kinds of unseen elements.. without ever going back and questioning the original premises.

The author was looking for other explanations like Hans Alfvens proposals of a filamentary universe. Not being a scientist.. or in anyway science oriented myself.. i still see huge problems when theories are floated the can NEVER be proven.. such a multiple dimensions and universes.. or such concepts as 'uncertainty' or 'progression' of time. Those things really do move into the realm of philosophy.. and i would propose.. fantasy. Certainly if the Big Bang never happened.. then the scientific framework of Dark Matter and related theories collapses.

The overriding characteristic of modern physics is it is based on mathematical speculation, not observable phenomenon.

And i'm not sure Quantum Mechanics is responsible for the computer.. it seems to me practical experimental electronics (not to mention chemistry and metallurgy).. has had a separate development from Physics.. since the latter half of the 20th Century.

Your problem is that you have invented a strawman modern physics and any evidence to the contrary you discount. Electronics is physics, and all physics that enters maturity spawns engineering fields.

Pull your head out of the sand. A transistor could not exist without quantum mechanical energy band gaps, and the computer cannot exist without transistors.

If the big bang never happened then dark matter, dark energy, black holes and everything else you don't like still exists. Physics is not a house of cards. Moreover, to most physicists, the beginning of the big bang doesn't necessarily mean a singularity; the fact of the matter is that the surface of last scattering, which we observe, proves that at one point the universe was a dense hot plasma: the big bang.
 

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OK- Reason is everything works on a positive or negative does it not? I am generalizing here.
No. There's either a positive, a negative, or a neutral.

I was wrong.
More correct.
They say:
‘ Now we have to contend with five -- count 'em, five! -- Higgs bosons:
three with a neutral charge and one each with a negative and positive charge,
known as the "two-Higgs doublet model.
Apparently this would account for the latest D-Zero results.’

Sorry.
That's better.
 

socratus

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Higgs particle + Higgs Field = Higgs Ocean.

The Ocean Of Spacetime And The Higgs
http://www.science20.com/big_science_gambles/the_ocean_of_spacetime_and_the_higgs

Swimming in the Higgs Ocean
http://www.cosi.org/cosi-blog/item/swimming-in-the-higgs-ocean

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Higgs Ocean ‘ is a Frame of Reference.
Is ‘ Higgs Ocean ‘ an ‘open’ or ‘closed’ system ?
Is ‘ Higgs Ocean ‘ a ‘hot’ or ‘cold’ system ?
Does ‘ Higgs Ocean ‘ have the cosmic microwave background
radiationparameter T=2,7K ?
 

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Is a Higgs Boson a Positive or a Negative particle-

Neither. It's neutral. All known bosons are, except the negatively-charged W boson.

The Higgs boson also doesn't have its own antiparticle. Its antiparticle is itself.