Harper made a deal with the Bloc

[MikeyDB]

Sure let's have a national referendum instead of just a referendum in Quebec. Those who believe like I that Quebec has been pandered to and sucked-up-to...long enough can send one of two messages...

My country includes cultural diversity and respects the rights of the majority so if a national vote demonstrates a majority of opposition to Quebec separation....that's the end of the story and those fomenting separation should be charged with treason.

I'm tired of the whole Quebec issue now get the hell out and stay out!

 

[General James Wolfe]

Quebec has not rights to seperate from Canada FULL STOP!


Quebec belongs to English speaking Canadains and it will always belong to English speaking Canadians. French Canadians dont like living in Canada can leave. Anglophone Canadians have for too long been tollerant towards Francophone Canadians. I wished that the Anglophones of Quebec who left Quebec stayed in Quebec ot bolster their brothers and sisters in Quebec. Anglophones dont be afraid of Francophone terrorist because Quebec belongs to you and not to them. Time for a mass migration of Anglophones to Quebec to make the Anglophones the majority and to reduce the Francophones to a minority.


English Canadians, if Canada descends into Civil War dont worry after all your ancestors kicked the ancestors of French Canadians. The Royal Canadian Armed Forces will crush the PQ terrorist in 1 week at the most.


QUEBEC BELONGS TO CANADA TODAY
QUEBEC BELONGS TO CANADA TOMMOROW
QUEBEC BELONGS TO CANADA FOREVER


Quebec is not a Nation, but a Province.

 

[sanctus]

Quebec has not rights to seperate from Canada FULL STOP!


Quebec belongs to English speaking Canadains and it will always belong to English speaking Canadians. .

Not quite my imperialistic friend. "English" Canadians do now own anything, especially Quebec. All the country is, technically speaking, owned by all its citizens, regardless of their ethnic background. The French population owns Canada, therefore, just as much as the English, the Chinese-Canadians, etc.,etc.

 

[Zzarchov]

Its a nice try, but anybody willing to fight it out has a right to seperate.

I rather like the Canadian solution, where rather than nutballs dropping bombs every other week we just sit around and bitch and whine about it for forty years.

Your tired of hearing about Quebec seperation, hey me too. Im tired of my job too though..but I put up with it because the alternative is worse.


And Wolfe..please understand the traditional definition of nation, it is different than a nation-state. The term nation has existed long before concepts of westphalian nation states.

Nation: A people who share common customs, origins, history, and frequently language; a nationality:

Nation-State:
A political unit consisting of an autonomous state inhabited predominantly by a people sharing a common culture, history, and language.


Quebec has been defined as a Nation (which it is), Not as a Nation-State (which It would need to start lobbing bombs around to be)

 

[Jay]

Time for a mass migration of Anglophones to Quebec to make the Anglophones the majority and to reduce the Francophones to a minority.

So you will be moving to Scotland I take it, General?

 

[General James Wolfe]

Jay


I am a Scot living in London England, I was born in Edinburgh in 1983 and moved to Londo with my family in 2003. I am a proud of being British and I dont like the French. I urge people of

English decent
Scottish decent
Irish decent
Welsh decent

to more to Quebec to bolster the Anglophone community in Quebec and become the majority of Quebec. Quebec belongs to people of British decent, the French Canadians if they are not happy with that they can move.

I SUPPORT ALL PATRIOTIC BRITISH CANADIANS.


The British defeated the French for Noth America and that makes it ours fair and square.

QUEBEC BELONGS TO ENGLISH, SCOTTISH, IRISH AND WELSH CANADIANS.

 

[sanctus]

Jay


I am a Scot living in London England, I was born in Edinburgh in 1983 and moved to Londo with my family in 2003. I am a proud of being British and I dont like the French. I urge people of

English decent
Scottish decent
Irish decent
Welsh decent

to more to Quebec .

I have an idea, why don't you let us handle our own internal affairs. You probably didn't get the memo, but the Empire is dead.

 

[#juan]

No he didn't he didn't, he just left the country in such a mess, that throwing money at it seemed like the only way out(gawd i hate defending Boloney Mulroney).

I'm still waiting for you to back up the "cred" assertion. As well as a few other threads I've been wiating in, lol.

Mulroney was in power nine years. In each of those years, he ran up a deficit of forty billion or so. Chhretien, for all his faults, inherited a forty six billion dollar deficit from Kim Cambell. He did what he had to do over the next three years to get the country back to a balanced budget. Why didn't Bulroney do the same thing? Because he was an indolent, useless, twit.

I'm still waiting for you to back up the "cred" assertion. As well as a few other threads I've been wiating in, lol.

That was, and is my opinion. I don't do your research for you

 

[CDNBear]

Are you saying Quebec Seperatists aren't people? That Quebecois don't get to have their votes count in the running of the country? No wonder they want to seperate.

Democracy means sometimes people with views you don't like, don't do things you want them to.

Thanx for reading into my question. Could you possible explain where you got that tripe you just typed from, surely it wasn't from my question.

If the people of CANADA were asked if they support this, the answer would be a resounding NON.

The Bloc is not even a legal party, it is allowed to exist because the politicians that run this country, be they red or blue, are weak kneed asses. The actions and commentary by the seperatists is treasonous, plain and simple.

This motion was not the will of the majority of CANADIANS, it was the knee jerk reaction of a pandering ass, to get votes.

