I support Israel
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Those posts were written by Jews who were there and know what happened. I would have posted a link but since you didn't read it when the whole thing was posted, there wasn't much chance of you reading by way of a link. I happen to bellieve the information in my recent posts. I could care less if you do or not. Like I said, you didn't read them in any case.
Even moderators can have an opinion on the topics presented. I also have an opinion of posters who lead off with an insult to posters they don't agree with but I will keep that to myself.
Have a good day
Just because you the 10 pages of text in the middle of the thread it won't make anyone read it. It is just annoying childish behavior of trying to force people to read it. I don't suggest moderators should not have an opinion, just that they shouldn't have behaviors like this.
BTW Israel is a democratic country so of course there will be dissenters with their own bias. Claiming they are Jews so it must be true holds no water. You can probably find americans that believe 911 was done by the CIA.
Find me where the governments of Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon claim territory that Israel is occupying today as you original stated. This is your main claim that I denounced as BS. Ancient history does not apply. What territory is in dispute between these nations today?
If Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan make no such claims, then then cleary Israel is not controlling part of their land. That would be settled and agreed upon borders, by all parties.
It is hatemonger BS to paint this as Israel controlling their (Egyption,Lebanese, Jordainian) land when they are mutually agreed upon borders.
BTW Israel is a democratic country so of course there will be dissenters with their own bias. Claiming they are Jews so it must be true holds no water. You can probably find americans that believe 911 was done by the CIA.
Find me where the governments of Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon claim territory that Israel is occupying today as you original stated. This is your main claim that I denounced as BS. Ancient history does not apply. What territory is in dispute between these nations today?
If Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan make no such claims, then then cleary Israel is not controlling part of their land. That would be settled and agreed upon borders, by all parties.
It is hatemonger BS to paint this as Israel controlling their (Egyption,Lebanese, Jordainian) land when they are mutually agreed upon borders.
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Shiite Muslims and Lefties in Canada are spreading so much BS about Israel to the point that they are insane.
Shiite Muslims along with the idiot other Terrorist Muslims the Sunnis are a bunch of crap.
Israel never attacked anyone. Those idiot Muslims who state that are full of sh**. IN 1967 It was the idiot Muslims who hate Christians that attacked Israel.
To put an end to these countless attacks against Israel have the USA NUKE Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Indonesia and Pakistan.
That is the only way to stop these braindead Muslim idiots . Allah is not a God he is a murderer who led those idiot muslims to killing thousands upon thousands of Christians. Allah is a PUKE and God cannot stand him because of his idiot murderous ways.
Hammas and Hezbollah should be totally eliminated from the face of the earth along with their supporters and then THAT will bring PEACE ! Not until.
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Arabs hate Arabs and start wars between them. They are so stupid !
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Shiite Muslims and Lefties in Canada are spreading so much BS about Israel to the point that they are insane.
Shiite Muslims along with the idiot other Terrorist Muslims the Sunnis are a bunch of crap.
Israel never attacked anyone. Those idiot Muslims who state that are full of sh**. IN 1967 It was the idiot Muslims who hate Christians that attacked Israel.
To put an end to these countless attacks against Israel have the USA NUKE Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Indonesia and Pakistan.
That is the only way to stop these braindead Muslim idiots . Allah is not a God he is a murderer who led those idiot muslims to killing thousands upon thousands of Christians. Allah is a PUKE and God cannot stand him because of his idiot murderous ways.
Hammas and Hezbollah should be totally eliminated from the face of the earth along with their supporters and then THAT will bring PEACE ! Not until.
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Arabs hate Arabs and start wars between them. They are so stupid !
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I'm sure it is only annoying because it is of a different opinion to your own,
These people who wrote what I posted are not frivolous people. Most would take them seriously. You can do what you want.
U.S. asks Israel to withdraw from land claimed by Lebanon
SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Monday, August 1, 2005
The Bush administration is pressing Israel to withdraw from a sliver of territory claimed by Lebanon.
