how long will the EU stay in E?

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Canada would be better off in the on its own or as a US state, NOT an EU state. The US is a democracy, and it's growing. The EU is slowly shrinking.

Blackleaf: This is the most absurd thing I've EVER heard in my entire life. You obviously live in an upside-down world.

Are you a Queen loyalist??? Or what? The European Union is the future. There's nothing any loyalists or Americans can do to stop it.

So it's shrinking? What about the new 10 member states?

This statement is what made me see what agenda you are really pushing and how really informed you are. I have not read the majority of your articles, but this short and simple thread puts it right out there.
 

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Numure said:
Blackleaf said:
Canada would be better off in the on its own or as a US state, NOT an EU state. The US is a democracy, and it's growing. The EU is slowly shrinking.

You truly are an idiot.

I could not have said it better than myself :p
 

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Numure wrote:
Blackleaf wrote:
Canada would be better off in the on its own or as a US state, NOT an EU state. The US is a democracy, and it's growing. The EU is slowly shrinking.


You truly are an idiot.


I could not have said it better than myself .

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No I'm not. America has a growing population, whereas the EU's is shrinking. America, by 2030, will have retained its current share of the world economy, whereas the EU's share of the world economy will have HALVED. France, Germany and Italy are stagnant economies. Britain is growing, and will soon overtake Germany to become Europe's largest economy and the only European country to still be a member of the G8 in 2050. The US currently has a smaller population than the EU, BUT its population will soon be larger than the EU, because the EU's population is shrinking, partly because it has a very old population, whereas America has a relatively young one. The US will soon have a larger population than the EU even if the EU covered ALL of Europe and also had Russia as a member state.

France, Germany and Italy ave shrinking populations and shrinking workforces. Italy's population is now 57 million, but by 2020 it will only be 44 million. In that time period, Britain's is expected to grow from 60 million to 65 million. Britain is also the only large European country whose workforce is growing. The Anglo-Saxon economies of America, Britain, Canada and Australia are outperforming Europe, especially France, Germany and Italy. britain is currently Europe's most successful economy.
 

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Believe it or not, over the course of this century, the US will become MORE dominant in the world than it is now.

The EU will have faded into nothingness.
 

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But Britain was once the "sick man" of Europe. Britain is the one that came back from having Europe's highest inflation and slowest-growing economy, to having Europe's lowest inflations and fastest growing LARGE economies. The UK will soon be Europe's largest economy, and the ONLY European country to still be a member of the G7 group of world's most industrialised nations.
 

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In fact, out of the original 15 EU countries, I think only Britain, Ireland and Luxembourg had growing populations.
 

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I'm confused. According to the Human Development Index (UN), the GDP (in US Dollars) of the UK in 2002 was $26.150, compared to $27.100 in Germany, $26.920 in France and $26.430 in Italy. Can numbers change so much in less than two years? (I mean, if you take the numbers of the IMF, the GDP of the UK has increased by $4.000 in less than two years). How can this be explained? Do the IMF and the HDI use different definitions when it comes to the GDP of a country?
 

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EU is in terminal decline. Britain should leave as soon as possible. Our economy is doing fine, unlike Germany, France and Italy.

Maybe we should create an Anglo-Saxon Free Trade Area, but one that doesn't lose our national sovereignty.
 

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Rick van Opbergen said:
Why have his posts been deleted Andem? Jesus Christ, what happened to the freedom of speech? 8O

Rick, I've moved them to their own thread. There's no loss of freedom of speech. Additionally, url links should be included to the source in each article posting.

http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2750


Additionally: Please keep on topic. This topic is called "How long will the EU stay in E?" Not "Do you think the UK should cut off all ties with the EU?" Thanks.
 

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Re: RE: how long will the EU stay in E?

Rick van Opbergen said:
I'm confused. According to the Human Development Index (UN), the GDP (in US Dollars) of the UK in 2002 was $26.150, compared to $27.100 in Germany, $26.920 in France and $26.430 in Italy. Can numbers change so much in less than two years? (I mean, if you take the numbers of the IMF, the GDP of the UK has increased by $4.000 in less than two years). How can this be explained? Do the IMF and the HDI use different definitions when it comes to the GDP of a country?

 

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How could it leave Europe if it is the EUROPEAN Union? It would have to change its name. I suppose just like NAFTA would have to when britain leaves the EU and its silly-talk of becoming one nation, when we join NAFTA, a free-trade area that ISN'T trying to become one nation. It could change its name to North Atlantic Free Trade Area.
 

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Rick van Opbergen said:
That's no answer to my question Blackleaf. Can you explain why these numbers differ so much? Do your sources have an explanation about that?

Either two things-

1) Your sources are wrong

or 2) We have since overtaken Germany and France.

After all, our economy did overtake France's in 2000, and will soon overtake Germany's.

We also took over Italy's GDP per capita in about 1997, when Italy was only higher than Britain for a BRIEF period. Italy's economy and GDP per capita have traditionally been SMALLER and LOWER than Britain's.