For the NDPers thinking of voting Liberal.

[Breakthrough2006]

December 25, 2005

Scary

Which blood vessels would Susan Murray and John Duffy be popping if they'd discovered a Conservative moron comparing an Asian-Canadian candidate to a dog? (Olivia Chow)

Until just now I didn't think the guy in question was a moron. It was Mike Klander, a senior executive in the Liberal Party of Canada; Paul Martin's senior leadership organizer in Ontario; the muscle the Grits sent in to roll over Sheila Copps in Hamilton in '04; and riding-association president to Tony Ianno, who's running against Olivia Chow, whom Klander smears here.

(Klander immediately killed his entire blog, but the cache survives, as does the offending photo mosaic, screen-captured by an alert blogger. And what fun the Klander blog is! Note the top-ranked Liberal's touching concern over which fashion accessories make candidates "look gay" and his paradoxical observations that Stephen Harper "creeps people out" and Jack Layton "is a weasel" and "is an asshole." Oscar Wilde could hardly have done better. Oh, wait: didn't Oscar Wilde "look gay"?)

All of this happened during a federal election campaign. So Klander's sin wasn't, say, to sit next to Gilles Duceppe at a Holocaust memorial a year ago. It was to crudely smear his party's political opponents after the writ was dropped. I'm told he also got angry at the Star reporter who broke the news of his witticisms, showing a touching Martinite tendency to blame the messenger. Guess I'm off his Christmas list too.

But now the fun is just beginning. Because this is quite a bit bigger than beer and popcorn. So now we get to find out whether anything is a firing offence to Paul Martin, besides working in Jean Chrétien's PMO of course.

Link to cache

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache...logspot.com/+klander+chow-chow&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Pathetic. :evil:

 

[Roy]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

I like watching Liberals self destruct.....and hope for more before the campaign is done. Do you think that this is going to make the news or has it already? sry I been busy eating turkey

 

[Finder]

December 25, 2005

Scary

Which blood vessels would Susan Murray and John Duffy be popping if they'd discovered a Conservative moron comparing an Asian-Canadian candidate to a dog? (Olivia Chow)

Until just now I didn't think the guy in question was a moron. It was Mike Klander, a senior executive in the Liberal Party of Canada; Paul Martin's senior leadership organizer in Ontario; the muscle the Grits sent in to roll over Sheila Copps in Hamilton in '04; and riding-association president to Tony Ianno, who's running against Olivia Chow, whom Klander smears here.

(Klander immediately killed his entire blog, but the cache survives, as does the offending photo mosaic, screen-captured by an alert blogger. And what fun the Klander blog is! Note the top-ranked Liberal's touching concern over which fashion accessories make candidates "look gay" and his paradoxical observations that Stephen Harper "creeps people out" and Jack Layton "is a weasel" and "is an asshole." Oscar Wilde could hardly have done better. Oh, wait: didn't Oscar Wilde "look gay"?)

All of this happened during a federal election campaign. So Klander's sin wasn't, say, to sit next to Gilles Duceppe at a Holocaust memorial a year ago. It was to crudely smear his party's political opponents after the writ was dropped. I'm told he also got angry at the Star reporter who broke the news of his witticisms, showing a touching Martinite tendency to blame the messenger. Guess I'm off his Christmas list too.

But now the fun is just beginning. Because this is quite a bit bigger than beer and popcorn. So now we get to find out whether anything is a firing offence to Paul Martin, besides working in Jean Chrétien's PMO of course.

Link to cache

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache...logspot.com/+klander+chow-chow&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Pathetic. :evil:

wow, I didn't even hear about this yet!

I'm not even considering voting for the liberals even before this.

 

[Breakthrough2006]

Do you think that this is going to make the news or has it already?

If a Conservative said this. Even a little known back bencher, this would be front page news with 2 hour documentaries made and aired on CBC.

Let's see if this even makes the light of day.

 

[Finder]

Do you think that this is going to make the news or has it already?

If a Conservative said this. Even a little known back bencher, this would be front page news with 2 hour documentaries made and aired on CBC.

Let's see if this even makes the light of day.

Well most poplications in Toronto and the CBC for intance I would say are at least friendly to the NDP even if they have a liberal slant. The Only paper I can think of who doesn't like the NDP is the Sun. Plus I could see the Sun printing it since they can't stand the liberals. lol

 

[cyberclark]

Liberals and Conservatives playing word games with Health care; use you influence to tie them down!
"I will continue to support public health care and the Canada Health Act" is the line.

Both Conservatives and Liberals have made deal with Alberta and Quebec to open the Canada Health act if elected and make changes in it so private health care, the dual system can work legally.

