Yes I do. I think you're all seriously deluded, I see no reason not to say so, and I can argue the case pretty well. If this were in the Christian Discussion forum I wouldn't have made that comment, I have no interest in what's in there anymore, but in a more general Faith Discussion forum, I view it as fair game. You want a Christian forum where you can all congratulate and support each other in your righteousness, take it somewhere else.
After just reading about its history and use, being born again seems like a rather silly cop-out to taking responsibility in one's self.
Dex, snowles...
Like it says in my signature,
At some point in time all men come to a realization, if they truly are growing, at this point they are being reborn.
It need not be the trademark of the Christian faith.
It can be as personal and as meaningful as necessary for the individual that has the realization.
My personal rebirth, was not borne of the Spirit of Jesus entering me, it was when I came to the self realization that I was on the wrong path. I chose to change direction.
This did not involve Christ or any other religious mechanization, it was a personally spiritual choice, my spirit.
In your case Dex, I am sure you have reached points in your life where you realized the direction you were going, would not lead you to the desired place. So you switched lanes and re-evaluated the course of action. No?
Is that not an action taken by a scientist?
Perhaps as either of you were growing up, you decided that your style, your actions, your way of doing things, wasn't getting you the desired effects. So you modified yourself to suit the needs of your feelings or thoughts. It may have been subconscious and taken sometime to come to froition or an overt act of self realization and instant change.
Could that not be seen as a being "reborn"?
I'm sure my mom would agree. If she had to give birth to me again now, it might hurt ALOT more.
