No, the cause of the problems is 80% of Parliament making sure to follow their EU masters and keep the UK in the EU, at any cost.
And the banks.
And the MSM.
And the usual retarded celebrity crowd.
To hell with what the people said.
If Brexit is blocked, will it ever be worth voting again?
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No, the cause of the problems is 80% of Parliament making sure to follow their EU masters and keep the UK in the EU, at any cost.
And the banks.
And the MSM.
And the usual retarded celebrity crowd.
To hell with what the people said.
How about a referendum about how binding a referendum is when voted on successfully by those critters called 'the vast majority of thinking adults of voting age'.
If one thing a Muslim majority meant the Royals were put on the same welfare as the rest of the 'commoners' rather than being a blight on the welfare system that really would be enough to call Military Law. That is how 'free' the UK is, a slab of meat in somebody else's locker, . . . just like the rest of us.
Without outside help both WW's would have been lost, that was to get the US involved. Along with a lot of needless dead there was a lot of needless debt piled onto the whole world through those wars, probably a good thing that number does get use as a 'key word' for why we are where we are. Delays in the climax happening when it should is not a real confidence the plan unfolding is 'a flawless plan'.
I prefer to roll my own dice thanks.
As i see it the only solution to the 'backstop' has to be decided by Northern Ireland; not Europe or Great Britain. If it wants no hard border between the Republic of Ireland and Ulster it will have to settle for a hard border along the Irish Sea. This might encompass allowing all value added product from NI in free of tariffs but not allow transshipment of goods (and of course migrants) from the EU in through the backdoor. It's not a perfect solution but it might be the only feasible one.
There is a lot of pie in the sky fantasy about a sovereign UK in a global free trade zone. These are contradictions in terms. A national, integrated, industrial and agricultural economy will need a resort to tariffs in its economic arsenal. It was that way 200 years ago and will be the same 200 years from now. This 'inevitable' momentum towards an tariff free world is a chimera.
None of promises of an equitable, prosperous, peaceful global free market community have been met. Just the opposite the world is being driven into economic chaos. The West's economies have been deindustrialized, deagricultualized, and its vital industry has been undermined by a corrosive monetarism and financialization of the economy. Its leading to polarization of wealth and encroaching impoverishment.
As far as Bexit goes, the British are letting the tale wag the dog. If Northern Ireland is so attached to its Irish connections perhaps its time to reunite. Religion it seems is no more a priority in the North or the South as the Republic continues to distance itself from Catholicism and Ulster from the Church of England.
In any event the EU is collapsing. The riots in Paris have shown the malignancy at the core of the union has now metastasized into the heart of Germany and France. The UK has no choice. It has to see the reestablishment of its sovereignty as a necessity not an option in the changing European landscape.
There is a lot of pie in the sky fantasy about a sovereign UK in a global free trade zone. These are contradictions in terms. A national, integrated, industrial and agricultural economy will need a resort to tariffs in its economic arsenal. It was that way 200 years ago and will be the same 200 years from now. This 'inevitable' momentum towards an tariff free world is a chimera.
None of promises of an equitable, prosperous, peaceful global free market community have been met. Just the opposite the world is being driven into economic chaos. The West's economies have been deindustrialized, deagricultualized, and its vital industry has been undermined by a corrosive monetarism and financialization of the economy. Its leading to polarization of wealth and encroaching impoverishment.
As far as Bexit goes, the British are letting the tale wag the dog. If Northern Ireland is so attached to its Irish connections perhaps its time to reunite. Religion it seems is no more a priority in the North or the South as the Republic continues to distance itself from Catholicism and Ulster from the Church of England.
In any event the EU is collapsing. The riots in Paris have shown the malignancy at the core of the union has now metastasized into the heart of Germany and France. The UK has no choice. It has to see the reestablishment of its sovereignty as a necessity not an option in the changing European landscape.
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Would you be in favour of Quebec getting a special free trade zone with China ?
You should say yes.
Quebec is a contiguous part of Canada. It is subordinate to the Federal laws and state of Canada. Canada needs hard borders with China, and the U.S. and, Mexico. Canada should promote open competitive trade only within its borders. So the answer is NO. Multilateral international Free Trade is a disaster for the whole and the part of the nation state. Trade in value added product consistent with economic goals is an essential part of an economy but can only be managed on a flexible bilateral basis with other nations.
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Nobody voted on what leaving meant.
A shockingly stupid way to conduct national and international affairs.
So does Scotland, should the (shiver) break actually ever take place, as to re repatriated with the EU and when that war is overt ask to split and rejoin with Iceland and be the hub for power coming from them once they have been recognized again after having the nerve to jail a politician and a banker in the sane decade. What were they thinking, all they have to show for all theit efforts is a thriving crime free country. No fake drama is boring, ask any Yank.
I have some sympathy with Theresa May who has been put in a insoluble situation as some kind of sacrificial lamb by Brexiteers and EUers. She's shown a lot game but almost nothing in terms of a deft touch.
She really has no prospect of passing Brexit legislation with the opposition of hardliners in her own caucus and Labour, and the Northern Ireland DUP on whom she is dependent to keep the Conservatives in government. There seems no way out of this. I just think there is no option but to forge ahead. Returning to the EU cap in hand after it has produced nothing but bitter division for 48 years is just not an option.. for Britain or for the EU.
That means Britain will likely leave with No Agreement or some kind of makeshift, ramshackle, transitional understanding. She'll have to make her own way as a sovereign, independent nation. But my sense is she will just be the first of many spinning out of the EU orbit.
She really has no prospect of passing Brexit legislation with the opposition of hardliners in her own caucus and Labour, and the Northern Ireland DUP on whom she is dependent to keep the Conservatives in government. There seems no way out of this. I just think there is no option but to forge ahead. Returning to the EU cap in hand after it has produced nothing but bitter division for 48 years is just not an option.. for Britain or for the EU.
That means Britain will likely leave with No Agreement or some kind of makeshift, ramshackle, transitional understanding. She'll have to make her own way as a sovereign, independent nation. But my sense is she will just be the first of many spinning out of the EU orbit.
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Was the deal that if it didn't she would retire before 2022?? About as generous as Merkle, no wonder nobody invades the EU willingly, even then it is a struggle when it is migrants rather than a foreign army.
Trains for NATO war games but the migrants must walk??
Trains for NATO war games but the migrants must walk??
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Parliament is 75% Remoaners, they will cancel Brexit before any no deal scenario.
**** the voters.
I think it's time for the municipalities that want to leave to organize and present their own declaration of independence to the House of Commons. They could call their new country the Republic of England. The Remoaners could then remain in what would remain of the United Kingdom. Done!