Hugo Chávez visits London

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The Venezuelan President met with London Mayor "Red" Ken Livingstone in Camden yesterday.

Livingstone has a reputaion, just like Galloway, for being an admirer of the world's tyrannical regimes.


The Times May 15, 2006



Hugo Chávez's is watched by Ken Livingstone as he speaks





Chávez fails to paint the town red in Camden
By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor





HUGO CHÁVEZ’S Latin American bandwagon descended on London yesterday, briefly enlivening a dull Sunday in Camden with the sound of drums, the cries of revolution and the waving of banners.

At the start of his controversial two-day visit to London, the Venezuelan President succeeded in attracting an eclectic group of supporters ranging from elderly CND activists to young anti-globalisation campaigners, members of the Socialist Workers’ Party and even the the odd Palestinian protester.

In case there was any doubt about the significance of the “private visit”, as Downing Street has described his very public tour of the capital, Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, told an audience of some 900 supporters that the short, dapper Venezuelan strongman before them was the main figure on the world stage today capable of taking on what he called “the gangster regime” in Washington.

“Those who a decade ago said that socialism was dead, see it now very much alive in Venezuela,” Mr Livingstone said, adding that the march against capitalism was now too strong for America to resist.

“When they predicted the death of socialism they could not have predicted what was to come,” he said. “It is not that socialism failed, it is that socialism has not come.”

Señor Chávez certainly looked the part. Wearing his trademark scarlet tie he exuded confidence before his foreign audience, which included the model-turned activist Bianca Jagger and Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour MP for Islington North, and millions more back home who were being treated to live coverage of the proceedings on Venezuelan state television.

But the content appeared to lack something of the revolutionary fervour that his audience had wanted. There was no mention of Tony Blair or the British Government, who he is deliberately snubbing during his visit.

Instead, the crowd listened bemused as the President practised his rusty schoolboy English, shared with them a Mother’s Day greeting back home and then gave a rambling narrative that ranged from the history of revolution in Latin America to the sausages he had for dinner in Vienna the night before.

This was not the table-thumping call to arms against the Yankees that some in the audience had expected. But if they were disappointed, they did not show it. “Chávez is helping the region to find its voice. It is an incredibly exciting time,” Ellie Kuper-Thomas, a student who plans to take her gap year in Venezuela, said. “There has been so much in the press, both negative and positive, that I wanted to see him for myself.”

George Anthony, a retired engineer, said that he had decided to come to show his support for the Venezuelan leader. “I think Chávez is doing a great job for the people of Venezuela,” he said. “He is showing that socialism works in Latin America and the rest of the world.”

As for the Venezuelan Head of State, he retired to the Savoy and prepared for his whirlwind tour of London today. He will be the guest of honour at City Hall, visit the House of Commons and deliver a speech in Whitehall before departing for Libya to meet his fellow revolutionary, Colonel Gaddafi.

thetimesonline.co.uk
 

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Yes to admire the British First Past the post system I guess would be a little tyrannical, I guess. when you consider that the head of state is not elected and basically is chosen because she was conceived between just the right covers. That the house of lords is largely un-elected and the one body of government which is elected has about 35% of the vote yet controls a magority of the power. Yes I agree with you anyone who admirers the United Kingdom as a Democracy I guess is supporting tyranny, as the peoples vote means little.

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Little saying out there, don't throw stones when you live in a class house.
 

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Blackleaf said:
The Venezuelan President met with London Mayor "Red" Ken Livingstone in Camden yesterday.

Livingstone has a reputaion, just like Galloway, for being an admirer of the world's tyrannical regimes.


The Times May 15, 2006



Hugo Chávez's is watched by Ken Livingstone as he speaks





Chávez fails to paint the town red in Camden
By Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor





HUGO CHÁVEZ’S Latin American bandwagon descended on London yesterday, briefly enlivening a dull Sunday in Camden with the sound of drums, the cries of revolution and the waving of banners.

At the start of his controversial two-day visit to London, the Venezuelan President succeeded in attracting an eclectic group of supporters ranging from elderly CND activists to young anti-globalisation campaigners, members of the Socialist Workers’ Party and even the the odd Palestinian protester.

In case there was any doubt about the significance of the “private visit”, as Downing Street has described his very public tour of the capital, Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, told an audience of some 900 supporters that the short, dapper Venezuelan strongman before them was the main figure on the world stage today capable of taking on what he called “the gangster regime” in Washington.

