How will a Conservative government be better?

[bluealberta]

THERE WAS NO REASON, THERE WERE ENOUGH PROGRAMS IN PLACE.

Which is why most of Canada was up in arms demanding that something be done.

No, only those in the East, but then for you, that is Canada.

BTW, folks, the Rev thinks the CBC is a right wing media outlet, so saying that the Liberals are right wing fits into his extreme left viewpoint nicely.

Not exactly the way I'd put it, but then Ralph gave all the money to the oil companies instead of putting it into education so I guess we'll just have to accept your ignorance.

Better check again, Rev, Alberta has the highest education standards and success in Canada. Comes from having such bright people out here.

Regarding gun control, which I agree with, by the way, just not this version which was unncessary and expensive, the main argument about gun control is that we "don't want to be like the big bad US"

No, actually. The main point was that there were Canadians being killed by guns.

No, actually. One lone nut caused this. Killings by guns in Canada is extremely low.

The NW US states have a much higher level of gun ownership than the Candian Prairies.

You should have a look comparing populated areas. Try NY and TO. Detroit and Windsor. Vancouver and Seattle. If you get to pick an and choose, so do we.

So, to say that higher gun ownership leads to higher crime, at least in our part of the world, is untrue.

Name a city in Montana as big as Calgary. Edmonton? Regina? Guess what? Winnipeg has a higher crime rate than Bugfuck, North Dakota. So what?

So, Seattle, Spokane, they don't count? The point was that the comparsion was between same demographics, location, etc. Go ahead and make your comparison, get if from the Parliamentary Libray.

Supper is done. Guns don't kill people, morons with guns kill people.

But even morons can kill people without guns, and morons without ethics, morals, comptence, or tolerance can kill countries, as the left in Canada is proving on a daily basis. And yes, I consider the Liberals and the NDP to be on the left side of the polictical spectrum, as does the majority of Canadians.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

Are the mushrooms back in season already?

 

[SirKevin]

But even morons can kill people without guns, and morons without ethics, morals, comptence, or tolerance can kill countries, as the left in Canada is proving on a daily basis. And yes, I consider the Liberals and the NDP to be on the left side of the polictical spectrum, as does the majority of Canadians.

Most people -- including Liberals themselves -- consider the party to be centrist.

 

[bluealberta]

But even morons can kill people without guns, and morons without ethics, morals, comptence, or tolerance can kill countries, as the left in Canada is proving on a daily basis. And yes, I consider the Liberals and the NDP to be on the left side of the polictical spectrum, as does the majority of Canadians.

Most people -- including Liberals themselves -- consider the party to be centrist.

Yes, left centrist just as the conservatives are right centrist. Their tax and spend programs put them on the left.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

There is nothing centrist about the current right in Canadian politics, Blue. You guys are radicals. nut bags. THE lunatic fringe. Mussolini was a centrist compared to you. At least have the courage to admit what you are. All it it takes is a little spine.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

There is nothing centrist about the current right in Canadian politics, Blue. You guys are radicals. nut bags. THE lunatic fringe. Mussolini was a centrist compared to you. At least have the courage to admit what you are. All it it takes is a little spine.

Fortunately, most people are more centered than you. I understand from your extreme looney left position that anything would be on the right, so you just go ahead with your little delusions.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

Look at your proposed policies. Nothing multilateral...all bilateral with the US. Nothing for Canada without paying homage to Bush and his PNAC buddies.

Look at your politicians. Hell, look at your leader. These people are radicals, Blue. Neo-conservatives of the far right fringe. Corporatists who do not believe in democracy. Religious zealots who would ram their religious beliefs down our throats.

Your proposed platform in the last election was the most expensive of any of the parties running. You planned to pay for that by cutting taxes, especially to the rich and to corporations. It's those kinds of policies that have driven the US to record deficits and out of control debt.

 

[LadyC]

Look at your proposed policies. Nothing multilateral...all bilateral with the US. Nothing for Canada without paying homage to Bush and his PNAC buddies.

Look at your politicians. Hell, look at your leader. These people are radicals, Blue. Neo-conservatives of the far right fringe. Corporatists who do not believe in democracy. Religious zealots who would ram their religious beliefs down our throats.

