Green Party

Calberty

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Basic said:
Doryman said:
Hah. I doubt you'd really be far off. Most of the ones in St. John's are half-baked Philosophy majors who live off Ramen Noodles. One candidate is running his campaign on his own finances, out of his own apartment. What a winner..
So what is so bad about that? If he is anything like the Green party member in my riding, he works full time and is a useful member of society while running in the election.
Why should one be rich to win?


Maybe that's another reason the NDP leader wholeheartedly endorses Svend 'Sticky Fingers' Robinson as a candidate. The NDP candidates have an image to maintain and what could be better than sporting a $50,000 ring. Ramen noodles for NDP candidates? Never.
 

Jersay

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Maybe that's another reason the NDP leader wholeheartedly endorses Svend 'Sticky Fingers' Robinson as a candidate. The NDP candidates have an image to maintain and what could be better than sporting a $50,000 ring. Ramen noodles for NDP candidates? Never.

I think you actually have some deep hidden feelings for Svend, because you talk about him all the time. :wink:

You can tell us. :D
 

Calberty

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Jersay said:
Maybe that's another reason the NDP leader wholeheartedly endorses Svend 'Sticky Fingers' Robinson as a candidate. The NDP candidates have an image to maintain and what could be better than sporting a $50,000 ring. Ramen noodles for NDP candidates? Never.

I think you actually have some deep hidden feelings for Svend, because you talk about him all the time. :wink:

You can tell us. :D

Na, Svend is much more attractive to dippers. 'Svend the Thief' is their idea of a star candidate. Why let a major theft get in the way of taking a stand on integrity.
 

Jersay

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Na, Svend is much more attractive to dippers. 'Svend the Thief' is their idea of a star candidate. Why let a major theft get in the way of taking a stand on integrity.

:lol:

If this is what green party supporters are like, then the Green party can have it.

At least, the NDP doesn't have a tolitarian leader and a party that doesn't go against Election Canadas guidelines.
 

Finder

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For electoral reform. The NDP appear to support MMP which is a mix of FPTP and PR. The last study I saw on MMP in Canada had 208 seats FPTP and 100 PR

The Green Party seems to still support Pure PR, but I have seen some policy of support for weaker MMP where most the Seats would be PR and the rest would be FPTP.

Just like the economic, envirormental and even democratic reform the NDP is more in touch with how Canada operates. Pure PR or a weak FPTP in a MMP would harm Canada's electoral system and accountability.
 

Basic

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But it's not like they are going to become the government at this point anyways. At this point, especially with the evident lack of environmental concern by the Conservatives (who are likely to win the election) we need a strong voice from the Greens now more than ever.
 

Basic

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Jersay said:
But, the Green don't really have a chance except for Vancouver Island. So I don't know how one person can do the job of maybe (43) people can.
Last I heard they were in the running in about 6 ridings. That may not be the case now. At any rate, every vote gives them funding $ so I figure that will at least help them small amounts.
 

Jersay

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I'm not going to stop you from voting Green. But because it was or still is a leftist-form of party, with progressive thought on the environment and other issues, I think the 3.5% to 7% support it gets nationally would help the NDP out greatly with its 20% support. And then with undecided voters numbering around 12% the NDP could form government.

But that is not a reality sadly.

So if you want to vote Green. Do it, it is better than Liberal or Conservative.
 

poligeek

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There's actually another thread on the Green Party in the Federal Election section, but I think it fizzled a little bit and is now back about three pages.

It's interesting on that one people were convinced that the Green Party had become too right wing.

I decided to read through the election platforms and do some research this election, to figure out had the Green Party gone right wing? Is the NDP environmental policy better? Had the Green Party declared a stance on PR? etc....

Overall here's what I found out after reading the platforms and submitting some questions.

On PR:

The Green Party stongly supports Proportional Representation, Jim Harris works with Fair Vote Canada, and the Green Party along with representatives from all other parties sit on the board. Fair Vote has not come out in favour of any one particular form of PR, however they do ask for citizen's assemblies where peole should have the chance to be educated about PR, and then a referrendum question.

There are many Green's who are in favour of MMP, but the Green Party itself has not passed any resolutions supporting one form of PR over another.

On Environmental Platforms:

I was really surprized when people began touting the NDP Environmental platform as "greener" than the Green Party. I think the major argument was that Greenpeace and the Sierra club had endorsed the NDP platform.

After reading both parties platform I have to say the Green party platform had consistent and thought out environmental policy that they admit is a long term goal and it runs consistently into other areas of their platform, making a very cohesive well thought out policy platform.

The NDP's platofrom with respect to environmentalism this year seemed really week. It was evident that the NDP platform, like the Liberal and Conservative was put together not as one unified document, but as the campaign emerged with reference to what polls indicated voters were responding to. I found the NDP section on the environment very shot, low on detail and not solution driven.

My theory (and this is purely my own suspicion) is that the Green Party lost many former NDPers during the red-green split that happened mid 1990s the NDP has more connections and financial power and was probably better able to get their platform in front of large organizations like Green Peace and Sierra club, who would endorse the NDP platform over the Liberal or Conservative, but the Green Platform may not have even been present.

On Left or Right:

I think I would have trouble firmly pegging the Greens, they have definately become more fiscally conservative, but they are much more socially progressive than the new Conservative party. Generally they're my favourite type of conservative, they are conservationists, and don't adhere to social conservatism.

Has anyone else done a platform comparison, I'd love to discuss that, but think that I may be the only nerd who read the silly things.