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Yeah. So we have Harpocrites and Hypogrits (a Grit is a liberal). And neither of them are any better than the other concerning hypocrisy, but the Hypogrits have displayed a tremedous amount more corruption so far.

Thank you sir, I was using a thesarus to find one for the left. Hypogrits, priceless.

P.S. Yes I am old enough to know a Grit is a Liberal.
 
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L Gilbert

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Oh, yeah. The Hypogrits are saints in comparison to the Harpercrites. :roll:

Can we say "gun control"? $2 billion and rising, for what? Just to turn farmers and hunters into criminals. It did nothing for crime prevention.
Can we say, "cuts to health care"? http://paulmartintime.ca/story/000024.html
Can we say, "cuts to education"? http://thetyee.ca/Views/2004/02/03/Martins_Slippery_Speech/
Can we say, "crime"? http://www.ndp.ca/page/2047
Can we say, "tough on working families"? http://www.policyalternatives.ca/documents/National_Office_Pubs/paul_martins_record.pdf

http://paulmartintime.ca/

http://www.saskndp.com/cw/64.1/paulmartinthrone.html

So who knows what all those cuts to social programs will cost in the long run?
 

L Gilbert

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Paul Martin did his own share of fiddling with tax benefits for the richest 8% of the population while cutting back on social programs for women, seniors, students, housing, etc. Not only that, he transfered registration of his company's ships out of Canada so he could avoid taxes here. Yeah, the Cons are sure terrible people. :roll: It'd be more correct to say that politicians are terrible people.
 

L Gilbert

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And we are still counting the losses due to the Hypogrits.
I'm a minarchist, more than anything, and I'm not defending Harper, just pointing out that your heroes in the Liberal party aren't saints either.
As I said earlier, who knows what the costs of cuts to social programs cost us. We are still experiencing aftermaths of cuts to healthcare. We don't know what the costs are after the Glibs cut funding for research either. As a direct result of Martin's fiddling, post-secondary students accumulated a bigger debt than Canada's public debt and are still paying for it. Yet you positively assert that Harper & Co. are worse? I can't see how you figure that out.
 

L Gilbert

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Anyway, as far as breaking promises goes,
"Screw the Red Book... Don't tell me what's in the Red Book. I wrote the goddamned thing. And I know that it's a lot of crap."
Paul Martin, criticizing those who dared to mention the Red Book after he readily abandoned the book of popular promises once the Liberals used it to win the 1993 election.
 

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Politicians are hypocrites. You have to be one to step on everyone to get to the top. If you're that mad for power, there’s got to be something wrong with you.
The point about the Harper government is that it wasted time cancelling these good programs because the Liberals made them, then they brought out a really bad environmental plan, the so called Clean Air Act, then they had to go back to the drawing board and re-name the Liberal plans that they cancelled. That isn't good for this country. They should have kept the Liberal plans in the first place.
 

L Gilbert

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I wasn't going to mention that in1968 Canada's national debt was about $16 billion and there was no deficit. But I changed my mind. When Trudeau quit in '84, he left the national debt at $160 billion with a deficit of $32 billion. Mulroney grabbed it from there and took it up to $430 billion. Chretien managed to usher the national debt up to $580 billion. Martin managed to knock off about $80 billion in debt and deficit, albeit at the cost to seniors, students, families, women, etc. So mostly due to the Gliberals, Canada's debt went up more than 31 times what it was when Trudeau got in. I might add that Mulroney was a liberal in a blue suit.
 

tamarin

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Gilbert, you've featured Pierre Trudeau for what he was: Father of the Debt. A spoiled wannabe socialist brat and quasi-intellectual from Quebec, he rode in on the strength of the women's vote and changed the country forever. A time of shame and infamy!