GW/CC - Eco Energy Technology Initiative - Lunn

Karlin

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Env Minister Gary Lunn today announced the "Eco Energy Technology Initiative" to battle the global warming crisis.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/17/clean-energy.html


However, Lunn did not state the source of the crisis he is apparently addressing, which is: "fossil fuels emissions that cause global warming and climate changes". Nope, he didn't say it. That is because the agenda here is to find ways to keep fossil fuels as our main source of energy. The Exxon-funded GW denial industry failed to calm the winds, but the fossil FOOLS continue to play the stall game when it comes to weaning ourselves off of fossil fuels and embrace renewable energy.

Canada will not achieve any dominance in the new technologies sector when we trail California and Europe in reducing dependance on fossil fuels. Those jusistictions are beating Kyoto targets by using solar power, wind power, and bio-fuels. DUH!!!

Arnold Schwartzenegger, also from the conservative side of the policital spectrum,has a different plan, likely because California does not have fossil fuels to support the politicians like Harper's base in Alberta. Arnold is going to put solar panels on the roofs of a million houses!!

He also has declared that 33% of all power that comes from utilities must be from renewable sources - Now THATS taking real action compared to this weak Technology Fund announcement of Lunn's.

The Canadian announcment had only fossil fuels and nuclear industry supporting programs, which Lunn called "cleaning up conventional energy".

"Nuclear, clean coal, tar sands cleaner, carbon sequestering" - these are the programs that Lunn mentioned. All of them will help the heavy industry sector stay profitable, which is all Harper really wants to do. They said that $230 million is to be spent on 'some of these ideas'... no committments to any particular one of these programs.

The main focus seemed to be a message for the corporate side, repeating the phrase that Canada must/will become an "energy superpower" in the world. Allways that competitive spirit, even if it does mean missing the point that we are facing an immense crisis in climate change from fossil fuel emissions.

On the positive side, Lunn did mention the seriousness of continued emissions, as well as the issue of efficiency [only 5% of the energy in fuels we use is actually used, the rest is lost as heat].

Unfortunately, there is a limit, a rather low one at that, of how much these measures announced by Lunn today will actually cut our greenhouse gasses emissions - Glen Murray, the chair of the national roundtable on environment and the economy said clean energy technologies will not help Canada meet its first targets set under the Kyoto Protocol ; he said Canada is lagging behind other countries in the development of environmental technology. Instead of beating Kyoto targets like other places are managing to do, Murray said that Canada will have a hard time in meeting any targets set under the protocol. Kyoto is merely a starting point and much bigger reductions in fossil fuel emissions are needed to actually reduce the threat.

We remain locked into the corporate culture of retreat from responsibility.
 

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Env Minister Gary Lunn today announced the "Eco Energy Technology Initiative" to battle the global warming crisis.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/17/clean-energy.html


However, Lunn did not state the source of the crisis he is apparently addressing, which is: "fossil fuels emissions that cause global warming and climate changes". Nope, he didn't say it. That is because the agenda here is to find ways to keep fossil fuels as our main source of energy. The Exxon-funded GW denial industry failed to calm the winds, but the fossil FOOLS continue to play the stall game when it comes to weaning ourselves off of fossil fuels and embrace renewable energy.

Canada will not achieve any dominance in the new technologies sector when we trail California and Europe in reducing dependance on fossil fuels. Those jusistictions are beating Kyoto targets by using solar power, wind power, and bio-fuels. DUH!!!

Arnold Schwartzenegger, also from the conservative side of the policital spectrum,has a different plan, likely because California does not have fossil fuels to support the politicians like Harper's base in Alberta. Arnold is going to put solar panels on the roofs of a million houses!!

He also has declared that 33% of all power that comes from utilities must be from renewable sources - Now THATS taking real action compared to this weak Technology Fund announcement of Lunn's.

The Canadian announcment had only fossil fuels and nuclear industry supporting programs, which Lunn called "cleaning up conventional energy".

"Nuclear, clean coal, tar sands cleaner, carbon sequestering" - these are the programs that Lunn mentioned. All of them will help the heavy industry sector stay profitable, which is all Harper really wants to do. They said that $230 million is to be spent on 'some of these ideas'... no committments to any particular one of these programs.

