Human lusts', why does it work against us?

[Minority Observer84]

And true, if one is not grounded on some solid ground, the mind become a glutton for all kinds of beliefs.
I have a firm foundation on my beliefs.

Oh you do ? why didn't you say so what is that "firm Foundation "

It happens that religion promotes the good of the conscience.

Right all the death , torture , oppression and suppression that religion has caused in history that was an accident . Religion is by it's very nature irrational violent and intolerant . You can dress it up anyway you want at the end of the day you still believe that anyone that does not see the world as you do is in for a mighty roasting when they die .

If I could scientifically prove the existence of God, then you would need no faith.

And how terrible rational and easy that would be i can see your point baseless faith is exactly what the world needs.

 

[look3467]

Lets first play with this. Desire is inherant? hmmmm...so it exists on it's own. It's completely independent of other factors...It is inherent...Hogwarsh ..i say ...
How is anything inherent. All depend on other factors. Everything in existence is a coarising coexistant attribute of existance.

show me where it is inherant....nothing is inherant.>>> DocDred




the road to heaven is paved with excess ...Willy babes again...

Inherent is defined as inborn, inbuilt and or natural.

Take a baby, the first thing it wants is to eat. After a few years, it wants everything it sees. In another batch of years its desires are shaped by its environment, the parents teachings and
a conscience that is inbuilt.

This world is a world of want! Show me one person who does not want anything.

There is nothing wrong with desiring or wanting, that is a design feature of the human intelligence.

But to learn how to channel those desires for our own good and for the good of others is the desired effect of being given the gift of intelligence.

If it were not so, then why struggle to even do good?

“…and who pray tell is worthy of telling me how to "manage my desires for the good"......today right now in the living!!!!...”>>>DocDred

There is only one worthy who invites us to do so and that is the Son of the living God.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[Vereya]

Good advice.

All that and leave God out of it: If it were so easy to dispel God out of life, than mankind has been fighting wars needlessly.

For wars are fought because of differences of religious beliefs.

Only states that there must be something to this thing called God in the human experience, wouldn’t you think?
Peace>>>AJ

I have a question - don't you think, that you are overtaxing your God? God is good, and God is great, but don't you think that he deserves a break now and then? When do YOU come into the picture, if all the choices you make depend upon God? Where is your own sense of responsibility? Asking your God to help you in every step that you make can be compared to a forty-year-old man, running to his mother to have his shoe-laces tied. Religion is very important, I totally agree. I am a very relious person myself, in the way of my religion. But there are things that can be helped without the interference of a deity, or deities, and lusts are among them.

 

[look3467]

Oh you do? Why didn't you say so what is that "firm Foundation ">>> Minority Observer84

This foundation is established from the beginning of the world as it exists and forever more.
There is a two part feature to Gods design foundation of humanity and the world.

First the Father God (Yah) named creator of all that exists, and second Yahshua named redeemer of the first creation and finisher of the second.

The creation of the flesh is a worldly creation with all worldly desires as seen as Eve, the weaker vessel. Eve desiring the lusts of the eyes and the desire to know represents the flesh in mankind. (None gender)

Adam is representing the spirit of God in an earthen vessel needing not the desires of the flesh or knowledge, since Adam naming all the animals of the world as representing God.

But because there is a marriage of the spirit and the flesh, meaning death: (Separation) between God and mankind become evident and is in need of redeeming.

God in Jesus is the redeemer of all flesh by God’s use of one body as the redeemer of death souls.

Jesus therefore is my foundation, the rock upon which I stand firm and unmoved.
That is not to say that I condemn all others, but instead as demonstrated by God Himself in Jesus, condemn no one.
No one is going to a burning hell, but while in hell (Earthly life) many will be touched by the spirit of the living God to life, in the present or at death of the body.

Right all the death , torture , oppression and suppression that religion has caused in history that was an accident . Religion is by it's very nature irrational violent and intolerant . You can dress it up anyway you want at the end of the day you still believe that anyone that does not see the world as you do is in for a mighty roasting when they die .>>> Minority Observer84

Religion is what mankind makes it to be that sets parameters, but God does not have parameters but allows us to suffer our own consequences of our learning experiences.

I have learnt by trial and error the mystery of God’s love for all mankind and of which I am able to tolerate all non believers with a heart and mind of compassion.

And how terrible rational and easy that would be i can see your point baseless faith is exactly what the world needs.>>> Minority Observer84

If the world knew Jesus and how He demonstrated God’s love on earth, the world would be won over to love.

God is an option mankind should consider seriously for it’s own benefit.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[look3467]

I have a question - don't you think, that you are overtaxing your God?>>> Vereya

Absolutely not!

If God is the creator of all there is in this vast universe, to find Him over taxed would be an under-statement.
If I were a pebble in the sands of the world’s seas, God would honor my requests according to His will.

God is good, and God is great, but don't you think that he deserves a break now and then?>>> Vereya

God is spirit and there is no tilling of the soil in His kingdom, therefore, tireless.

When do YOU come into the picture, if all the choices you make depend upon God? Where is your own sense of responsibility? Asking your God to help you in every step that you make can be compared to a forty-year-old man, running to his mother to have his shoe-laces tied.>>> Vereya

I came into the picture as soon as I started eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. That would be the age of accountability for me.

And I am responsible for all my own decisions, but in many of them I ask for assistance, and in which He comes to my rescue.

If everyday I should ask for guidance, He promises to deliver as promised.
My growing up in faith is akin to a young man growing up towards maturity.

I am at a stage in my faith now which I feel I have reached a degree of maturity in my beliefs, thanks to all the information available to me.

My thoughts dwell in the spiritual meaning of things in this world though yet I live in the flesh.

Religion is very important, I totally agree. I am a very religious person myself, in the way of my religion. But there are things that can be helped without the interference of a deity, or deities, and lusts are among them.>>> Vereya

I commend you in your faith, and whatever religious faith you profess, but let me add that religion without love is a dead religion as far as God is concerned.

I profess to condemn no one based on what they chose to believe, and could only do it as a mature Christian.

Let us not limit God to our understanding!

Peace>>>AJ