Girl pregnant....aged 11.

[JonB2004]

Yes, I think that people should make the decisions regarding their own bodies, but allowing teenagers to get pregnant is decreasing Canada's quality of life.

That kid is going to live a life in poverty. So is the mother.

But like I said before. Who am I? I don't know anything. :roll:

 

[LittleRunningGag]

Yes, I think that people should make the decisions regarding their own bodies, but allowing teenagers to get pregnant is decreasing Canada's quality of life.

Her quality of life, not yours. it isn't your decision. Sexual education is the key, not enforcing your values upon others. This is the same regardless of whether you are pro-life, pro-choice, pro-abortion.

But like I said before. Who am I? I don't know anything. :roll:

:roll:

WTF is this?

 

[JonB2004]

But like I said before. Who am I? I don't know anything. :roll:

:roll:

WTF is this?

I was just saying that you adults always think you know better.

 

[fuzzylogix]

JonB, you're wrong in the assumption that their lives would be ruined. But you are right in that it can be a financial burden and prevent them from going to school. However, this is where society should step in and help any disadvantaged mother so she can go to school despite having a child.

Not all children born to young mothers live in poverty. And not all children born to young mothers are unwanted even if they are unplanned.

Abortion is not the golden answer to difficult pregancies. Abortion has serious physical and emotional issues that themselves can damage a girl's life.

Abortion may be an option where the mother is physically or emotionally unable to handle a pregnancy but it cannot used as a solution to a problem.

The irony of the above case is that this child will likely be born into a family that is dysfunctional and wants the child for all the wrong reasons, but which loves and cares for the child albeit in a way which most of us find unacceptable.

Far more important than pregnancy even, these days, is the risk of disease such as HIV. Kids still arent getting this message across that they have to protect themselves, and still there is argument about teaching sex ed in school. Lets get these kids better educated.

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Girl pregnant....aged 11.

Boy do I love the Human Race. You can tell in the article that this girl's problem is most likely a result of her mother's horrible parenting. Good times.

Possible, but that's a big leap you're making there. Sometimes the kids ofthe best parents turn out the worst, and sometimes the kids of the worse parents turn out great.

 

[FiveParadox]

JonB2004, one of my best friends on this planet got pregnant before she was eighteen — and yes, I am a teenager, so you aren't going to be able to divert eyes with your sarcastic quips this time. Her kid is doing great, she is doing great, they are fine financially, and she would never have aborted him.

However, that was her decision to make.

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Girl pregnant....aged 11.

wow-JonB! That's a very radical postion!!!! In many cases these girls will get an abortion, but it should NEVER be forced upon them.

As for the guy, this is statutory rape, so it becomes a case of whether or not you charge a minor with this serious crime.

As for the mother, well obviously if the girl was out drinking and having sex, mum wasnt exactly keeping an eye on her.

I take back my previous post. It does seem the mother was negligent. Unless this girl was really hard headed to delinquent proportions. As for starutory rape, seems true in this article according to UK law. But in some countries one is considered an adult fully capable of making his own decisions by the age of 15. But 11?! She'd still be considered a minor even in those nations! And most nations accipting this at the age of 11 probably don't have any law regarding this, or we're dealing with naitons in bad shape economically, politically or otherwise.

 

[Machjo]

Little Running Gag, I can't see why you would be angry about what I said. :?

Anyone under 18 who gets pregnant should be forced to have an abortion because having a baby pretty much ruins their life.

They can't have a proper education because they have to take care of the baby. Then, they will never have a good life because they will spend the rest of their life working some minimum wage convienence store job because they have no education.

But who am I? I'm just some dumbass teenager who doesn't know what he's talking about and you adults know everything. :roll:

You have to consider the psychological and medical repercussions of abortion too. Beyond that, I've seen young single mothers succeed with parental help and support. And they love their children. You have to look beyond the material side of it. We're humans, not machines.

 

[MagnoliaApples]

Re: RE: Girl pregnant....aged 11.

It was a 15 yr old who knocked her up, what's he and his parents saying? Actually, ya, it's more his fault than hers. He must have coerced her in some way, provided the alkyhol she was drinking too.