Say "hi" to the king for me, will ya?

And if you meet up with Foxy Loxy on your way, don't trust him.

 

[Scape]

What policies on the Conservative platform are considered centrist?

 

[Reverend Blair]

What policies on the Conservative platform are considered centrist?

Not a single one, Scape.

 

[badboy]

What policies on the Conservative platform are considered centrist?

Not a single one, Scape.

Who cares, who's to say everything has to be left of center YOU ,well unless your running it don't count.

What the Liberal Party of Canada has brought us:


Adscam and shame;
Age of consent law that leaves children and teens vulnerable to sexual predators;
Air force - with obsolete planes and helicopters that fall from the sky;
Ant-Americanism – stark, ugly ad hominem attacks by government officials;
Army – proud sentinels of liberty reduced to ruin;
Attacks on Christians and more shame;
Bilingualism; under which nine provinces and the Territories remain unilingual;
Biculturalism; replace by multiculturalism which also does not work;
Budgets - that are meaningless unreadable propaganda;
Business welfare;
Canada Post – an arm’s length (sometimes) agency that is constitutionally invalid;
Character assassination of errant bureaucrats;
Challenger jets to ferry the PM – the name says it all;
Coast guard – without crews or fuel for patrols;
Corruption; on a grander scale than ever before;
Cost overruns on almost every thing they touch;
Country club prisons for the honesty challenged;
Criminal court back-logs that impede justice;
Destruction of our costal fisheries;
Dithering - governance by polls and special interest groups;
Divorce Act amendments – designed to keep divorced dads in perpetual poverty;
Elimination of ethics in representation;
Elimination of morality in governance;
Employment insurance fraud;
Fiscal irresponsibility; they could not produce books to justify HRDC spending;
Foreign aid to a superpower such as China;
GST expansion in place of promised scrapping;
Gun registry; an expensive offence to law abiding citizens;
Health care waiting lists;
Hepatitis C Victims - many of whom are still waiting compensation for illness incurred to government bungling;
HRDC scandals - courtesy of expendable Jane Stewart, AKA fall girl;
Illegal immigrants – 600,000 of whom are ‘whereabouts unknown’;
Interference in alleged ‘arms length’ agencies – Via Rail, RCMP, BDB, Canada Post;
Isolation and degradation of Aboriginals;
Judicial activism - judges writing law rather than interpreting and applying law;
Kyoto - socialism on a world scale;
Law written by an activist, appointed judiciary;
Lending public fund to foreign nations to buy wares from industry on business welfare;
Liberanos – an organized crime ring in government with a secret membership;
Memorial services for terrorist victims without a religious element;
Military hospital closures - despite a constitutional obligation to take care of the military and veterans;
Military veterans as victims of abuse and neglect;
Money laundering – on a grand scale;
Mugging disabled people - by arbitrarily removing tax breaks to help them cope with increased costs of their disabilities;
Navy – with expensive submarines that can’t submerge and catch fire;
Ottawa in disrepute and disgrace;
Orders in Council that by-pass Parliament;
Peppergate - questionable use of force to protect a visiting tin pot dictator;
Pension claw-backs and theft from seniors;
Pollution and refusal to clean up after themselves;
Pornography as an art form;
Prime Minister’s Office unaccountable to Parliament and the public;
Prison Inmate voting;
Privy Council – converted to a training ground for Liberanos;
Publicly funded abortion on demand;
Same-sex marriage – for those who are morally challenged;
Secularism – and the ease of not having standards to meet;
Separatism – we all want to separate from the Liberanos;
Shiwinigate - and additions to the prosperity of Liberanos friends;
Soiled Dove and Consort – disgrace to the GG’s office;
Somalia scandal - and an inquiry that was cut short when government officials were implicated;
Strippergate by Sgro – enslavement of immigrants;
Tainted blood scandal - importing tainted blood from US prisons.
Tattoo parlours for prison inmates at an initial cost of $700,000;
Taxation on taxation - for example applying the GST to excise taxes on gasoline;
Theft of the month club – and numerous deserving contenders;
Third gender recognition – as artificial and dishonest as the Liberanos;
Trade policy that works against Canadian business;
Tribunals of appointees accountable to no one;
Undermining of Parliamentary democracy;
Whipped votes on issues of conscience;
Women’s Prisons – at a cost of $132,000 per prisoner per year and rising;
Yuletide greetings that avoid all connection with Christ and Christians;
Zero tolerance for those who criticize Liberals.

