George Galloway British MP Speaks

#juan

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I tend to side with Galloway because I agree with him that the Iraq war and all the killing and destruction that war entailed was started on a "pack of lies".

Don't get me wrong though, I also believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions and while I much prefer, that my opinions are accepted as the right ones, that is not always the case. Ah well...:p
 

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(he's not that honest...ask his mistress and 2 year old kid)


Norm Coleman has been photographed in the company of several women and seen openly dining with them. His wife lives in California but for appearances sake she campaigns with him. Otherwise she lives thousands of miles away. Unconfirmed rumors of his alternate lifestyle includes allegations of same sex affairs. I have not personally seen that but this has been adamantly stated by local witnesses. Because of Minnesota's tolerant views towards alternate lifestyles this has not been an issue here.
 

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A terrorist appeaser and Saddam sympathizer, big surprise you like him.


Always the same song, what you peoples describes as terrorist appeaser and saddam appeaser, is someone who speak his mind, completly ridicoulus.
 

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Daz_Hockey said:
(he's not that honest...ask his mistress and 2 year old kid)

What does his personal life have to do with politics. Everybody's human. Nobody's perfect. I suppose you have "never" cheated or been the person-on- the- side. In a perfect world, I'm sure we would all wish our so-called "role models" were flawless. In higher career positions the temptation is always greater cause you become a target. It's like owning the most popular bar in a big city & trying to respect your partner or like putting "Rockstar + happy home" in the same sentence!!! :wink:

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(if only we could be as perfect as "I" :lol: )
 

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Logic 7 said:
I think not said:
A terrorist appeaser and Saddam sympathizer, big surprise you like him.


Always the same song, what you peoples describes as terrorist appeaser and saddam appeaser, is someone who speak his mind, completly ridicoulus.

Oh I see, but when someone draws a cartoon that offends a prophet it's not speaking someones mind, it must be silenced. I'm glad you're not in a position of authority.
 

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#juan said:
A terrorist appeaser and Saddam sympathizer, big surprise you like him.

I guess it is easy to toss off a childish, sarcastic, unsupported one liner to put down someone like George Galloway, who has never come out in support of either terrorists or Saddam Hussein. This sarcastic disdain is an insult to the topic author as well as the other posters.

Oh, I'm sorry #juan, I was under the impression you didn't think much of him either ever since he started bashing Canadians.

http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114144&highlight=galloway#114144

#juan said:
As far as I'm concerned, Galloway is an idiot who can't see past his big red nose. I won't go into the many building and reconstruction projects Canadian soldiers have been involved in, or that Afghanis in all areas ask to have Canadian soldiers in their area.

Or is he brilliant only when he bashes the US?

Can you say Flip Flop? :!:

I think you had better edit your post ITN. I said nothing about anyone's big red nose. I don't know where you got that quote, but it was not from me. FIX IT!
 

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#juan said:
I think not said:
#juan said:
A terrorist appeaser and Saddam sympathizer, big surprise you like him.

I guess it is easy to toss off a childish, sarcastic, unsupported one liner to put down someone like George Galloway, who has never come out in support of either terrorists or Saddam Hussein. This sarcastic disdain is an insult to the topic author as well as the other posters.

Oh, I'm sorry #juan, I was under the impression you didn't think much of him either ever since he started bashing Canadians.

http://www.canadiancontent.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=114144&highlight=galloway#114144

#juan said:
As far as I'm concerned, Galloway is an idiot who can't see past his big red nose. I won't go into the many building and reconstruction projects Canadian soldiers have been involved in, or that Afghanis in all areas ask to have Canadian soldiers in their area.

Or is he brilliant only when he bashes the US?

Can you say Flip Flop? :!:

I think you had better edit your post ITN. I said nothing about anyone's big red nose. I don't know where you got that quote, but it was not from me. FIX IT!

Uhm yes you did, didn't you click on the link? The very last post is yours.

Let's try this again.

http://www.canadiancontent.net/en/j...wtopic.php?p=114144&highlight=galloway#114144

#juan said:
And this guy goes on and on.

http://tinyurl.com/98dh7

Canada complicit in Iraq war, British MP says

MISSISSAUGA, Ont. (CP) - Despite its refusal to fight in Iraq, Canada is complicit in the U.S. war on terrorism and should withdraw from Afghanistan, an outspoken left-wing British MP said Saturday.