“Those who a decade ago said that socialism was dead, see it now very much alive in Venezuela,” Mr Livingstone said, adding that the march against capitalism was now too strong for America to resist.

“When they predicted the death of socialism they could not have predicted what was to come,” he said. “It is not that socialism failed, it is that socialism has not come.”

Señor Chávez certainly looked the part. Wearing his trademark scarlet tie he exuded confidence before his foreign audience, which included the model-turned activist Bianca Jagger and Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour MP for Islington North, and millions more back home who were being treated to live coverage of the proceedings on Venezuelan state television.

But the content appeared to lack something of the revolutionary fervour that his audience had wanted. There was no mention of Tony Blair or the British Government, who he is deliberately snubbing during his visit.

Instead, the crowd listened bemused as the President practised his rusty schoolboy English, shared with them a Mother’s Day greeting back home and then gave a rambling narrative that ranged from the history of revolution in Latin America to the sausages he had for dinner in Vienna the night before.

This was not the table-thumping call to arms against the Yankees that some in the audience had expected. But if they were disappointed, they did not show it. “Chávez is helping the region to find its voice. It is an incredibly exciting time,” Ellie Kuper-Thomas, a student who plans to take her gap year in Venezuela, said. “There has been so much in the press, both negative and positive, that I wanted to see him for myself.”

George Anthony, a retired engineer, said that he had decided to come to show his support for the Venezuelan leader. “I think Chávez is doing a great job for the people of Venezuela,” he said. “He is showing that socialism works in Latin America and the rest of the world.”

As for the Venezuelan Head of State, he retired to the Savoy and prepared for his whirlwind tour of London today. He will be the guest of honour at City Hall, visit the House of Commons and deliver a speech in Whitehall before departing for Libya to meet his fellow revolutionary, Colonel Gaddafi.

thetimesonline.co.uk
Commie Tyrant Hugo Chávez getting his ass kissed by a couple of Commie Sympathizers. Who would have thought?
 

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May 15, 2006
Venezuela Deserves the Support of All Those Who Believe in Democracy and Social Justice

Welcome to London, President Chavez!

By KEN LIVINGSTONE

President Hugo Chávez of Venezuela will today become the second head of state--after the Queen--to be welcomed to London's City Hall. When it comes to the social transformation taking place in Venezuela, the political qualifications often necessary in our imperfect world can be set aside. It is crystal clear on which side right and justice lies. For many years people have demanded that social progress and democracy go hand in hand, and that is exactly what is now taking place in Venezuela.

It therefore deserves the unequivocal support of not only every supporter of social progress but every genuine believer in democracy in the world.

Venezuela is a state of huge oil wealth that was hitherto scarcely used to benefit the population. Now, for the first time in a country of over 25 million people, a functioning health service is being built. Seventeen million people have been given access to free healthcare for the first time in their lives. Illiteracy has been eliminated. Fifteen million people have been given access to food, medicines and other essential products at affordable prices. A quarter of a million eye operations have been financed to rescue people from blindness. These are extraordinary practical achievements.

Little wonder, then, that Chávez and his supporters have won 10 elections in eight years. These victories were achieved despite a private media largely controlled by opponents of the government. Yet Chávez's visit has been met with absurd claims from rightwing activists that he is some kind of dictator.

The opponents of democracy are those who orchestrated a coup against Chávez, captured on film in the extraordinary documentary The Revolution Will Not Be Televised. It is a film that literally changes lives. By chance, a TV crew was in the presidential palace when the military coup of April 2002 against Chávez took place. It captured minute by minute the events that unfolded.

Anti-Chávez gunmen, in league with the coup organisers, opened fire on a pro-Chávez demonstration. As guns are commonplace in Venezuela, some in the crowd returned fire. US television stations manipulated these images by editing out the gunfire aimed at the pro- Chávez crowd to claim that anti-Chavez demonstrators had been attacked.

A million people took to the streets of Caracas to demand Chávez's release. The moment when the army deserted the coup leaders and went over to support the demonstrators is shown on film.