This was not mine but it sure fits the party of rape and lie.

 

[I think not]

Dam what a mouthful that was

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

I'm not a Liberal supporter...they are far closer to the Conservatives in policy than they should be. Most of that is a load of crap though, I think not. Where did you C&P that from, Badboy...A Reformatory talking points pamphlet?

 

[I think not]

Perhaps it is Rev, I didn't dispute that, I still thought it was a mouthful

 

[badboy]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

I'm not a Liberal supporter...they are far closer to the Conservatives in policy than they should be. Most of that is a load of crap though, I think not. Where did you C&P that from, Badboy...A Reformatory talking points pamphlet?

I hack into the Liberal party server, it was marked " Things not to talk about bacause it's so true" go figure.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

You still haven't listed a Conservative platform plank that isn't radically right-wing, btw.

 

[badboy]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

You still haven't listed a Conservative platform plank that isn't radically right-wing, btw.

So what, if it was a left sided platform it would be from the Liberals now wouldn't it.

Right is right, left is so passe.

Time for the people of Canada to wakeup and start thinking for themselves and let the government run the country as a business and not a welfare state.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: How will a Conservati

So put up the policies. You know...the ones that the majority of Canadians do not agree with.

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: How will a Conservati

Look at your proposed policies. Nothing multilateral...all bilateral with the US. Nothing for Canada without paying homage to Bush and his PNAC buddies.

Not true at all. Your policies want to align us with the UN which is under investigatation for fraud in the Food for Oil crap, and wants to put Libya in charge of the Human Rights commission. I'll take the US who is always first to help anyone (See recent earthquake/tsnumai (SP?)) over any of the tinpot dictators running the UN these days. You want to sell us out to the UN. I prefer the US.

Look at your politicians. Hell, look at your leader. These people are radicals, Blue. Neo-conservatives of the far right fringe. Corporatists who do not believe in democracy. Religious zealots who would ram their religious beliefs down our throats.

Wrong again. The left doesn't believe in democracy, Harper has promissed free votes in Parliament, no other party has. Corporations and small business generate jobs, social programs do not. And since when is actually having morals defined as being a zealot? If you actually looked at the platform of the conservatives, you would see it is right centrist. Fiscally responsible social programs are preferred by the right instead of social engineering social programs, that are costly and ineffective.And while we're looking at leaders, the NDP and the Liberal leader are fine examples of what leaders should be in this country, aren't they. Crooks with no integrity or morals for the liberals and spend without consequence for the NDP leader. Both are morally bankrupt.

Your proposed platform in the last election was the most expensive of any of the parties running. You planned to pay for that by cutting taxes, especially to the rich and to corporations. It's those kinds of policies that have driven the US to record deficits and out of control debt.

And the current deal with the NDP for the $4.6 billion now takes the current budget over what the conservatives proposed a year ago. Yet you continue to define the middle class as rich (don't deny it, you posted in on two other posts) who need more taxes. More taxes to corporations who produce our goods only increases the net cost to consumers at the end of the food chain. Your plans cost all of us. Sorry, put more money back in my pockets so I can make decisions on how I can spend my money.

The trouble with the left is they think there has to be regulations on virtually every part of our lives from cradle to grave, with total reliance on big brother sitting in Ottawa. The right, on the other hand, encourages personal initiative, and accept the consequensces of both success and failure. Personal responsibility and accountability are the conerstones of conservative policies, while abdicating responsibility and accountability to the government are the cornerstones of the lefts policies.

 

[bluealberta]

What policies on the Conservative platform are considered centrist?

Not a single one, Scape.

Who cares, who's to say everything has to be left of center YOU ,well unless your running it don't count.

