How about them Canucks!

talloola

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Bernier is a good palyer as well,but this move is good for both teams.

Btw, I am really happy with the move Montreal made...Jarred is a monster.:smile:

Bernier has never lived up to his early reputation, and made too much money for a player who
turned out to be 3rd or 4th line only.
 
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sami salo has done it again. another injury. badly injured his akilies heel playing floor hockey
in finland. He will be out about 4 months.

the good thing is , long term disability allows them to remove his salary from cap, which allows
them to get another player, and figure it out when he is healed, (parden pun) he is going into last
year of his contract, maybe they shouldn't re sign him, let him go.

I wonder how long after the 4 months will he take to come back to top form, that is a serious place
to get injured for a hockey player, can't do anything in skates for a long time.
 

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mason raymond has agreed to a two year contract for 2.5 mil a year.

i'm very curious by this agreement, because he was a 'restricted free agent', so that left him open
to 'other' teams sending him an offer sheet, that the canucks would have had to match in order to
keep him.

I'm wondering if, raymond and gillis came to an agreement a few weeks ago, for him to seek arbitration
which I'm assuming would lift the possibility of any offer sheet, so they could wait to see how other
contracts come down, and figure out how much cap room they had, AND also agree that they would settle
on a contract further down the road, well, now is further down the road, arbitration was going to
happen in a day or two, maybe tomorrow not sure, AND they settled today, without any arbitration,
good thinking, if it was that way, 'another little loophole', do you think?

the point here is - if another team had of sent him an offer sheet, it probably
would have been 3 mil or more, and gillis cannot afford to match any such offer
and they would have had to let him go, and I know raymond wants to stay, he realizes
where he fits in financially on the canucks, but offer sheets tend to be more than
players are worth.

he has definitely earned this settlement, and in two years if he continues to improve in leaps and
bounds the way he has, he will get another raise.

congrats to mason raymond.
 

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Salo's injury may have factored in to getting this done now.

he filed for arbitration before salo was injured, he would have gone to arbitration as we
speak. I don't see any connection at all.

But I sure do see a connection to 'saving' him from receiving an offer sheet, raymond has
become a very respected player around the league, lots of g ms know who he is, and would like
a guy just like him, the filing for arbitration prevented that from happening.

Canucks had to sign him now or he would become a free agent past a 'certain' date, not sure
what that is, as he is a restricted free agent he belongs to canucks up until that date.
Maybe Aug 15. (i'm going to check on that)

Arbitration might have given him more money than he has accepted from the canucks management,
in fact I can pretty well guarantee that, as other players who parallel his stats and age, did
receive more from arbitration, the only thing is, that under an arbitration decision, it is only
a one year contract and he got two.

The canucks are about 2 mil over the cap right now, they have till mid sept to come down to cap
limit. without salo's contract on the books, they will do that, until salo is ready to play, but
I am not sure about him ever coming back, maybe they will buy him out, then they only have to put
half of the money back on the cap at that time, and if he is ready to play by Xmas,
then it would only be half of the half year left.
 
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I'm thinking that with the talk of Bieksa being trade-bait for a forward, Salo's injury may nix that strategy. Plus with Salo's salary off the table, Raymond's salary conveniently puts them at about cap space for now.
 

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I'm thinking that with the talk of Bieksa being trade-bait for a forward, Salo's injury may nix that strategy. Plus with Salo's salary off the table, Raymond's salary conveniently puts them at about cap space for now.

yeah, salo's injury has created a problem with the bieksa trade plans, (if there are any), just media
chat, as team won't admit to anything like that, but it was probably going to happen.

I think they should still trade bieksa for a forward, his play hasn't been any better than many defencemen they can bring up from manitoba, or sign at training camp, far too inconsistent a player for my liking.

If they could trade bieksa for a 1st round draft pick and a prospect, then his contract will be off the
books and no salary coming in at all, and they could start a defencemen from training camp at basic
first year salary of about 500 thousand. I think we will be pleasantly surprised when
we see some of the nice up and coming players who belong to canucks, prospects.
 

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Bieksa is a right hand shot and most of the other D's are left. I believe Salo was right as well. I know the Russians got away with having everyone left handed at one time but there are benefits to having both.
 

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Bieksa is a right hand shot and most of the other D's are left. I believe Salo was right as well. I know the Russians got away with having everyone left handed at one time but there are benefits to having both.

yes, it's good to have one or two righties, as most are left shots, but hopefully some of our new guys
are right hand. i'm going to look them up and find out.

yes, it's good to have one or two righties, as most are left shots, but hopefully some of our new guys
are right hand. i'm going to look them up and find out.

looked up 8 up & coming young prospect defensemen, 5 shoot left, 3 shoot right.
 