It is a sign of how little David Cameron's Conservative party has changed that London Tories are boycotting today's meeting with Chávez. This contrasts, of course, with the Tories' longstanding feting of the murdering torturer General Augusto Pinochet. To justify their position they ludicrously compare Chávez to Stalin. Sometimes it is necessary to choose the lesser of two evils. Britain fought with Stalin against Hitler. But with Chávez the choice is not difficult at all. He is both carrying out a progressive programme and doing so through the mandate of the ballot box.

George Bush's refusal to respect the choices of the Venezuelan people shows that his administration has no real interest in promoting democracy at all.

Not since the 1973 coup that brought Pinochet to power have people faced a clearer or more important international choice. In Venezuela millions are struggling to take their country out of poverty. They are doing so by means that are among the most democratic in the world. Both are inspiring.

Today Venezuela is being opposed largely on the basis of lies. We have to make sure Venezuelans have to face nothing worse. It is the duty of all people who support progress, justice and democracy to stand with Venezuela.

Ken Livingstone is the mayor of London. He can be reached at: mayor@london.gov.uk
 

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Johnny Utah said:
Blackleaf said:
The Venezuelan President met with London Mayor "Red" Ken Livingstone in Camden yesterday.

Livingstone has a reputaion, just like Galloway, for being an admirer of the world's tyrannical regimes.


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Chavez is a leader who has balls, period, there is just nothing to add, i like him, because he support the poor, something that your governemeent doesnt have, for the balls and the support.
 

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Venezuela Deserves the Support of All Those Who Believe in Democracy and Social Justice

Well then that does it...I know longer support Democracy and Social justice if that is what they call that crap Chavez does.
 

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RE: Hugo Chávez visits Lo

Chavez feeds and educates the people, they have better medicine and education than Americans, that's his crime, nothing more than that, and that terrifies the rotten rich.
 

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RE: Hugo Chávez visits Lo

Yeah and putting people in jail that don't agree with him. There's democracy :roll: Anywho if you love Chavez so much, move to Venezuela. This Canadian sure wouldn't mind losing the dead weight of this nation.
 

darkbeaver

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RE: Hugo Chávez visits Lo

It's my country, you leave, go live with your yankee buddies, they have the highest level of incarceration on the planet wadnik. Some day soon we'll have a Primeminister just like Chavez. Hey Mogz you're scared of commies aren't ya hahahahahahaha check under your bed tonight hahahahaha
 

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RE: Hugo Chávez visits Lo

I'm just saying, you bitch about Canada or some semblance thereof every 4.2 minutes, so I figured you'd be happier down there with Saint Hugo. As for the U.S. and their incarceration, I highly doubt they're got the highest my friend. Fiurthermore, the U.S. doesn't just lock up people on a whim, as deal old Chavez does. Hell, Chavez isn't even that bad when compared to Haiti, or Iran. Once again, useless bullshit "facts" a la beaver. Way to keep setting that bar :)
 

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Red Ken said:
“When they predicted the death of socialism they could not have predicted what was to come,” he said. “It is not that socialism failed, it is that socialism has not come.”

Proving yet again that...

... in the introduction to Reflections on Violence, Sorel says that the French thinker Renan "was very surprised to discover that Socialists are beyond discouragement." He then quotes Renan's comment about the indefatigable perseverance of socialists: "After each abortive experiment they recommence their work: the solution is not yet found, but it will be. The idea that no solution exists never occurs to them, and in this lies their strength." (Italics mine.)

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=050506I

Classic.
 

aeon

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Mogz said:
Yeah and putting people in jail that don't agree with him. There's democracy :roll: Anywho if you love Chavez so much, move to Venezuela. This Canadian sure wouldn't mind losing the dead weight of this nation.


Strangely something similar happened in united states, someone talks against bush administration in a GYM, saying the bush administration are terrrorist, the same night he received visit from the FBI, very well documented in F-9-11 by micheal moore.
 

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It seems you cons, or rotten rich people forget about the people who tried to overthrow the democratically elected leader. Hugo Chavez!

So they can overthrow him and he can't them and have people power.

Oh wait, I forgot, the right-wingers do not want people power.
 

Jay

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Jersay, Chevez did the exact same thing did he not?
 

Jersay

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I agree. He did. It is a fact, and if he came about in a coup I wouldn't support him.

However, he spent time in prison and then he was elected in a democratic election, and is alot better then what was before him and the opposition parties who can't get support to defeat him in democratic elections so they decide to boycott them so America can support them. The right of Venezuela is alot worst than what Hugo Chavez is.