What the Liberal Party of Canada has brought us:


Adscam and shame;
Age of consent law that leaves children and teens vulnerable to sexual predators;
Air force - with obsolete planes and helicopters that fall from the sky;
Ant-Americanism – stark, ugly ad hominem attacks by government officials;
Army – proud sentinels of liberty reduced to ruin;
Attacks on Christians and more shame;
Bilingualism; under which nine provinces and the Territories remain unilingual;
Biculturalism; replace by multiculturalism which also does not work;
Budgets - that are meaningless unreadable propaganda;
Business welfare;
Canada Post – an arm’s length (sometimes) agency that is constitutionally invalid;
Character assassination of errant bureaucrats;
Challenger jets to ferry the PM – the name says it all;
Coast guard – without crews or fuel for patrols;
Corruption; on a grander scale than ever before;
Cost overruns on almost every thing they touch;
Country club prisons for the honesty challenged;
Criminal court back-logs that impede justice;
Destruction of our costal fisheries;
Dithering - governance by polls and special interest groups;
Divorce Act amendments – designed to keep divorced dads in perpetual poverty;
Elimination of ethics in representation;
Elimination of morality in governance;
Employment insurance fraud;
Fiscal irresponsibility; they could not produce books to justify HRDC spending;
Foreign aid to a superpower such as China;
GST expansion in place of promised scrapping;
Gun registry; an expensive offence to law abiding citizens;
Health care waiting lists;
Hepatitis C Victims - many of whom are still waiting compensation for illness incurred to government bungling;
HRDC scandals - courtesy of expendable Jane Stewart, AKA fall girl;
Illegal immigrants – 600,000 of whom are ‘whereabouts unknown’;
Interference in alleged ‘arms length’ agencies – Via Rail, RCMP, BDB, Canada Post;
Isolation and degradation of Aboriginals;
Judicial activism - judges writing law rather than interpreting and applying law;
Kyoto - socialism on a world scale;
Law written by an activist, appointed judiciary;
Lending public fund to foreign nations to buy wares from industry on business welfare;
Liberanos – an organized crime ring in government with a secret membership;
Memorial services for terrorist victims without a religious element;
Military hospital closures - despite a constitutional obligation to take care of the military and veterans;
Military veterans as victims of abuse and neglect;
Money laundering – on a grand scale;
Mugging disabled people - by arbitrarily removing tax breaks to help them cope with increased costs of their disabilities;
Navy – with expensive submarines that can’t submerge and catch fire;
Ottawa in disrepute and disgrace;
Orders in Council that by-pass Parliament;
Peppergate - questionable use of force to protect a visiting tin pot dictator;
Pension claw-backs and theft from seniors;
Pollution and refusal to clean up after themselves;
Pornography as an art form;
Prime Minister’s Office unaccountable to Parliament and the public;
Prison Inmate voting;
Privy Council – converted to a training ground for Liberanos;
Publicly funded abortion on demand;
Same-sex marriage – for those who are morally challenged;
Secularism – and the ease of not having standards to meet;
Separatism – we all want to separate from the Liberanos;
Shiwinigate - and additions to the prosperity of Liberanos friends;
Soiled Dove and Consort – disgrace to the GG’s office;
Somalia scandal - and an inquiry that was cut short when government officials were implicated;
Strippergate by Sgro – enslavement of immigrants;
Tainted blood scandal - importing tainted blood from US prisons.
Tattoo parlours for prison inmates at an initial cost of $700,000;
Taxation on taxation - for example applying the GST to excise taxes on gasoline;
Theft of the month club – and numerous deserving contenders;
Third gender recognition – as artificial and dishonest as the Liberanos;
Trade policy that works against Canadian business;
Tribunals of appointees accountable to no one;
Undermining of Parliamentary democracy;
Whipped votes on issues of conscience;
Women’s Prisons – at a cost of $132,000 per prisoner per year and rising;
Yuletide greetings that avoid all connection with Christ and Christians;
Zero tolerance for those who criticize Liberals.

This was not mine but it sure fits the party of rape and lie.

This was just too good not to repeat. This is the party that wants us to trust them and indeed, vote them back in because they are so good for us. No wonder Quebec wants to leave.