Hungary may legalize porn involving 14- to 17-year-olds for home use

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BUDAPEST, Hungary (AP) — A bill modifying Hungary's penal code could allow pornographic material involving 14- to 17-year-olds to be made and kept for personal use.
The Justice Ministry said the draft proposal, presented last month by Hungarian Justice Minister Jozsef Petretei, was in line with European Union norms which give members states the right to regulate the issue at national level.
But Opposition lawmakers attacked the proposal as "legalized pedophilia" and a family welfare group described it as "the waiting room of prostitution."
Petretei said Monday that the proposal had taken into account the age in Hungary — 14 — at which consensual sexual relations are allowed.
"If we consider people 14 years of age to be mature enough to consent to sexual acts, then the chance to make picture recordings of this ... can also be allowed," Petretei told lawmakers in parliament.
The minister added that if deputies felt the issue offended their "moral sensitivity," they could propose changes to the bill.
Petretei also said that to bring Hungarian laws in line with EU norms, the ministry was also advocating changes in the same bill which would increase penalties for some other porn-related issues.
The center-right opposition parties strongly criticized the plan.
"This is a scandal," Miklos Soltesz, from the opposition Christian Democratic Peoples Party, told state television. "We initially thought the intention to legalize child pornography was government insanity ... but it seems they're serious."
Idiko Gall Pelcz from Fidesz, the largest center-right opposition party, described the proposal as "legalized pedophilia," calling it "revolting and distressing."
"I can only hope that there will be many of us here in parliament who agree ... that to make pornographic recordings of minors is not part of and not a necessary condition of natural sexual development," Gall Pelcz said in parliament.
A civic group described the plan as "the waiting room of prostitution."
"This goes against common sense and the international rules on children's rights," the Association of Large Families, which represents families with at least three children and claims to be Hungary's largest civic organization, said in a statement.
Gergely Barandy, a deputy from the governing Socialist Party, said one possible solution would be to reject the ministry's proposal relaxing the current law, but to give judges discretion in applying it.
"We would consider it unfair to threaten a 19-year-old person with prison for taking erotic pictures of his 17-year-old wife for their own use," Barandy said in a statement.
The bill — which is part of a longer series of proposed changes to the penal code stretching to 104 pages — says the pornographic material cannot involve people between the ages of 14 and 17 if they are related to or under the care of the person making the recordings.
The participants also must give their consent to the video or photos and the material cannot be made for commercial purposes.
The debate of the bill began in parliament last week and while some speakers mentioned general reservations about the plan, no concrete counterproposals were made.
Parliamentary Speaker Katalin Szili said Monday that the debate of the bill would continue next week.
Changes to the penal code require a simple majority in parliament, so in theory the government parties — which hold 210 of the 386 seats — would have enough votes to approve the proposal.
Changes suggested by lawmakers are voted on separately, so the bill could be approved even if the part in question is rejected.
Currently, Hungarian law says that adults making pornographic materials involving people under the age of 18 can be sentenced to up to two years in prison.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press.

 

hermanntrude

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I expect the reason behind this is money. it'd attract tourism and internet companies in giant quantities. Hungary probably needs money

as for "home use"....hmmm
 

m_levesque

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I expect the reason behind this is money. it'd attract tourism and internet companies in giant quantities. Hungary probably needs money

as for "home use"....hmmm

I wonder if it will have any sort of impact on the rest of the world though? Hungary is hardly in the forefront of the world at the moment.
 

hermanntrude

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I wonder if it will have any sort of impact on the rest of the world though? Hungary is hardly in the forefront of the world at the moment.

well for a start porn sites based in hungary will become surprisingly popular. Still illegal but hard to shut down i expect.
 

wallyj

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In Canada it is legal for a 50 year old man to have sexual relations with a 14 year old as long as he is not in a position of trust.For a real eye-opener google the names Bill Graham and Lawrence Metherel.This is happening in Canada with the full knowledge and implied consent of the liberal party.
 

Colpy

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WOW!

The AVERAGE age for first sexual intercourse is 14.1 years old for boys, and 14.5 years old for girls, according to L. Gilberts' link.

YOUNG!

I was 16.5 years old.............I am now 52, and the girl is my wife. :)
 

L Gilbert

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From the Criminal Code:
Sexual exploitation
153. (1) Every person commits an offence who is in a position of trust or authority towards a young person, who is a person with whom the young person is in a relationship of dependency or who is in a relationship with a young person that is exploitative of the young person, and who

(a) for a sexual purpose, touches, directly or indirectly, with a part of the body or with an object, any part of the body of the young person; or

(b) for a sexual purpose, invites, counsels or incites a young person to touch, directly or indirectly, with a part of the body or with an object, the body of any person, including the body of the person who so invites, counsels or incites and the body of the young person.

Inference of sexual exploitation
...........
(1.2) A judge may infer that a person is in a relationship with a young person that is exploitative of the young person from the nature and circumstances of the relationship, including
(a) the age of the young person;

(b) the age difference between the person and the young person;

(c) the evolution of the relationship; and

(d) the degree of control or influence by the person over the young person.