How many liberals are killing..

Kreskin

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F the abortion issue, this is about the morons around the planet ruining it.

It has been a long time since I woke this pissed about GWB. Yes, HE is personally responsible for the disaster called the ME. That Liar in Chief doesn't have enough brains to work in a post office let alone oval office.

I can't wait for November, when the Americans collectively punt the republican idiots out of congress. They and Moron have screwed this planet up enough.
 

gopher

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I know not all liberals support this, so save your "generalization" comments but, by supporting Roe vs Wade is the U.S. , share a part of the blame for the deaths of 47,282,923 babies. So. Looks like the liberals are winning on the body count. Good game, fellas!

Or am I just trolling?





And it was a Republican majority that ruled that way in Roe vs Wade and in Casey so that, again, it was Republicans who legalized abortion.

Once again, Democrats get blamed for the problems caused by Republicans.
 

Maggiemygosh

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When Trudeau the communist took over the leadrship of the Lieberals we had a national debt of $2.89 Billion. When he was done it was $493Billion. He brought communism into this country big time aka The Charter of No rights or Freedoms, corruption , lying, cheating, allowing terrorists and criminals to enter this country without any problems, took control of the Communist Broadcasting Castration in Hogtowm, as well as National Newspapers in order to LIE to the public which they have, allowed illegal immigrants and refugees to vote for the Lieberals or be deported, allowed over 100,000 Tamil Tigers a world wide terrorist organization to enter and live in Scarborough and Paul Martin went to a fund raising dinner for them as the guest speaker in spite of warnings by the RCMP & CSIS and they raised $55,000 and Chretien the crook and world wide LIAR even made things worse.

So the Lieberals are responsible for murder, drug lords, rapists, terrorists and fundrasiers for terrorism here in Canada. In case you don't know the Tamil Tigers send the money raised in GTA to a bank overseas and a representative of theirs uses the moneys to buy explosives, guns ammunition and rockets to kill civilians in Sri Lanka.

Nice eh ?

Lieberals do not like facts or truth so they go into denial and lie like sidewalks about the Tories.

The stench from that sect is worse than the crap in the sewers of Hogtown.
 

BitWhys

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accumulated debt fiscal year 1967-1968 (leadership and first year as PM) = $18,750B
accumulated debt fiscal 1983-1984 (finished as PM) = $157,252B

note to self: the truth isn't good enough for some people.
 

Kreskin

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Look at the baloney stretching. You could make alot of sandwiches. If the expansion of national debt is supposed to be a war crimes measure then Shrub is the champion of champions.
 

Maggiemygosh

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The ADM of Finance who was a friend of mine and passed away last year had to brief that commie Trudeau on a regular basis which he hated to do and the real number of our National Debt rose to $493 Billion.

This ADM knew the truth and facts. Trudeau didn't give a rats ass about the debt and neither did his Cabinet Ministers including idiots like Chretien, Caplan and Martin. Corrupt is a kind word to describe them.
 

BitWhys

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If the Assistant Deputy Minister was a friend of yours and couldn't get the DoF to straighten out the books after all this time we really are in sorry shape on both accounts.

thanks for the update.
 

gc

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RE: How many liberals are

Thank you BitWhys for providing accurate facts (unlike those of maggiemygosh).

Debt when Trudeau started: approx 20 billion
Debt when Trudeau ended: approx 200 billion
Debt when Mulroney started: approx 200 billion
Debt when Mulroney ended: approx 500 billion

So Trudeau AND Mulroney are to blame. And why are you blaming Chretien and Martin? They were the first in a long time to balance the books and actually pay down some debt.
 

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Maggiemygosh said:
The ADM of Finance who was a friend of mine and passed away last year had to brief that commie Trudeau on a regular basis which he hated to do and the real number of our National Debt rose to $493 Billion.

This ADM knew the truth and facts. Trudeau didn't give a rats ass about the debt and neither did his Cabinet Ministers including idiots like Chretien, Caplan and Martin. Corrupt is a kind word to describe them.

Trudeau didn't give a rat's ass about damn near everything. That's what made him such a great prime minister.

In Quebec they flung debris at him. His response? I don't give a rat's ass.

And the strikers that he told to eat merde?

Oh, and the constant finger gesturing, if you know what I mean.

Yeah, I'd say that Trudeau was a prime minister that didn't give a rat's ass about too damn much. He had his agenda, and if you didn't fit into his agenda, you could eat merde.
 

EastSideScotian

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Re: RE: How many liberals are killing..

Kreskin said:
It would be a novel idea to someone who thinks the world is a simple Bush-like place, where you're either an evil-doer or a God-fearing christian. Only a rightwinger wouldn't think past his/her nose on the issue.
Thats just great, So your saying killing a living child is thinking past your nose on the issue?