I think it's her fault. It's her body. It's her decision. I doubt that he 'coerced' her at all. I've seen and read about how young the kids that are having sex are these days. It's crazy!

She probably wanted to, so she did and she got preganant. Girls are just as bad as boys when it comes to that kind of stuff. Girls also mature faster than guys. The fact that she got pregnant indicates that she was already menstruating which also indicates that, hormonally, she was already experiencing sexual maturity - not totally, of course, considering her age, but she was in the beginning phase. She knew what she was doing. She just wasn't being very smart!

And you know what they say about what curiosity did to the cat.

 

[JonB2004]

JonB2004, one of my best friends on this planet got pregnant before she was eighteen — and yes, I am a teenager, so you aren't going to be able to divert eyes with your sarcastic quips this time. Her kid is doing great, she is doing great, they are fine financially, and she would never have aborted him.

However, that was her decision to make.

Yeah, that was probably one the very few teen pregnancies that turned out fine. Most of them turn out badly.

 

[Machjo]

Yes, I think that people should make the decisions regarding their own bodies, but allowing teenagers to get pregnant is decreasing Canada's quality of life.

That kid is going to live a life in poverty. So is the mother.

But like I said before. Who am I? I don't know anything. :roll:

I'm poorer now than I used to be. Much poorer in fact. I used to be an interpreter in Canada. Came to China for a year, fell in love with it, along with the pollution, noise, smelly tofu, cigarette smoke, crowded trains, etc. etc. etc. and would simply not have it any otehr way. I could never go back to Canada long term because that is no longer where my heart is. If my heart sat in a calculator, for sure I'd go back to canada, because from a strictly materialistic standpoint, it would be mathematiclly. But there is much more to life. Much more. That child could bring this girl a joy no money could ever buy. And again, consider possible life-long emotional scars which can be caused by forced abortion.

 

[LittleRunningGag]

But like I said before. Who am I? I don't know anything. :roll:

:roll:

WTF is this?

I was just saying that you adults always think you know better.

First off, who are you calling an adult? I have maybe three years on you. Quit calling me old. :?

Second, this is a discussion, people are going to disagree with you. Get over it.

I wanted to offer a comparison that I thought of. I see it the same as forcing low income Canadians to have abortions because their kids would have lower quality of life than the kids born to wealthy Canadians.

 

[IR1337]

I believe that anyone under 18 who gets pregnant should be forced to have an abortion.

Dude, that's sick.

 

[dekhqonbacha]

she is a child somehow.
she has an experience with her yongest brothers, but being a mom must be different because she will be responsible all the time.

 

[glossprincess]

I've worked as an aupair (live-in nanny) when I was 17/18 and people that age just arent meant to take care of children, especially babies. They're only children themselves! Its just too much work and you're still too selfish at that age to be a parent.

 

[Blackleaf]

Re: RE: Girl pregnant....aged 11.

Hey Tracy, how old was your mom?

Actually, ya, it's more his fault than hers.

How is it? How do you know that she wasn't forcing HIM to have sex with HER?

For all we know, she probably went to him, acted in a "sexy" way, and then told him to take his clothes off and f**k her.

If I was Prime Minister, I'd make sure she gets into trouble, too. Not only was he breaking the law for having sex under the age of 16, but so was she, as she was 11.

I'd lock them BOTH up and make the girl's mother look after the kid. The girl's mother who said she was PROUD of what she did.

 

[Blackleaf]

It reminds me of that BBC comedy series, Little Britain. It has two main actors in it - both gay men, David Walliams and Matt Lucas - but they both play hundreds of different characters, both male and female. They can both do lots of different British accents. The characters they play are the kind of people you find in real life in modern Britain.

My favourite character is schoolgirl Vicky Pollard, one of the characters played Matt Lucas. She's the typical modern British schoolgirl - not very intelligent, smokes and drinks a lot, has no respect for authority, is as ugly as a bulldog chewing a wasp - and has hundreds of babies.

Teenage mother Vicky Pollard with her many babies.