Officials said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice discussed the case for Israeli withdrawal from Shebaa during her trip to Israel earlier this month. After meeting Prime Minister Ariel Sharon on July 22, Ms.Rice made an unscheduled one-day visit to Beirut to meet Siniora and express support for Lebanon in wake of the Syrian military withdrawal.
Lebanese officials said the administration has assured the new government of Prime Minister Fuad Siniora that the United States would urge Israel to withdraw from the Shebaa Plateau. The area was captured by Israel in the 1967 war and the United Nations regards the area as Syrian territory, Middle East Newsline reported.
"Washington sees the Shebaa Plateau as containing the potential of another Middle East crisis and the main excuse for Hizbullah's continued presence," a Lebanese official said. "We have been given the impression that results could be expected over the next year."
Members of Ms. Rice's delegation told Siniora that the administration would demand a timetable for an Israeli withdrawal from Shebaa after the unilateral pullout from the Gaza Strip and northern West Bank in August.
The Golan Heights are rightly owned by Syria whether you believe it or not.
The original borders of Israel drawn by the UN did not include The Golan Heights, The Gaza Strip, The WestBank, or the Shebaa Plateau
I don't care how many shady deals have been pulled or how much leaverage has been used, Israel has greatly expanded their borders.
That is all I have to say about that bloody mess.
Re: RE: I support Israel
Maybe you shouldn't be arguing with Juan about it. Maybe you should be arguing against the high profile Jews who made the statements that seem to shatter your sense of reality, and which contradict the interpretation you will so stubbornly make regardless of documentation.
It’s not Juan’s fault that such statements were made from such high profile Jews of Israel. Statements which are of record.
Freethinker said:
Maybe you shouldn't be arguing with Juan about it. Maybe you should be arguing against the high profile Jews who made the statements that seem to shatter your sense of reality, and which contradict the interpretation you will so stubbornly make regardless of documentation.
It’s not Juan’s fault that such statements were made from such high profile Jews of Israel. Statements which are of record.
Logic 7 said:
I think our friend has what you call a little case of
It's extremely narrow minded to see things in such context. But I guess it's easier on the person if they only have to think in black or white, it's the lazy way of thinking I guess. This sh!t's been going on before there were muslems. That was just an unfortunate yet ignorant rant.
Logic7 I have a few friends who are Muslims originally from Beiruit Lebanon. They have considerable hatred for Hammas and Hezbollah. These organizations are terrorist and financially supported by Iran, Syria and get ready for this part thousands of Muslims from Montreal and Toronto.
They asked me what in hell is going on with 40,000 Canadians in Lebanon trying to get out? 40,000 Canadians in Lebanon? What are they doing there? A ton of them are financing Hezbollah.
One of them said that Stephen Harper should let them stay there because many of them are definitely terrorists doing fundraising in Canada and bringing the money back there to support Hezbollah.
It doesn't surprise me one bit to hear that.
Maggiemygosh said:
For you to be lecturing on hate is laughable given your post is dripping with hate.
Nuke people?
There is a level below sanity when someone starts expousing nukes as a solution in today’s age. Even the wind currents don’t know any discretion in who gets killed from the nuclear fallout and I guess the children in surrounding countries, even way up into Europe who find themselves dying of cancer seems to elude your capacity to think with any reason or sensibility.
Don’t worry however, I can tell you are not alone here with your hatred so you can at least take some comfort in some sort of community. Even if it might be a small but very loud one.
Anyone with intelligence and common sense hates terrorists and their supporters. Those who disagree are supporters of terrorism.
These are facts and the main reason why these muslim terrorists are preparing to eliminate any Christian regardless of where they live on this earth. That is also a fact. I didn't create it they did.
So if you are a Christian then put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye because the muslim extermists will end your life soon.
These are facts and the main reason why these muslim terrorists are preparing to eliminate any Christian regardless of where they live on this earth. That is also a fact. I didn't create it they did.
So if you are a Christian then put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye because the muslim extermists will end your life soon.
Maggiemygosh said:
:roll: Wow that was certainly spoon fed.
