HBC Logistics (335 years)

DoubleWitt

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Isn't this wonderful group worth standing up for...? They've been around for some 335 years deeply rooted in Canadian history and culture and yet, nobody seems to care... Ofcourse, as we all should know, HBC Logistics is struggling to make it through.
Where is our culture now...? We've swapped it for a few dollars to save at Wal-Mart or somewhere else - and does that make any sense...?! Brag all you want about Canada and you let this group die off the scene with little or no concern. I wonder where we are at when we bow out for some cheap dollars saved - like traitors who won't even defend their national pride - if any. I think HBC Logistics deserves a greater response nationally than what they are actually getting.

Concerned,
DoubleWitt
 

Vanni Fucci

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I agree that shopping at (primarily) American discount stores is slitting our own throats...but HBC too has been guilty of a lot of throat slitting in its ignominious past...

Their predatory practices in the fur trade led to the extinction of several species, including the sea otter, and the near-extinction of the beaver.

Hudson's Bay Company policies set stage for modern environmental struggles

Added to this their virtual enslavement of the indigenous peoples of Canada which, among other factors, led to their inevitable social decline, and you have the makings of the first neoconservative corporatist entity, having little regard for the environment, or the people of the land.

On the one hand, I find it sad that they are facing financial difficulty, as they are the oldest Canadian owned business and a true testament to our past...but on the other, I recognize that if they were making profits now, it would have been at the expense of many others, and would be a clear indication that they are indeed still on the destructive path on which they started.
 

#juan

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One of my biggest frustrations is that Godamned Wal-mart and Home Depot are thriving while Canadian stores are struggling. I drive miles to buy Canadian. I don't know why we allow them in the country. All they do is provide a pile of minimum wage jobs and screw the market for Canadian stores. Wal-Mart is a bloody amoeba that by it's nature, eats all of it's competition. Somehow we deny the experience of many American cities where Wal-Mart has eaten up the competition and then raised their prices because the competition was gone. Home Depot is the same. If Canadians have a major fault, it is apathy. We don't care enough to support Canadian businesses.
 

DoubleWitt

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The bottomline to the original post, is mainly aiming at the overall general Canadian reaction to the business world. Many or all businesses have made their mistakes in the past and many are being made now. Look how Wal-Mart demolishes culture, history and business in it's own country, but they are not satisfied... and they have to move out internationally, aren't they on a destructive binge...! Do you know anything about Wal-Mart business practices and their lovely little back door policy...? How is it we can just sit there and watch all our businesses die out - and then we say, Ah, I'm proud to be Canadian..? It seems to me that we are on a suicide mission. It is really pathetic! We don't have character here in Canada - people don't stand up on issues and we just let ourselves become victims to anything that goes on...How about those great big cigarette makers pumping out millions or billions of dollars yearly in clean profits - and we demolish the health of the people to acquire more cash. Look how the big ones out there make millions and billions in selling poisonous household cleaning products - we buy that and kill our own health (did you ever research on the effects of household cleaning products on human health - you would be in a state of shock if you knew)... and they're killing off people and making millions. And who is going to do anything about that...? When will we take a stand on these issues...? It's a shame. Why is it we accept so many products that are made in Japan and so on instead of developing our own resources and instead of developing our own true Canadian pride?
Where are we headed with this I don't care attitude...? I sure would like to see a change - but we're on a sinking ship it seems, and there's not much more space left for you and me above the rising water. What are we waiting for...? This in all, is very frustrating...

DoubleWitt
 

DoubleWitt

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Do you know, that in August this year when gasoline prices were around $1.00/liter HBC was dishing out $250,000.00 more on gasoline charge per week compared to last year...? And now we're headed for the $1.50/liter target or more. What a disaster...!!
Do you know, that many businesses here in Canada are not able to absorb the punch...? That's enough to file for bankruptcy.
Do you know, that the Americans are giving great consideration towards developing businesses here in Canada - what an impact that will have...including Wal-Mart, Target, Starbuck, and so on, the list is getting longer all the time.
Who knows, maybe there are many motives in raising the gasoline prices. The Americans supply for us and perhaps they have several undisclosed motives in raising the cost...
That kind of increase is enough to kill many Canadian businesses and wouldn't that be lovely for Wal-Mart and all the others...? Maybe they're using the New Orleans affair to cover their undisclosed motives. Another one of their little policies - what a business strategy...! Personally, I seriously wonder about these issues and what a clever cover-up that would be for hidden undisclosed plans.

DoubleWitt
 

DoubleWitt

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Honestly, that's not my intention, but rather just offering my initial point of view... I haven't reached that point yet - I'm not a good preacher.
Actually, I don't understand exactly what you mean by your statement...
But that's OK, anyways.

Cheers,
DoubleWitt