The main focus seemed to be a message for the corporate side, repeating the phrase that Canada must/will become an "energy superpower" in the world. Allways that competitive spirit, even if it does mean missing the point that we are facing an immense crisis in climate change from fossil fuel emissions.

On the positive side, Lunn did mention the seriousness of continued emissions, as well as the issue of efficiency [only 5% of the energy in fuels we use is actually used, the rest is lost as heat].

Unfortunately, there is a limit, a rather low one at that, of how much these measures announced by Lunn today will actually cut our greenhouse gasses emissions - Glen Murray, the chair of the national roundtable on environment and the economy said clean energy technologies will not help Canada meet its first targets set under the Kyoto Protocol ; he said Canada is lagging behind other countries in the development of environmental technology. Instead of beating Kyoto targets like other places are managing to do, Murray said that Canada will have a hard time in meeting any targets set under the protocol. Kyoto is merely a starting point and much bigger reductions in fossil fuel emissions are needed to actually reduce the threat.

We remain locked into the corporate culture of retreat from responsibility.

I watched some of the announcment but like you say we remain locked into the Corporate Security Complex, now that's real terror.:wave: If we can't make big bucks saving the environment we ain't going to.
 

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Unfortunately, most of these people haven't yet realized that in economic terms it's cheaper to be environmentally sensitive than it is to be careless. Just ask Florida about the everglades. Or Colorado about killing all the wolves off. Or the guy across the street from me who ran a "recycling" yard. Spilled PCBs, engine oil, and all kindsa stuff over there. Made a pretty good buck but it killed any profits he made when the gov't made him clean it up before he could sell the place. He ended up selling the place to pay off the debt of cleanup. Then he died.
One could ask the United Keno Mine owners about how much they're spending on the mine at Elsa, Yukon after they shut it down in 1989.
 

Karlin

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I watched some of the announcment but like you say we remain locked into the Corporate Security Complex, now that's real terror. If we can't make big bucks saving the environment we ain't going to.

I should add that there is lots of money to be made in a 'fossil fuel free economy' on that green technology too, but this is a matter of "which corporations get to make the profits".

Harper's power base is associated with oil. so we get this kind of approach to global warming [nada].
 

Karlin

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Update - Renewable Energy Announcement

Well well well, I have to eat my shorts!! All my pontificating about protecting fossil FOOLS and their dirty energy seems to be wrong - now the Harper Govt. is announcing direct competition for fossil fuels in renewable energy projects.

Called the Eco Energy Renewable Power Initiative, it will provide money for new projects in wind, solar, tidal, geothermal and biomass energy.

The money will support projects capable of generating 4,000 megawatts of renewable energy — enough electricity for about 1.5 million homes or four times the amount of renewable energy Canada has right now.

http://tinyurl.com/2o8utj

However, it is pointed out in this article that these renewable energy projects are all very similiar to the Liberal programs announced in the 2005 "green budget".

Therefore, Harper's govt is just erasing the mistakes they made in cancelling these same programs. Harper did manage to create a year or two of delay though, so maybe my original hypothesis is still right.

'Renewable energy' is so beneficial economically and environementally because once they are set up, there is only a small maintenance cost and the project provides basically free, and clean, energy over its usefull lifetime. That might be 50 years of pumping out 1000Giga watts every day, for eg., in a solar panel rooftop project that might also provide shade in city areas like rooftops or parking lots [see Google Project] and thereby reduce cooling costs.

Renewable energy projects have many side-benefits, compared to the many drawbacks to fossil fuels like unhealthy pollution, greenhouse gases, use of water in extraction and processing, etc etc etc.

Mostly , however, the worst thing about fossil fuels as our main source of energy is that it has created an Elite Wealthy class, and breaking down their domination of the energy markets will help re-distribute some of that wealth to other deserving people.

Google's Solar Project:
http://tinyurl.com/29rgsu
"Most of the solar panels will sit on the rooftops of office buildings in the Googleplex -- the pet name for the site. Others will provide shaded parking as part of newly constructed solar-panel canopies over existing Google car parking lots."