Comon man. Nobody likes terrorists, or terrorist activity but history both old and modern has its fair share of non muslems too. They don't have the patent on Terrorism...And if you believe otherwise, my condolences...and please don't breed.
Hating terrorists and their supporters doesn't resolve anything. Simply firing off guns supports terrorism because it creates more terrorists.
What the world needs are better leaders. Uniters not dividers. The non-Arab world ignored the fact that 13 Arab countries had unresolved issues when the UN General Assembly created the State of Israel. They stuck their heads in the sand and hoped everyone would just go away. I doubt we'd have much peace here if a North American partition was voted for by Europe but voted against by us.
Rational sane people need to meet and come to a collective consensus on a plan to resolve the root problems, not just the bandaid solutions.
What the world needs are better leaders. Uniters not dividers. The non-Arab world ignored the fact that 13 Arab countries had unresolved issues when the UN General Assembly created the State of Israel. They stuck their heads in the sand and hoped everyone would just go away. I doubt we'd have much peace here if a North American partition was voted for by Europe but voted against by us.
Rational sane people need to meet and come to a collective consensus on a plan to resolve the root problems, not just the bandaid solutions.
Maggiemygosh said:
That is what is called circular thinking. It’s the idea that if a person doesn’t support what Israel is doing, then they support the terrorists. It’s the attitude that Bush used, “your are either with us, or with the terrorists.”
And yet I have seen some of the worst in human beings come out on both sides.
It’s a way of delineating shades of gray and making the concept so black and white, good and bad that there is no room to get at the reality without suddenly being turned into an enemy.
It leaves no real room for discussion. And people wonder why there is failure. Why conflict is never resolved between fractions.
Such thinking is one step away from true prejudice.
Re: RE: I support Israel
I consider any post that doesn't fit on one screen annoying, and it should be even half a screen unless it is your own words. I also consider people how never trim quotes annoying when they start taking up a page, but I forgive that as lazyness. But to post volumes in a childish attempt to bury other posts or "force people to read it", well that is just lame.
It doesn't shatter anything, because I didn't bother reading it. I have read the history from a variety of sources. I own a really good documentary on the history as well. If he wants to have decent forum etiquette and post a link and a small quote on the pertinent section to the current discussion I will read the important bits. But I don't need to re-read yet another version of what happened 700 years ago to understand the current conflict.
Even Arab sources confirm that the greatest exodus was triggered when they greatly exaggerated the ruthlessness of the Jews attack and it backfired. There was no mass expulsion by the Jews.
elevennevele said:
I consider any post that doesn't fit on one screen annoying, and it should be even half a screen unless it is your own words. I also consider people how never trim quotes annoying when they start taking up a page, but I forgive that as lazyness. But to post volumes in a childish attempt to bury other posts or "force people to read it", well that is just lame.
It doesn't shatter anything, because I didn't bother reading it. I have read the history from a variety of sources. I own a really good documentary on the history as well. If he wants to have decent forum etiquette and post a link and a small quote on the pertinent section to the current discussion I will read the important bits. But I don't need to re-read yet another version of what happened 700 years ago to understand the current conflict.
Even Arab sources confirm that the greatest exodus was triggered when they greatly exaggerated the ruthlessness of the Jews attack and it backfired. There was no mass expulsion by the Jews.
#juan said:
Sheeba was Syrian territory when Israel captured it, when Israel pulled out of Lebanon, after the Israeli Lebanon pullout in 2000, Syria brought this forward to use as an excuse for Hezbollahs attacks. So I see this as Syrian disputed territory.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Shebaa Farms
So still no Jordainian, Egyption or Lebanese territory held as you orginally claimed. Disputed areas are Syrian/Palestinian.
Jo Canadian said:I think our friend has what you call a little case of
It's extremely narrow minded to see things in such context. But I guess it's easier on the person if they only have to think in black or white, it's the lazy way of thinking I guess. This sh!t's been going on before there were muslems. That was just an unfortunate yet ignorant rant.
I agree entirely with you there.