HIV-positive immigrants fall through cracks .

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July 18, HIV-Positive Immigrants Fall Through Cracks : Study HIV-positive immigrants fall through cracks: Study

Research from the B.C. Centre for Disease Control found that HIV-positive immigrants are not getting the treatment they need, and that 16 per cent of all new infections in Canada are linked to people from countries where HIV is prevalent.

Calls on Ottawa to make cases of the virus a `reportable' disease

Terri Theodore
THE CANADIAN PRESS
Jul 18, 2008 04:30 AM

VANCOUVER–Immigrants with HIV account for a large portion of new infections of the disease in Canada and they're slipping between the health-care cracks, a report warns.

Although Citizenship and Immigration Canada is considering making HIV a reportable disease, currently it is not, meaning it is not considered a public health risk and it is not mandatory to report infections to public health officials.

The recent report by the B.C. Centre for Disease Control found about 16 per cent of all new infections in Canada are linked to people from countries where HIV is prevalent, yet they make up only 1.5 per cent of the Canadian population. The 2005 figure means the infection rate was almost 13 times greater for immigrants, or those connected to them, from HIV-endemic countries than for Canadians.

Tuberculosis and syphilis are considered reportable diseases by the federal immigration department, but HIV has only been designated a "notifiable" disease. There are no mandatory conditions for follow-up for immigrants who test positive for HIV. However, every province and territory lists HIV as a reportable disease.

"Targeted testing of immigrants, therefore, will increase the opportunity to ensure that HIV-positive immigrants are made aware of their status and support expedient counselling, prevention and treatment," said the report.

But critics say making HIV a reportable disease is an unnecessary intrusion on privacy.

When a disease is designated "reportable," all health-care professionals must immediately report any incidence because it's considered a public health risk.

The source of the disease is investigated to prevent others from getting infected and transmitting the disease.

Dr. Mark Gilbert, co-author of the report, said the goal would be to connect with new immigrants who may not know that treatment help is available.

"From a public-health perspective, if HIV were treated as a reportable infection through Citizenship and Immigration Canada, that would be one way of improving the timeliness of connecting with these folks when they come to Canada," Gilbert said in an interview.

Karen Shadd, a spokesperson for the immigration department, said officials have read the report. "It is under consideration, but we're in discussions on the issues that were raised in the report," she said.

Since 2002, the immigration department has required a medical exam for immigrants and certain visitors including an HIV test for those 15 years and older. Examinations include physician counselling if a person tests positive for HIV.

Between 2002 and 2006 there were 2,567 immigration applicants who tested positive for HIV during their medical exams among the 1.2 million immigrants to Canada accepted during the same period.

Of those HIV-positive applicants, 89 per cent were determined to be medically admissible to Canada.

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I thought we already flagged people with HIV. Why would we bring in someone who cannot work? I am working overseas and one member of our expat party failed the blood test required for the work visa permit. He tested positive for Hepatitis, which he invariably got from the unsanitary conditions of the country where we were applying for the visa. After they got the blood test back, he was picked up the next day and deported. Now apparently in Canada its the opposite, its is encouraging people with a highly infectious fatal disease to come here, where they are too sick to work, and be looked after by Canadians. It is damaging to our population and our infrastructure. And definitely goes into the category of WHAT THE !@!”?$% ARE WE THINKING. What is the purpose of this kind of immigration? I guess we are the backwards nation.

Posted by lumpy at 7:19 PM Saturday, July 19 2008
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What's Wrong with the other 11 percent?

89 percent of AIDS cases applying to come to Cabada are "medically admissable" the others aren't? What's wrong with them? Do they have some incurable disease that's easily transmissable and will cost potentially millions in health care costs? Or maybe they're criminals who either don't know what they're doing, or don't care. We wouldn't want them landing in court charged with ruining the lives of their hosts, eh? AIDS is increasing in Canada despite all our care, education and retroviral drugs. AIDS is still a death sentence, it will shorten your life. Immigrants should be disease-free. They can let us make them sick.

Posted by Popsiq at 5:36 PM Friday, July 18 2008

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Well I know when I applied for my Aussie Spousal Visa, they did blood work and medical examinations for tuberculosis, syphilis and HIV, among other things..... they need to ensure they're not going to take in someone who's going to milk the crap out of their health care or otherwise be a burden to society.... rather, someone who can contribute.

If someone has a serious medical condition or infected with a contagious and often fatal disease, then they shouldn't be allowed to go to another country to live...... their own countries should be dealing with their own problems, not passing them off to other nations to deal with.

If I had any of the above illnesses, I'd expect to have been rejected for my visa, as I'd expect anybody else infected to be rejected.

Looking at immigration in a business point of view, what benefits would the country be getting by taking in another country's sick and those who can't work?

There's no benefits...... meanwhile, based on the above report's claims, these people Canada is taking in are not only being a burden to our society, not only are many of them not getting any form of treatment either.... but based on the above, these people are also infected other Canadian citizens, further adding to the burden on our society.

^ What sense does it make to welcome these people with open arms?

Sympathy and compassion?

That only goes so far.
 

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Well I know when I applied for my Aussie Spousal Visa, they did blood work and medical examinations for tuberculosis, syphilis and HIV, among other things..... they need to ensure they're not going to take in someone who's going to milk the crap out of their health care or otherwise be a burden to society.... rather, someone who can contribute.

If someone has a serious medical condition or infected with a contagious and often fatal disease, then they shouldn't be allowed to go to another country to live...... their own countries should be dealing with their own problems, not passing them off to other nations to deal with.

If I had any of the above illnesses, I'd expect to have been rejected for my visa, as I'd expect anybody else infected to be rejected.

Looking at immigration in a business point of view, what benefits would the country be getting by taking in another country's sick and those who can't work?

There's no benefits...... meanwhile, based on the above report's claims, these people Canada is taking in are not only being a burden to our society, not only are many of them not getting any form of treatment either.... but based on the above, these people are also infected other Canadian citizens, further adding to the burden on our society.

^ What sense does it make to welcome these people with open arms?

Sympathy and compassion?

That only goes so far.
What sense does it make to welcome these people with open arms?
Sympathy and compassion?
That only goes so far.
Here is your own answer Praxius :
If someone has a serious medical condition or infected with a contagious and often fatal disease, then they shouldn't be allowed to go to another country to live...... their own countries should be dealing with their own problems, not passing them off to other nations to deal with.
 

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Here is your own answer Praxius :
If someone has a serious medical condition or infected with a contagious and often fatal disease, then they shouldn't be allowed to go to another country to live...... their own countries should be dealing with their own problems, not passing them off to other nations to deal with.

Indeed, yet that's not being done, which is why I asked the question ;-)