"I'm amazed that so many people in Canada believe they're not a part of this crime," George Galloway said at the sixth annual conference of the Islamic Circle of North America and the Muslim Association of Canada.

"Canada has sent an army of 1,000 soldiers to occupy the Muslim country of Afghanistan (and ships to the Persian Gulf)," Galloway said.

"Your ships in the Gulf and your soldiers in Afghanistan are doing the dirty work of George W. Bush and Tony Blair. They are freeing American ships and soldiers to go to Fallujah and massacre the people of Iraq."

Galloway also called Canada's reputation as peacekeepers a lie."

As far as I'm concerned, Galloway is an idiot who can't see past his big red nose. I won't go into the many building and reconstruction projects Canadian soldiers have been involved in, or that Afghanis in all areas ask to have Canadian soldiers in their area.

Whenever you're ready I'll accept your apology.
 

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#juan wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Galloway is an idiot who can't see past his big red nose. I won't go into the many building and reconstruction projects Canadian soldiers have been involved in, or that Afghanis in all areas ask to have Canadian soldiers in their area.

ITN Can you say out of context? You went to a topic from a year ago when Galloway was speaking with an Islamic group in Canada. Is it too much to ask that we stick to the current topic.
 

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come on guys, lets get to the point, he's not a very good MP, it's been demonstrated by what he's actually done for his constituants, now it might sound glamourous or indeed heroic that he's taking on the might of Bush and Blair over Iraq.....but who cares?, is he going to beat them?...no, what will this achive?.....nothing...my point is:

He's a glamour seeking MP...THAT IS IT

Ok as canadians and Americans you like to argue the moral right and wrongs of the man, but the simple FACT is...he's employed to do a job which frankly he's not doing and is just playing up to the international media....and he's got you hook line and sinker.
 

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#juan said:
#juan wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Galloway is an idiot who can't see past his big red nose. I won't go into the many building and reconstruction projects Canadian soldiers have been involved in, or that Afghanis in all areas ask to have Canadian soldiers in their area.

ITN Can you say out of context? You went to a topic from a year ago when Galloway was speaking with an Islamic group in Canada. Is it too much to ask that we stick to the current topic.

I'm on topic, Logic 7 posted an article from last year. Last year you called him an idiot, this year he's a great man. Let's see what next year brings.
 

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next year will bring the unemployment queue for him...trust me
 

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George Galloway has been correct all along -- years after 9/11 international terrorism is a far bigger menace than ever thanks to Bush and Blair's imperialism:


http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article1359854.ece



4 September 2006 09:47

The war on terror, five years on: an era of constant warfare

By Tom Coghlan in Kabul and Kim Sengupta
Published: 04 September 2006

Five years ago this week, the Taliban's al-Qa'ida allies made final preparations to launch devastating attacks on America that would precipitate the "war on terror," the US led invasion of Afghanistan and the subsequent invasion of Iraq.

Far from ending terrorism, George Bush's tactics of using overwhelming military might to fight extremism appear to have rebounded, spawning an epidemic of global terrorism that has claimed an estimated 72,265 lives since 2001, most of them Iraqi civilians.

The rest, some 30,626, according to official US figures, have been killed in a combination of terror attacks and counter-insurgency actions by the US and its allies. The figures were compiled by the US based National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (Mipt).

A US led-invasion swept away the Taliban regime in a matter of weeks, and did the same to Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party in 2003, but far from bringing stability and democracy to Afghanistan and Iraq, the outcome has been one of constant warfare. Yesterday hundreds of Nato troops, backed by warplanes and helicopter gunships, were involved in the offensive on the area, southwest of Kandahar, that has been a centre of Taliban resistance.

Nato said more than 200 Taliban fighters were killed in the fierce fighting in which four Canadian soldiers also died. Eighty Taliban fighters were captured.

The district where the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar, was born, south-west of Kandahar, is again under Taliban control, a situation mirrored across large swaths of the south of the country. The government of Hamid Karzai clings on to the cities of the south while Nato forces in Kandahar and Helmand are locked in an all-out war.

In Punjwai and Jerai districts south-west of Kandahar, as many as 1,500 Taliban fighters have been holding off repeated attempts by Afghan and Canadian soldiers to dislodge them since May. Their resistance has marked a new phase in the growing Taliban insurgency, an evolution from the hit-and-run raids by groups of eight to 15 fighters that characterised the attacks in the south previously to large bodies of fighters taking and holding territory.

