Gurmant in Trouble Again.

mrmom2

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Harper said he's going to wait to get the facts and he's suspicous of the timing of the allegations 8O puleeease what a load of shit :x
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Gurmant in Trouble Ag

I don't think people are going to forget this.

I'm wondering even more about Geoff Norquay quitting now. Did he know there were more tapes?
 

jimmy123

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Gurmant Grewal seems to be shadier than a beer tent at the Canadian National Exhibition.

I still would like to know if he is even a legitimate citizen of Canada given the alleged swindle he pulled to fast-track his Canadian status by apparently "investing" money in a Canadian business intended to create jobs, then yanking his money out of that business the next day. To date, I have not heard anything to the contrary as to how he legitimately met this requirement if he did indeed pull his money out of the investment so quickly in an effort to scam the system.

This latest issue of allegedly tucking political contributions he received into his own pocket (or doing something with the money other than using it to legitimately fund his election campaign) also stinks to the high heavens. If it was all a mistake, why didn't he simply issue the tax receipts when the doners told him that they didn't receive their receipts? How long does it take to issue a tax receipt if you are doing everything above-board?

This guy has more issues than the entire Sport Illustrated magazine collection.

Also, this statement just in from Mr. Grewal's wife: " _______________________".

Sorry to make light of this situation.....it is so appalling that it's almost humourous.

How on earth can Stephen Harper claim to want to run an honest, straight-as-an-arrow government if he refuses to do anything more than give Grewal "stess leave" with full pay? Unless Grewal is clean as a whistle re. all these issues, Harper will look bad. It's pretty hard to hammer on the Liberals for their corruption and shady operations when you have a guy in your own caucus who makes most Liberals look like Theodore Roosevelt by comparison.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Gurmant in Trouble Ag

It doesn't matter who they have ties to MMMike. He took money in a way that was illegal. Before that he was making secret tape recordings. Before that he was taking money to get people into the country. Before that he pretended to invest in a business to gain citizenship. Before that he was either cozy with a dictator or he later lied about being cozy with a dictator to fill out his resume.

For Harper to say that he stands behind this guy is for Harper to say that he has no integrity whasoever as long as there are asses in the blue seats.

Harper should at least be distancing himself from Grewal. Most political analysts think he should be booting Grewal out of the party and calling for a full investigation. Instead he's saying that he stands behind Grewal. From a perfectly non-partisan point of view, that's politically inept and undermines any points Harper makes about about Liberal corruption. From a partisan point of view, it points to criminality within the CPC going a lot higher than Grewal.
 

Cosmo

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MMMike said:
Surprise, surprise.... the two people accusing Grewal of not giving reciepts just happen to have close ties to none other than Ujjal Dosing.

See link here:
http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=946b6c49-fdc3-46ee-a508-6145ccae17b8

This is nothing but a smear campaign - typical Lieberal action to getting caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

Not sure how you are equating the two. Dhahan made a contribution to the Grewals, no receipt was issued, Grewal does not deny it. The cheque was endorsed by Grewal. Period. Who Dhahan knows or plays with is irrelevant. He couldn't smear Grewal if the man was above board. The Grewals admit to receiving the money so why not issue a receipt if it was used for legal purposes?

There has to be something more behind it or Grewal would have given Dhahan the receipt just to shut him up and prevent the bad publicity. You don't really have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.

Are the Liberals smearing him? Sure. That's politics, baby. Does he deserve it? Yes. If he was honest, they would have no case.
 

Vanni Fucci

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Re: RE: Gurmant in Trouble Ag

Reverend Blair said:
For Harper to say that he stands behind this guy is for Harper to say that he has no integrity whasoever as long as there are asses in the blue seats.

I just think that Harper doesn't want to lose his token ethnic MPs...

Unless, of course, he is involved in these scandals...which I wouldn't doubt either... :idea:
 

MMMike

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Reverend Blair said:
Unless, of course, he is involved in these scandals...which I wouldn't doubt either...

I've been wondering a lot about that. Why is Harper hanging onto this guy? Does Grewal have something on him?

For the same reason Martin is holding onto Murphy, Dosignth, Sgro, etc....................
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: Gurmant in Trouble Ag

Nice try, but none of them have a list like Grewal's.

Sgro is out of cabinet, Dosanj and Murphy are under whatever investigations are happening because of Grewal's tapes...something that the Conservatives also resisted as much as they could.

You want to scream about a complete lack of integrity? I was watching CPAC last night, re-runs of committee meetings from May. One committee was all about money and the Auditor General's recommendations. They had to cancel the meeting because the Conservatives, including the committee chair, didn't show up for work. They didn't have quorum and, as a result, could do no work. There were witnesses ready to testify, there were entire departments in limbo because the money was tied up in committee.

The Conservatives didn't have enough integrity to show up and do the jobs we pay them to do. Not only that, but they were costing us money in wasted salaries for government employees and wasted expenses for witnesses. You want people to vote for a party that refuses to do their jobs? Not going to happen.
 

MMMike

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There was no government business happening, in committee or in the House of Commons. The business of running the nation had long since ground to a halt... Martin had already lost the confidence of the House.... The business of running the nation had long since given ground to the business of keeping the Lieberals in power.

Please Rev. When it comes to corruption, the Conservatives are amatures. The Liberals are the only game in town!
 

MMMike

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Rev, this government could take a permanent vacation & it wouldn't make a lick of difference. I wish they would...
 

bevvyd

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I think Gurmy is being held onto by Harper because his vote is needed. If he were to step down and a by-election called they probably wouldn't win the seat back in light of Gurmy's antics.

As for this tax receipt not being issued. Gurmy said it went for other political party things and it was before all the rules got changed so it's perfectly legit. Gymnastic accounting principals not doubt.

His wife sure hasn't said much during this whole thing. Being an MP and all one could only assume that she would want to be present during a meeting with Ujjy and other top liberal members. And one of these meetings was held in her own house. Makes you wonder what other meetings should would not attend if this one wasn't worth her time.

As for those tapes, I've read what that so called sound engineer from Snottawa had to say and all I've got to say it is it THE most unprofessional Engineering report I have ever read. No equipment type was listed, no calibration dates offered, no ANSI or ASTM/ASME or SAE or AISI standards referred to. Heck any first year engineering student could write up something better than that but they would never be so stupid enough to submit it as they'd probably get kicked out for being so stupid and lazy.
 

timson

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Re: RE: Gurmant in Trouble Again.

LeftCoast said:
You know if we could just collect some of the grease that oozes from Grewal - talk about bio-diesel.


More like a bio-hazard of the bovine shiste kind. What an utter embarrasment this fool is. Harper wants him around for no other reason than a little added colour...and that folks is in itself a form of racism...ick. :pukeleft: