For Those Who Vacation In Florida

Tim

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Greetings!,

I am writing this to inform potential Canadian vacationers to the state of Florida that there is a desperate fight on in the sunshine state to prevent the court ordered starvation of Terri Shindler Schiavo.

So who is Terri Schiavo and why should you be interested or even care?.

Simply put, Terri Schiavo is a brain damaged woman of about 40 years of age, who became brain damaged while married to husband Michael Schiavo. Allegedly Terri had some digestive disorder which resulted in a potassium deficiency and subsequent heart stoppage while she was trying to become pregnant.

Allegedly she had told her husband during some intimate conversation that she would never want to be kept alive in a persistant vegetative state, requiring feeding, bathing etc. which she could no longer do for herself. There is no living will where she has stated this, only the verbal testimony of her husband. Terri can no longer speak since the incident/abuse?.

In the meantime her husband has shacked up with a new beau and has had two children by this woman. They are engaged to be married when Terri dies or is murdered by the state.

For the complete story please take the time to read the following link. Decide for yourself if this woman is in a persistant vegetative state. http://www.terrisfight.org/

The reason you should care is that if this is allowed to proceed, this woman will have her hydration and feeding stopped and drugs pumped in to surpress the violent effects of slow starvation and dehydration. She will appear peaceful only because she will be essentially paralyzed by the drugs they administer to conceal her pain.

This will be a landmark case in the US for the people who support "the right to die". This is really a coverup for the state's right to kill you if you cannot speak for yourself.

More and more often our courts and the courts of other nations are looking to the decisions made by judges in other nations to base their decisions. There is "right to die" lobby here in Canada too. How would you like it to be you in a so called vegetative state, being targeted by the state for some reason, being allowed to die:read that executed?.

This is just another step down the slippery slope to selective culling of "useless eaters"(seniors or other disabled folks)by the state, all in the name of the "right to die". You may not want to die!. Folks come out of comas regularly. You might not even be in a coma. What if you can't speak for yourself?.

The reason I got to this forum was that I was doing a search for contact information for the Canadian Ambassador to the US and this forum showed up a response to Paul Martin's appointment of Frank McKenna to that position. Well if you didn't know, McKenna is a Bush croney via the Carlyle Group. I can just imagine how sympathetic McKenna would be about this issue :evil:

Folks, if this issue bothers you, vote with your feet and vacation somewhere else besides in Florida. Let your tourism contacts know why you aren't going there. Tell others about this issue.

This isn't an isolated incident. People are routinely "over medicated" every day when doctors and or nurses judge that life has become intolerable for them. This is illegal!, but they still do it.

Don't let there be any laws created to make it easier for them.

Tim.
 

LPlates

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Hi Tim

I'm new to the forum, and I am a Brit.

I can only say I feel sorry for Terri, and feel that she herself wants to continue her life and should have the right to do so. I cannot believe any judge / court should be able to decide for her or her family.

This would not be allowed to happen in the UK, even if a seriously ill or serverely handicapped patient wishes to end their life, the laws here prevents it.

There has been a couple of cases here that have gone through the courts trying to get permission to be allowed to die, both have been refused in the UK. Although there was one case were the patient went abroad and the request was carried out.

This would never happen in the UK if there was any chance of a reasonable life and the patient

L.Plates
 

missile

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Doesn't anyone else think that 15 years in a vegetative state is more than enough? This is not an euthanasia issue to me, but rather a feud between her husband and her parents.
 

missile

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Even if one doesn't believe in pulling the plug ,they should understand the"quality of life' issue.I personally believe that the lady would want to be dead,rather than what she is at the moment.
 

EagleSmack

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This is a tough one. Terri cannot feed herself. She had a severe brain injury and is in a vegetative state. She will forever be this way. The quality of life is nill. She stares into open space and exists. I for one would never want to pull a plug or this case stop her feeding tube.

But to boycott Florida? Florida will get it's tourism money. That does not help or hurt this case.

What a slippery slope this one is.
 

missile

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As long as Florida has hot,sunny weather and nice long beaches,Canadians will winter there. The alternative is our Winters!I can't see any boycott of Florida in the future.
 

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I have never been to Florida and I will never go...EVER!
I am disgusted by this story, and I think that Terri should have the same rights as other people...and that is the right to be fed. I cry for her family and I cry for Terri...not because she has a disability but because she is hungry.
 

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Re: RE: For Those Who Vacation In Florida

missile said:
As long as Florida has hot,sunny weather and nice long beaches,Canadians will winter there. The alternative is our Winters!I can't see any boycott of Florida in the future.

Go to Cuba. Took wife and kids their last year. It is cheap, sunny and everything is included (meals, drinks, accommodations etc) you just have to tip. The water is awsome, as are the beaches. Its a snap to get through customs. Cuba is geared towards Canadians and the Spanish. Nice hotels and you don't need much spending money.It is safe and safer than Florida, Armed guards on beaches. I felt very safe there and I know my family was safe as well. You have to run your card through swiper when you return to your room to get power, but thats no big deal.

Cuba is the place to go. I would rather spend my money their than in Hawaii or Florida. I bought a one litre of Cuban rhum for 3.50 US and if you smoke, Cuban cigs are really cheap. Lots to buy in Cuba (contrary to popular belief). Go to Gitmo and finger and swear at the American torturers if you wish. Go on the beach and moon Florida.

We are going back next Feb for two weeks, for my Aunts wedding, and I can hardly wait.

Basically I will not spend my vacation money in America due to George W Bush and his policies towards the world. It is their loss and in my case Cuba's gain.
 

missile

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My Aunt and Uncle spent nearly 20 winters in Florida[they summer in Springhill,N.S.] It was ideal for seniors like them-except for the exchange on our dollar! Most of the people I know who do go away for a bit of Winter vacation go to Cuba and they love it. But,Terry is a goner,people! Get used to the idea :twisted: