Help the Kurds

jimmoyer

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Because Saddam Hussein would not leave them in the peace and isolation of their mountain redoubt, Iraq's Kurds went to war against Baghdad three decades ago. They deliberately set in motion the chain of events that were to bring an American invasion force to Baghdad to overthrow the dictator in 2003. While he could not foresee exactly how it would happen, the late Kurdish leader Mullah Mustafa Barzani told me in 1972 that it would. I was skeptical; he was right.

No political outcome can balance the scales of personal grief and loss brought by the loss of 2,000 and more American service personnel in Iraq since the invasion began. Human lives cannot be measured and counted as instruments or integers of policy or politics.

So the fact that Kurds live in freedom today from racial pogroms directed at them from Baghdad -- in large part because of U.S. protection and sacrifice -- can assuage no mother's grief or friend's anger over U.S. casualties. But neither can the positive change that American actions have brought simply be dismissed or ignored.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/29/AR2005102901016.html
 

jimmoyer

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What this story says to me is that by doing nothing the pacificists cause a greater harm to a people such as the Kurds while they are at the same time influenced by the world media to be all righteous about Palestinian rights.

Most opinions are begetted by the world media echo chamber.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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No political outcome can balance the scales of personal grief and loss brought by the loss of 2,000 and more American service personnel in Iraq since the invasion began. Human lives cannot be measured and counted as instruments or integers of policy or politics.


....this is soo true...it doesn't matter if Iraq is free or we leave without finishing our work those lives lost can never be replaced....however hopefully the families will be able to find comfort that their loved ones died for a good cause to liberate the people of Iraq, be it Kurds who have been slaughtered in the past by Saddam, or the current attack by the Sunni minority on the Iraqi people, or even the terrorists who flood into Iraq from other nations hell bent on taking lives of innocent Iraqi civilians.....because make no mistake this is not only a war waged against the US and coalition troops but a war against innocent civilians as well as muslim moderates who only want to see their country free of dictatorship.
 

Hard-Luck Henry

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jimmoyer said:
Because Saddam Hussein would not leave them in the peace and isolation of their mountain redoubt, Iraq's Kurds went to war against Baghdad three decades ago. They deliberately set in motion the chain of events that were to bring an American invasion force to Baghdad to overthrow the dictator in 2003. While he could not foresee exactly how it would happen, the late Kurdish leader Mullah Mustafa Barzani told me in 1972 that it would. I was skeptical; he was right.

No political outcome can balance the scales of personal grief and loss brought by the loss of 2,000 and more American service personnel in Iraq since the invasion began. Human lives cannot be measured and counted as instruments or integers of policy or politics.

So the fact that Kurds live in freedom today from racial pogroms directed at them from Baghdad -- in large part because of U.S. protection and sacrifice -- can assuage no mother's grief or friend's anger over U.S. casualties. But neither can the positive change that American actions have brought simply be dismissed or ignored.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/29/AR2005102901016.html


Kind of begs the question "why weren't you helping the Kurds three decades ago?"
The kurds have suffered at the hands of many states, and still do, for that matter. Of course, it just so happens that northern Iraq is of strategic importance to US interests, now ...

How benign of your administration to sacrifice American soldiers for the sake of kurdish freedom.
 

jimmoyer

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That same question kind of begs us all doesn't it?

Those Americans supporting this war point to finally helping the Kurds are no better than the liberal intellectuals who cry valiantly over the Palestinian plight while ignoring the Kurds who don't have the market machinery to gain your attention. UNTIL NOW.

We're all subject to the headlines of the day.

Righteousness du jour.

It's what's for dinner.
 

peapod

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uh huh...first your reason is weapons of mass destruction, we know that was not true, than it was because sadam was a evil dictator..true..but that was not your reason, now its the kurds. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Funny innit?? how the american goverment want to bring democracy to Iraq, whilst its okey dokey not to have democracy in saudi arabia...* puts hand up* I know! I know..

OIL! OIL! OIL!

This to is funny innit?? The only place under miltrary protection when the looting of museums started was the ministry of ??????
you guessed it the ministry of OIL! You don't give a rats ass about the kurds, just something else you use for an excuse. Blah!
 

moghrabi

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Peapod. An American doesn't give a rats ass about his mother when it comes to his wealth and comfort and here we are arguing about US caring for the Kurds. funny...very funny Jim.
 

jimmoyer

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That same question kind of begs us all doesn't it?

No other country cares enough either.
Nor do the people having been ignorant about it forever suddenly wake up in outrage ?

Nor does your vaunted puny foreign aid so boasted about would have gone there.

Those Americans supporting this war point to finally helping the Kurds are no better than the liberal intellectuals who cry valiantly over the Palestinian plight while ignoring the Kurds who don't have the market machinery to gain your attention. UNTIL NOW.

We're all subject to the headlines of the day.

Righteousness du jour.

It's what's for dinner.
 

peapod

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liar liar pants on fire...


Ehm...could you please tell me what your filthy rumsfeld was doing in Iraq on January 1984?????

Here I will give you some clues :roll: :roll: :roll:

1. Searle and co...also known as Pfizer and co

2. Who is holding hands with sadam outside the presidential palace???

3. Mustard gas anyone??

4. Who sold mustard gas to sadam, knowing full well it would be used to gas kurds??

Whats for dinner??? try a wennie dog...don't forget the mustard :twisted: