Helsinki summit

Vbeacher

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I guess that unless I'm willing to get four-square behind things like concentration camps for immigrants, I'm not a "real" 21st century Conservative.

Trump exploits the extremes. It's a gigantic reality show, apparently, except that the stakes are far more deadly dangerous than the public seems to understand.

I think Trump and the Republicans are warping the term. He is not and has never been a conservative of any sort. The Republicans aren't really very conservative any more either. As a party, they're sold themselves, like whores, to the wealthy elites who don't care about anything but getting their taxes lower. See how quickly and easily they threw deficit reduction out the window to please their donor base?
 

Curious Cdn

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I think Trump and the Republicans are warping the term. He is not and has never been a conservative of any sort. The Republicans aren't really very conservative any more either. As a party, they're sold themselves, like whores, to the wealthy elites who don't care about anything but getting their taxes lower. See how quickly and easily they threw deficit reduction out the window to please their donor base?

They're big spenders, too. They want to go to Mars AND rebuild America's nuclear weapons arsenal. There's a few trillion $$ in loose change out the window.

In truth, out-of-control defence budgets and bigly-big ticket items like manned space flight are really sneaky ways of doing some very Kyenesian stimulus of the US economy. Get the go-ahead from Rupert Murdoch (and Walter), wrap in in a flag and sneaky socialist tax-and-spend stimulus becomes True Blue Republicanism.
 

Torch light

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All this is only your guessing .. are you delighted, it may be you are wrong, and you will be disappointed I hope :lol: .. but none (other than their translators) may have true knowledge about their talks; it may be opposite to what you think :laughing6:

Anyhow: two points here.
1- Before they met, they might have mutual agreement about some topics.
2- So watch the economic penalties against Russia .. will it be removed .. it may mean they agreed among themselves .. or else it may not
 

Tecumsehsbones

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I think Trump and the Republicans are warping the term. He is not and has never been a conservative of any sort. The Republicans aren't really very conservative any more either. As a party, they're sold themselves, like whores, to the wealthy elites who don't care about anything but getting their taxes lower. See how quickly and easily they threw deficit reduction out the window to please their donor base?

Holy crap, I agree with every word.

We are well and truly in the Twilight Zone.
 

Kreskin

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I think Trump and the Republicans are warping the term. He is not and has never been a conservative of any sort. The Republicans aren't really very conservative any more either. As a party, they're sold themselves, like whores, to the wealthy elites who don't care about anything but getting their taxes lower. See how quickly and easily they threw deficit reduction out the window to please their donor base?
The debt funding ends up in the hands of the wealthy, regardless of the source of entry into the economy. The cry about handouts and entitlements, but in the end the money works it's way into their pockets.
 

Curious Cdn

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They're big spenders, too. They want to go to Mars AND rebuild America's nuclear weapons arsenal. There's a few trillion $$ in loose change out the window.

In truth, out-of-control defence budgets and bigly-big ticket items like manned space flight are really sneaky ways of doing some very Kyenesian stimulus of the US economy. Get the go-ahead from Rupert Murdoch (and Walter), wrap in in a flag and sneaky socialist tax-and-spend stimulus becomes True Blue Republicanism.

YAY!

BAR SINISTER!


You are my 7000th Greenie!

Drinks are on me, Man!
 

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Putin soccer ball gift to Trump may have had microchip
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July 25, 2018
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July 25, 2018 8:41 PM EDT
U.S. President Donald Trump, left, throws a soccer ball to his wife after receiving it by Russia's President Vladimir Putin during a joint press conference after a meeting at the Presidential Palace in Helsinki, on July 16, 2018. (BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP/Getty Images)
WASHINGTON — The soccer ball that Vladimir Putin gave President Donald Trump may have had a bug after all. Thought it’s not what you’re thinking.
Adidas says that particular ball is embedded with a microchip that accesses Adidas content for display on smartphones.
After the Russian leader tossed it to Trump following their Finland summit, Sen. Lindsey Graham — a Putin critic — tweeted that he’d have it checked for listening devices.
That’s exactly what the U.S. Secret Service has done. A security screening is standard for all gifts to the president.
Trump said he would give the red-and-white ball to his 12-year-old son, Barron, a soccer fan.
Graham said he’d “never allow it in the White House.” The White House had no update Wednesday on the ball’s status.
http://torontosun.com/news/world/putin-soccer-ball-gift-to-trump-may-have-had-microchip