 

[CDNBear]

Sure let's have a national referendum instead of just a referendum in Quebec. Those who believe like I that Quebec has been pandered to and sucked-up-to...long enough can send one of two messages...

My country includes cultural diversity and respects the rights of the majority so if a national vote demonstrates a majority of opposition to Quebec separation....that's the end of the story and those fomenting separation should be charged with treason.

I'm tired of the whole Quebec issue now get the hell out and stay out!

Way to go Mikey, great post.

 

[CDNBear]

That's funny...do you think Trudeau ever apologized for the trend he started?


Liberals expect Conservatives to correct the mistakes they make and cost us the political fall out associated with it....nice work if you can get it.

What would Canada be saying now about Mulroney had he have slashed the civil service and social spending inherited...or more rightly what would Liberals be saying?

From what I understandMulroney achieved less government spending when he left the Hill, even thought the Liberals fought him every step of the way.

Here's a nice quote I found...



Granted Chretien wasn't actually Finance Minister but Parliamentary Secretary, the rule applies though.

Mulroney was in power nine years. In each of those years, he ran up a deficit of forty billion or so. Chhretien, for all his faults, inherited a forty six billion dollar deficit from Kim Cambell. He did what he had to do over the next three years to get the country back to a balanced budget. Why didn't Bulroney do the same thing? Because he was an indolent, useless, twit.


That was, and is my opinion. I don't do your research for you

Umm ya, what Jay said, I really didn't need to answer your post Juan, Jay beat me to the punch line by a couple hours.

 

[Zzarchov]

Thanx for reading into my question. Could you possible explain where you got that tripe you just typed from, surely it wasn't from my question.

If the people of CANADA were asked if they support this, the answer would be a resounding NON.

The Bloc is not even a legal party, it is allowed to exist because the politicians that run this country, be they red or blue, are weak kneed asses. The actions and commentary by the seperatists is treasonous, plain and simple.

This motion was not the will of the majority of CANADIANS, it was the knee jerk reaction of a pandering ass, to get votes.

Well, welcome to the wonderful world of compromise. Perhaps next time, you should READ a post (such as my first one) before commenting on it?

See, if everyone had to have things exactly their way, or the highway, then nothing would get done, and anything that was done..would be horrid.

In a democracy with many different oppions, to get things done..you have to do whats known as give and take.

I support something you want and you support something I want more.

Thats how compromise works, thats how a democracy is supposed to work.

Up next, learning to share and tie your shoes.

 

[CDNBear]

Well, welcome to the wonderful world of compromise. Perhaps next time, you should READ a post (such as my first one) before commenting on it?

See, if everyone had to have things exactly their way, or the highway, then nothing would get done, and anything that was done..would be horrid.

In a democracy with many different oppions, to get things done..you have to do whats known as give and take.

I support something you want and you support something I want more.

Thats how compromise works, thats how a democracy is supposed to work.

Up next, learning to share and tie your shoes.

I read your post and asked you to clarify it.

That's all. You read way to much into it. I understand your confusion though. The air is thin in those lofty places, where the smug and self righteous tend to hang out. Perhaps you missed this little blurb in post 9 of this thread...

"Could there have been a backroom deal with the Bloc so Stevo could get something done?
D'uh, ya think, it wasn't that hard to figure out."

But seeing as you missed READING that, I posted it again. Let be know if the words were to big, I'll have my 10 year old post it for me, so you will get it.

BTW, thanx for removing all doubt about your position and intellect.

 

[Zzarchov]

Oh I read it, but a "Backroom deal" implies its not out in the open.

Its been said this bill was passed because he wanted continued bloc support.

Its not a "backroom deal" if you say it flat out in the open. I believe I commented on that.

"So the problem is that a Government obeyed the will of the people through its elected representitives? Finding compromise between people of different views to solve problems?"

Oh look, I did.

BTW, thanx for removing all doubt about your position and intellect.

 

[CDNBear]

Oh I read it, but a "Backroom deal" implies its not out in the open.

Its been said this bill was passed because he wanted continued bloc support.

Its not a "backroom deal" if you say it flat out in the open. I believe I commented on that.

"So the problem is that a Government obeyed the will of the people through its elected representitives? Finding compromise between people of different views to solve problems?"

Oh look, I did.

BTW, thanx for removing all doubt about your position and intellect.

But you are advocating compromise that compromises the rest of the country. Quebecuoix are Canadian. They are an important part of the countries make up, so are people in BC, Alberta etc.

So why should we cave to one group? The FLQ failed under PET, a wimp. Harper is a "nazi" "neo con" in the eyes of the looney left. What makes you think he won't send in jackbooted English squads to quell your up rising?

 

[Zzarchov]

Why Cave to one group...hrm..how about so that group will cave to your one group. Canada is a massive amount of small groups who have to Cave into each other or nothing is done.

And thats the way it should be, no one group should get everything they want. Notice the resolution passed is a far cry from what the Bloc want.

 

[CDNBear]

Why Cave to one group...hrm..how about so that group will cave to your one group. Canada is a massive amount of small groups who have to Cave into each other or nothing is done.

And thats the way it should be, no one group should get everything they want. Notice the resolution passed is a far cry from what the Bloc want.

Trust me, I understand the principal of give and take. But it looks to the rest of Canada that the Quebecuoix are all about the take.

The only give we will see from this, is the court case that follows will give the Anglais a real headache.