Schoolgirl Vicky Pollard (Matt Lucas)

Vicky with her boyfriend and her friends.

Apparently, Matt Lucas based Vicky Pollard on a real schoolgirl that he saw on the front cover of a magazine.

My favourite Vicky Pollard sketch -

(Teenage mother Vicky is talking to her social worker)

Social worker - "Vicky, can I see your baby, please?"

Vicky - "You can't. I don't have her anymore."

Social worker - "What do you mean?"

Vicky - "I swapped her for a Westlife CD."

Social worker - "Vicky, that's awful! How can you do such a thing?"

Vicky - "I know. They are rubbish!"

The social worker worker just looks at her, horrified.

Vicky - "DON'T GO GIVING ME EVILS!"

 

[Blackleaf]

Some more Vicky Pollard quotes -

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Vicky Pollard: Anyway don't listen to her coz everyone knows her fanny goes sideways.

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Teacher: [Teenage mum Vicky has walked out of the class after giving them a talk on teenage pregnancy and and left the pram with her baby in behind] Vicky aren't you going to take your baby?

Vicky Pollard: No don't worry I've got loads at home.

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Vicky Pollard: What did you do that for, you total virgin!

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Vicky Pollard: Stop giving me evils!
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Vicky Pollard: She's got her own council flat and three kids and she's only nine.
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Bus Conductor: Look, I've warned you before. If you don't have a ticket you're gonna have to get off.

Vicky Pollard: Oh, my God! That is so unfair! This is like, well sexual harassment! If you like, fancy me why don't you just say so? God, this is exactly like the time Miss Rennig, who everyone knows is a total lesbian, made Candice Burton stay behind after PE, started telling her off for gobbing on Sunita Geschwani's hair. But everyone knows she only made her stay late because she wanted to get off with her, cuz when she was telling her off her legs were wide open and Candice reckons she could see her spider.

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Vicky Pollard: No, but yeah, but no, because if you don't let me in then Blazin' Squad are well gonna give you beatings because I've actually already met them already anyway, actually, down at the Radio 1 Roadshow at Weston Super-Mare!
[to friend]

Vicky Pollard: You remember, it was the time I got fingered by Chris Mars and Hayley Evers reckons she saw Joe Wylans taking a dump in the sea.
[to bouncer]

Vicky Pollard: But, anyway I have met Blazin' Squad and they said I should definitely come backstage and see 'em and do 'em, and anyway I do know them already because I'm their assistant. And if Rowan Gordon says I'm not then don't listen to him because everyone knows he's mental because he once shoved his knob through Miss Mayal's letterbox.

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Police Officer: You do know it's an offence to waste police time?

Vicky Pollard: No, but, yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but, no, but, yeah but I know because I'm not wasting police time because you know Micha? Well, she saw the whole thing, right, because she was bunking off school because she was gonna go down the wimbley and get off with Luke Griffiths, only she never because he's been trying to grow a moustache but it just looks like pubes, so she got off with Luke Torbet instead, only don't tell Bethany that because she's fancied Luke Torbet ever since she flashed her fanny at him during Home Ec'.
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That 12 year old girl will be a dead ringer for the obnoxious Vicky Pollard.

 

[missile]

Wonder when the Americans will try to adapt this show for their own audiences? When they do, it'll be an utter failure because it just doesn't translate! I love this show , and Shameless,too.

 

[Finder]

The girl, who smokes despite being heavily pregnant, said: "I didn't think I'd get pregnant because it was my first time. But I'm really excited and looking forward to being a mum."

Wow... maybe this brings out the conservative side in me, but anyone else just thinks this is completely wrong.


Anyhow my (birth) mother was barely 18 when I was born, she would have been preggers when she was 17 I believe and actually gave birth to me a day after her 18th birthday. (not making this up). My birth mothers birthday is Jan 10th and mine is Jan the 11th.

Anyhow I can't believe 11 years olds are running around having sex in western nations. I remember when I was 11, I can't imagine having the want, nor maturity to handle anything like this. Also she is not mature enough at 11 to have a child.

Just odd