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Is anyone else taking notice that it is only one month till training camp, and only about 3 weeks till
the prospects tournament between all prospects in north west division, canucks are hosting it in
Penticton, where their training camp takes place.

Willie Mitchell has been in the headlines last few days, seems he is healthy now, and has been given clearance
from doctors to play again.

He has visited san jose, washington, los angelos, and also vancouver is interested, so looks like he
will dress for someone this fall. If he is 100%, and can play as good as he 'was', canucks could
definitely use him, but not sure if they have any money left, as I think they are over the cap right
now, but teams can be over the cap until just before season starts.

They can keep salo's money 'off' the cap, but if he gets healthy around Xmas, and can come back, then
what will they do.
 

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Mitchell has accepted at 2 yr 7 million dollar contract to play for l.a. kings.
they are the only ones who would give him more than a one year offer. he is wise to
accept it, as he has concussion problems now, just recovered from his 3 rd one.
hockey players careers end when they are still quite young, so they must get all they can
while they can.

bieksa will stay on with canucks now.

burrows won't be playing till well into november, he had shoulder surgery, and won't be ready till then.

salo's injury will keep him out till xmas or longer.
 

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Roberto Luongo has relinquished the 'C', which was expected. They have not named a new captain

as yet.

It was an interesting experience, but from what I have noticed, every little problem he had, the

fans pointed the finger saying he shouldn't be captain, no one needs that kind of attention, not

positive at all. Not sure if the experience really bothered him at all, but he will be interviewed

on radio this afternoon, so perhaps he will enlighten us as to how that experience was for him.

Gillis had asked him to give the situation lots of thought over the last couple of
weeks, and make a decision. I think Gillis and he had a long discussion on the
matter, and probably both decided to get that distraction out of the way, as it was
causing too much attention.

It will be interesting to see if his level of play improves this season, but you know,
even if it does, that doesn't necessarily mean it has any connection to being captain,
but who cares, we just want him to play better.
 

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Getting the captaincy out of Luongo's work load has got to be a positive step. All Goalies sometimes have bad games and it is those bad games they have to work on without the added load of worrying about how the team is going on the powerplay. I think we'll see an improvement in Luongo's play.
 

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Getting the captaincy out of Luongo's work load has got to be a positive step. All Goalies sometimes have bad games and it is those bad games they have to work on without the added load of worrying about how the team is going on the powerplay. I think we'll see an improvement in Luongo's play.

It was also those media responsibilities he had as captain, as the NHL has a ruling for captains that
they have to address the media at certain times, and also certain things that luongo would say concerning
the teams play got thrown back at him as criticizm of his team, and it wasn't meant that way, and if a
regular skater said the same thing it would not be twisted around.
re: blocking shots etc.
so, it was a big leadership move by him to hand the C over so someelse can carry on, and it was his
decision, he could have kept it had he wanted to, he has thought it over all summer, and felt for
the teams sake it was the right thing to do, as 'winning' is all they focus on, and anything they
can do to contribute to that outcome, is what they want to do.
 

talloola

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Agreed.

However in the end he-like so many other Canuck goalies-isn't nearly as good as people here think he is.

well he certainly is a huge step 'up' from dan cloutier, the only thing that pisses people off about luongo
is how much money he makes. If he made about 3.5 mil per year and played just like he has played for
the past two years, everyone would be quite happy with him.
Unfortunately money does not dictate how any player will play after the contract, as the money they
are given is for play up to that contract, then they start trying to earn the next one, so far he
hasn't been able to play to a 7 mil level. I don't know any goalie who has.
 

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Brendon Morrison has been invited to the canucks training camp for a try out. I'm glad for him,
was hoping someone would give him a call. Don't know if he can beat out the players he needs to
to crack the line up, but if not he can play in manitoba, and be a call up when injuries occur, etc.

malhotra will probably be our third line center, that will be morrison's main competition. Although
morrison is on the downside of his career, he still can play well, and most importantley he is a very
smart and savvy player now, with good wheels, he won't hurt any team, it's just the numbers of players
competing against him that is tough.
Hodgson is still not 100%, so he won't be at training camp, and when he does get completely healthy I
imagine he will start his season in Manitoba, but it won't take him long to move up, even if it takes
all season, he is only 20, and one year in manitoba might be just what he needs now.


GO CANUCKS GO
 

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I watched the Canuck's pre-season game last night against the Ducks. The game ended up 4 - 1 for the Canucks. I noticed that both Schaefer and Morrison were playing for the Canucks. The Sedins were powerful as usual. The team generally looked good but this early in the season it is hard to tell. We should be seeing the real team by the time the season gets underway.

Btw, they reckon Hodgson is ready to play now. Hodgson thinks he is ready to play. I liked the guy in junior. I hope they get him on the ice soon.