Operation Medusa, the latest attempt to dislodge them, began on Saturday and involves some 2,000 troops. Highway 1, which links Kandahar to Lashkargar, has been cut since June. Yesterday Nato forces placed a ban on civilian movement along the road as helicopters and aircraft together with artillery pounded suspected Taliban positions.

In Iraq, three and a half years after the invasion, the situation remains equally dire and the numbers of Iraqi casualtieshas soared by 51 per cent according to US figures. Some 3,000 civilians are now dying every month in Iraq the Pentagon says.

President Bush has shifted his approach in an effort to shore up faltering public support for the war. No longer does he stress the benefits of securing peace in Iraq, but rather he is laying out the peril of a failure.

Observers of the President say that in recent weeks his language has become increasingly grim as he details what he believes would be the consequences of US withdrawal. "We can allow the Middle East to continue on its course ­ on the course it was headed before September the 11th," he said in a speech last week. "And a generation from now, our children will face a region dominated by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons. Or we can stop that from happening, by rallying the world to confront the ideology of hate and give the people of the Middle East a future of hope."

Away from such rhetoric, the situation on the ground in Iraq only appears to be getting worse. According to a new, grim assessment by the Pentagon, Iraqi civilians are increasingly suffering as a result of the violence and chaos.

In recent months the numbers of Iraqi casualties ­ both civilians and security forces - has soared by 51 per cent. The deaths are the result of a spiral in sectarian clashes as well as an ongoing insurgency against the US and UK occupation that remains "potent and viable". The average number of attacks of all types now stands at around 800 a week.

"Although the overall number of attacks increased in all categories, the proportion of those attacks directed against civilians increased substantially," the Pentagon report said. "Death squads and terrorists are locked in mutually reinforcing cycles of sectarian strife, with Sunni and Shia extremists each portraying themselves as the defenders of their respective sectarian groups."

The report said in the period since the establishment of an Iraqi government in mid-May and 11 August, Iraqi civilian and security personnel have been killed at a rate of around 120 a day. This is an increase from around 80 a day between mid-February to mid-May. Two years ago the number stood at 30 a day. Calculated over a year, the most recent rate of killings would equal more than 43,000 Iraqi casualties.

The Pentagon report, Measuring Security and Stability in Iraq, added: " The core conflict in Iraq changed into a struggle between Sunni and Shia extremists seeking to control key areas in Baghdad, create or protect sectarian enclaves, divert economic resources, and impose their own respective political and religious agendas."

While the Pentagon may seek to portray such sectarian violence as the biggest challenge, it admits that the anti-occupation insurgency remains strong.

Indeed other figures, released this summer by the US military, suggest attacks against US and Iraqi forces had doubled since January. The figures showed that in July US forces encountered 2,625 roadside bombs, of which 1,666 exploded and 959 were disarmed. In January, 1,454 bombs exploded or were found. The figures suggested that the insurgency had strengthened despite the killing of senior al-Qa'ida fighter, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in June.

Yesterday, the Iraqi authorities announced the arrest of a man they say is the second-in-command ofal-Qa'ida in Iraq. Iraq's national security adviser, Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, said Hamed Jumaa al-Saedi was detained a few days ago. Mr Rubaie said the man was behind the bombing of a Shia shrine in Samarra in February.

Five years ago this week, the Taliban's al-Qa'ida allies made final preparations to launch devastating attacks on America that would precipitate the "war on terror," the US led invasion of Afghanistan and the subsequent invasion of Iraq.

Far from ending terrorism, George Bush's tactics of using overwhelming military might to fight extremism appear to have rebounded, spawning an epidemic of global terrorism that has claimed an estimated 72,265 lives since 2001, most of them Iraqi civilians.

The rest, some 30,626, according to official US figures, have been killed in a combination of terror attacks and counter-insurgency actions by the US and its allies. The figures were compiled by the US based National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism (Mipt).

A US led-invasion swept away the Taliban regime in a matter of weeks, and did the same to Saddam Hussein's Ba'ath Party in 2003, but far from bringing stability and democracy to Afghanistan and Iraq, the outcome has been one of constant warfare. Yesterday hundreds of Nato troops, backed by warplanes and helicopter gunships, were involved in the offensive on the area, southwest of Kandahar, that has been a centre of Taliban resistance.

Nato said more than 200 Taliban fighters were killed in the fierce fighting in which four Canadian soldiers also died. Eighty Taliban fighters were captured.

