In a free usa, if you talk too much you get fired

Logic 7

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PROVO — Brigham Young University placed physics professor Steven Jones on paid leave Thursday while it reviews his involvement in the so-called "9/11 truth movement" that accuses unnamed government agencies of orchestrating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center.
Steven Jones
BYU will conduct an official review of Jones' actions before determining a course of action, university spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. Such a review is rare for a professor with "continuing status" at BYU, where Jones has taught since 1985.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645199800,00.html



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thomaska

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Logic 7 said:
PROVO — Brigham Young University placed physics professor Steven Jones on paid leave Thursday while it reviews his involvement in the so-called "9/11 truth movement" that accuses unnamed government agencies of orchestrating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center.
Steven Jones
BYU will conduct an official review of Jones' actions before determining a course of action, university spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. Such a review is rare for a professor with "continuing status" at BYU, where Jones has taught since 1985.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645199800,00.html



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You should change the subject line to :

If you act like an ass, and promote whacko theories that make your employer look bad, you get fired...

oops... cept that "paid" leave isn't exactly fired
 

#juan

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Professor Jones

is within his rights to question anything, and certainly within his right to question the happenings on 9/11. Maybe if the government had produced a full inquiry and publish the evidence and results, people like professor Jones wouldn't feel they had to speak out.
 

Logic 7

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thomaska said:
Logic 7 said:
PROVO — Brigham Young University placed physics professor Steven Jones on paid leave Thursday while it reviews his involvement in the so-called "9/11 truth movement" that accuses unnamed government agencies of orchestrating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center.
Steven Jones
BYU will conduct an official review of Jones' actions before determining a course of action, university spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. Such a review is rare for a professor with "continuing status" at BYU, where Jones has taught since 1985.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645199800,00.html



:roll:

You should change the subject line to :

If you act like an ass, and promote whacko theories that make your employer look bad, you get fired...

oops... cept that "paid" leave isn't exactly fired



Jones promoted whacko theorie of involvement of alqueada in 9-11?


I don't think he promoted that.
 

WilliamAshley

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RE: In a free usa, if you

sabatical?

If it is due to promoting a theory I think that there is a serious issue.

People should be fully intitled to speak their conscience, and professors more then ever when not being criminal should be free from conjecture, especially by their employer.

The theories I have read hold some ground, and raise some very serious questions.
 

Colpy

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Logic 7 said:
PROVO — Brigham Young University placed physics professor Steven Jones on paid leave Thursday while it reviews his involvement in the so-called "9/11 truth movement" that accuses unnamed government agencies of orchestrating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center.
Steven Jones
BYU will conduct an official review of Jones' actions before determining a course of action, university spokeswoman Carri Jenkins said. Such a review is rare for a professor with "continuing status" at BYU, where Jones has taught since 1985.

http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645199800,00.html




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Jones has every right to make a damned fool of himself, God knows he won't be the first professor to do so...................

The university has every right to distance itself from his views, although I think that could better be achieved by means not so draconian as suspending him.

The guy must have tenure, so his job is safe, unless he gives cause for dismissal. Being deluded is NOT cause for dismissal in any university I ever heard of.

Now, to the root of the problem.........I am disturbed by the restrictions placed on freedom in the war on terror. We must be careful that we don't destroy the very things that make our society worth fighting for..........I don't give a damn if we and our allies kill every Taliban, every Hamas and Hezbollah man, every ally of Osama, in fact I fervently wish that were possible.

What I DO have a problem with is restrictions on movement, free speech, protection against forced witness, and our ancient right to be considered innocent, just to start.

We must maintain our freedom on our territory.
 

Toro

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WilliamAshley said:
sabatical?

If it is due to promoting a theory I think that there is a serious issue.

People should be fully intitled to speak their conscience, and professors more then ever when not being criminal should be free from conjecture, especially by their employer.

The theories I have read hold some ground, and raise some very serious questions.

I don't. I think he's a nutbar.

However, he should not be disciplined for holding his views.

Same with an academic who studies race and comes to the conclusion one race has attributes other races do not, as much as I might find that repulsive.