Thinking past your nose would be, realizing what you have done and taking responsibility for the issue, not killing it and going on with your life, thats a cowardly and easy thing to do, then again Liberals are usally all for the easy way to do things.
 

gopher

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Once again, right wingers blame libs for the problems caused by the reichsters. Wars, indebtedness, abortion - all caused by the right but somehow they persist in blaming everyone else. And we have had numerous threads on this forum where this pattern has been repeated: the rightists make a false accusation and it is easily refuted. Do you think there will ever be a time when the right wingers will admit that it is their politcal heroes who are the problem?????
 

Maggiemygosh

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It has always been the lefty idiots who start the armed conflicts because of a total lack of common sense and stupidity.

So lets have a short look : Russia - Lenin and Josef Stalin Communist lefty idiots who murdered millions

Germany : Adolf Hitler who was a real lefty socialist pig and he ordered the murdering of over 6 million Jews

Pierre Elliot Trudeau: Wife beater and communist pig. He used Lenins doctrine for the Charter of Rights and Fredom which ended up with no rights and freedoms for honest Canadians but the corrupt sobs did well including our prisoners in jail. This commie nerd destroyed our military along with Chretien the crook and Martin the cheating lying piece of horse crap. In short Canada ended up with thousands upon thousands of terrorists such as Tamil Tigers, drug lords, rapists, murderers etal because Elinor Caplan another idiot lefty Fiberal ordered external affairs & immigration to allow 250,000 immigrants/refugees a year into Canada without security or background checks. Get ready for the new battlefield.

Lefties are always at the root of war situations. They will never ever learn.

:evil:
 

BitWhys

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Maggiemygosh said:
Germany : Adolf Hitler who was a real lefty socialist pig and he ordered the murdering of over 6 million Jews

oh lemmee guess. JJ Ray? try starting with Hayek. at least he's REALLY dead, too.

:spam1:
 

gopher

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RE: How many liberals are

We have previously discussed on numerous threads the fact that it was Republican Herbert Hoover that financed Stalin {op cit} and Republican Prescott Bush who financed Hitler {again, op cit}. I'm not going to bother posting them again because history is only too clear that it is Republicans who financed political extremism and genocide whether through war or abortion.
 

gc

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Maggiemygosh said:
It has always been the lefty idiots who start the armed conflicts because of a total lack of common sense and stupidity.

So lets have a short look : Russia - Lenin and Josef Stalin Communist lefty idiots who murdered millions

Germany : Adolf Hitler who was a real lefty socialist pig and he ordered the murdering of over 6 million Jews

Lenin and Stalin may have been economically left-wing, but on the libertarian scale they were very much authoritative. It was their authoritative ideology that caused them to kill millions. Don't confuse left-wing/right-wing with libertarian/authoritative.

Pierre Elliot Trudeau: Wife beater and communist pig. He used Lenins doctrine for the Charter of Rights and Fredom which ended up with no rights and freedoms for honest Canadians but the corrupt sobs did well including our prisoners in jail.
:evil:

The Charter of Rights and Freedoms applies to, and protects, all Canadians. So, why do you say there are no rights and freedoms for honest Canadians?
 

Lineman

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So, just to balance the discussion;
How many liberal goverments stood by and did nothing when wars and atrocities were happening
Rwanda - Chretien, Clinton
Yugoslavia - same as above
others?
 

gc

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Re: RE: How many liberals are killing..

Lineman said:
So, just to balance the discussion;
How many liberal goverments stood by and did nothing when wars and atrocities were happening
Rwanda - Chretien, Clinton
Yugoslavia - same as above
others?

Not to mention FDR and WWII.
It seems that most governments only do what is in the best interest of their country, not what is in the best interest of the rest of the world.
 

humanbeing

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Kreskin said:
Liberals have gotten a bad name via propoganda of the rightwing nuts, but I can't think of any who are starting wars, creating genocide, bombing civilians, bombing towers, blowing themselves up, torturing prisoners, torturing fellow countrymen, spreading religious hate, being dictators, or publicly executing people.

Of course all of the world's problems have been caused by Jimmy Carter. :wink:

Well, I can name some liberals/mainstream leftists to the contrary...

Just look at the Vietnam war for at least one example.

A lot of people in the mainstream left and right of American politics (just picking the most obvious and prominent batch of cases as it's easiest to draw examples from) are responsible for allowing for, or starting, wars (more accurately state terrorism in most cases).

I think lots of US heads of state and executives, liberal or not, can be found guilty of such things. It's not as simple as being a matter of left or right, peaceful or warring.

If it does not appear to be so, it might be partly because liberal leaders have to appeal to their constituencies (with words mostly, not with actions). A significant number of these constituencies may be more in favour of peaceful solutions and what not (or at least, generally more difficult to convince that hostile actions are necessary), so it's important to come off sounding agreeable to them in some way if you wish to keep their vote.
 

humanbeing

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Maggiemygosh said:
When Trudeau the communist...

Trudeau was not a communist. Not in the original sense, and not in the state capitalist monopoly dictatorship sense of the word (like Soviet Russia).