The district where the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar, was born, south-west of Kandahar, is again under Taliban control, a situation mirrored across large swaths of the south of the country. The government of Hamid Karzai clings on to the cities of the south while Nato forces in Kandahar and Helmand are locked in an all-out war.

In Punjwai and Jerai districts south-west of Kandahar, as many as 1,500 Taliban fighters have been holding off repeated attempts by Afghan and Canadian soldiers to dislodge them since May. Their resistance has marked a new phase in the growing Taliban insurgency, an evolution from the hit-and-run raids by groups of eight to 15 fighters that characterised the attacks in the south previously to large bodies of fighters taking and holding territory.

Operation Medusa, the latest attempt to dislodge them, began on Saturday and involves some 2,000 troops. Highway 1, which links Kandahar to Lashkargar, has been cut since June. Yesterday Nato forces placed a ban on civilian movement along the road as helicopters and aircraft together with artillery pounded suspected Taliban positions.

In Iraq, three and a half years after the invasion, the situation remains equally dire and the numbers of Iraqi casualtieshas soared by 51 per cent according to US figures. Some 3,000 civilians are now dying every month in Iraq the Pentagon says.

President Bush has shifted his approach in an effort to shore up faltering public support for the war. No longer does he stress the benefits of securing peace in Iraq, but rather he is laying out the peril of a failure.

Observers of the President say that in recent weeks his language has become increasingly grim as he details what he believes would be the consequences of US withdrawal. "We can allow the Middle East to continue on its course ­ on the course it was headed before September the 11th," he said in a speech last week. "And a generation from now, our children will face a region dominated by terrorist states and radical dictators armed with nuclear weapons. Or we can stop that from happening, by rallying the world to confront the ideology of hate and give the people of the Middle East a future of hope."

Away from such rhetoric, the situation on the ground in Iraq only appears to be getting worse. According to a new, grim assessment by the Pentagon, Iraqi civilians are increasingly suffering as a result of the violence and chaos.

In recent months the numbers of Iraqi casualties ­ both civilians and security forces - has soared by 51 per cent. The deaths are the result of a spiral in sectarian clashes as well as an ongoing insurgency against the US and UK occupation that remains "potent and viable". The average number of attacks of all types now stands at around 800 a week.

"Although the overall number of attacks increased in all categories, the proportion of those attacks directed against civilians increased substantially," the Pentagon report said. "Death squads and terrorists are locked in mutually reinforcing cycles of sectarian strife, with Sunni and Shia extremists each portraying themselves as the defenders of their respective sectarian groups."

The report said in the period since the establishment of an Iraqi government in mid-May and 11 August, Iraqi civilian and security personnel have been killed at a rate of around 120 a day. This is an increase from around 80 a day between mid-February to mid-May. Two years ago the number stood at 30 a day. Calculated over a year, the most recent rate of killings would equal more than 43,000 Iraqi casualties.

The Pentagon report, Measuring Security and Stability in Iraq, added: " The core conflict in Iraq changed into a struggle between Sunni and Shia extremists seeking to control key areas in Baghdad, create or protect sectarian enclaves, divert economic resources, and impose their own respective political and religious agendas."

While the Pentagon may seek to portray such sectarian violence as the biggest challenge, it admits that the anti-occupation insurgency remains strong.

Indeed other figures, released this summer by the US military, suggest attacks against US and Iraqi forces had doubled since January. The figures showed that in July US forces encountered 2,625 roadside bombs, of which 1,666 exploded and 959 were disarmed. In January, 1,454 bombs exploded or were found. The figures suggested that the insurgency had strengthened despite the killing of senior al-Qa'ida fighter, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in June.

Yesterday, the Iraqi authorities announced the arrest of a man they say is the second-in-command ofal-Qa'ida in Iraq. Iraq's national security adviser, Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, said Hamed Jumaa al-Saedi was detained a few days ago. Mr Rubaie said the man was behind the bombing of a Shia shrine in Samarra in February.
 

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RE: George Galloway Brit

I'm not saying dont impeach bush, or that he isnt a megalomanical moron hell-bent on world dominance, or that Tony Blair isnt an idiot neither, or that making a stand against them two isnt in some way right, I just look on it from the job HE'S ACTUALLY suposed to be doing......which frankly....he isnt, go on about how he's right, his ballsy style has impressed you all from over the pond, no doubt....but think about the job of an MP....would you be happy if you MP in say......St. Catherine, spent most of their time in another continent, getting heaps of publicity, while local policies are completely being ignored?...no, you wouldnt like that.