Ask them about changes to the Canada Health Act when they give you the quick one line answers.

 

[Finder]

Re: RE: For the NDPers thinking of voting Liberal.

Liberals and Conservatives playing word games with Health care; use you influence to tie them down!
"I will continue to support public health care and the Canada Health Act" is the line.

Both Conservatives and Liberals have made deal with Alberta and Quebec to open the Canada Health act if elected and make changes in it so private health care, the dual system can work legally.

Ask them about changes to the Canada Health Act when they give you the quick one line answers.

The difference is that the Bloq is a more social democratic party and the Alberta Con's are Neo cons. Both wish to do different things to health care, but both you could argue are out of nationalist, regional reasons then just plan politics. Both parties are playing with our health care for there personal political agenda's which do not reflect the rest of Canada.

 

[Reverend Blair]

If a Conservative said this. Even a little known back bencher, this would be front page news with 2 hour documentaries made and aired on CBC.

Conservatives have been saying it since at least the last election, Breakthrough. They haven't done it on any official blogs that I've seen, but it's been rampant on Conservative websites and it's been blathered by Conservatives on boards such as this one.

Now I'm not defending the idiot Liberal who put it on his blog, but his racist bullshit does not excuse the racist bullshit of your fellow Conservatives. If you had the wherewithal to take an objective look at the press in Canada, you'd have whining about the press being unfair to your party long ago. You get away with far more than you should.

 

[Roy]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

The socialists hopefully with stick with their party this time, it seems Layton is intent on making sure of that. It is typical of the radical left of attacking conservatives even they have nothing to do with the comments, but w/e thats why the NDP are not ever going to win an election.

Much of the reason for the current shift in Canadian politics to the far left is because of the anger towards the Bush administration. Once there is a more moderate governmet in Washington I think we will see a decline in the hardcore socialist NDP.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

The reason I mentioned the anti-socialists, Roy, is because the first time I saw the Chow thing was when a vicious little twat named Karra started yarking about it before the last election. She's no Liberal. I've since seen it parroted by a whack of half-bright Conservatives on places like Free Dominion who live on hate and despise anybody who actually takes the time to think about things.

This is the first time I've seen a Liberal so openly reveal their racism and hatred on-line. It doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me is that the Conservatives have hopped on this as a way to attack the Liberals when they've so often been guilty of the same themselves.

 

[Roy]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

yea, I am not saying that any party is perfect, but I am sure you knew that the Conservative Party is actually the most ethnically diverse ever. Not to mention that it is the youngerst party ever as well. The NDP would be the party with the most women if I am not mistaken.

Yea there idiots in every party though. I am sure Rev you seen Reg Alcock make racist comments about Chinese people?

Also the CPC are not anti-socialist, actually economically they are not that different that the LIB's, but with more of a tax cut mentality. The only reason I have recently supported them is because in addition to tax cuts they have been the ones bringing up the issue of senate reform, a military arctic presence, an indipendent prosecutor, and also the plain reason that I just want to see change.

Contrary I also actually support the NDP on some issues such as the ethics package. I belive the NDP have some great ideas but I don't think that a NDP government running Canada would be good because it would polarize our country to much, and most don't trust pure socialists with the economy.

 

[Reverend Blair]

yea, I am not saying that any party is perfect, but I am sure you knew that the Conservative Party is actually the most ethnically diverse ever. Not to mention that it is the youngerst party ever as well. The NDP would be the party with the most women if I am not mistaken.

They also have the largest record of racist statements by members since their inception as the Reform Party. One of their main backroom boys, Tom Flanagan wrote a book that was pretty much openly racist against natives and Metis people. Harper can put Rahim Jaffer up on stage all he wants, the fact remains that there is a long record of racism, sexism, and religious bigotry within the Reform/Alliance/Conservatives.

Also the CPC are not anti-socialist, actually economically they are not that different that the LIB's, but with more of a tax cut mentality. The only reason I have recently supported them is because in addition to tax cuts they have been the ones bringing up the issue of senate reform, a military arctic presence, an indipendent prosecutor, and also the plain reason that I just want to see change.

The Conservatives trot out the old, "Oh, those people are socialists," fear tactics every chance they get, Roy. Which leads to this:

Contrary I also actually support the NDP on some issues such as the ethics package. I belive the NDP have some great ideas but I don't think that a NDP government running Canada would be good because it would polarize our country to much, and most don't trust pure socialists with the economy.

You'd better check out who has the most expensive platform, because it is the Conservatives. It was last time too, which is why they didn't many economic endorsements from outside their party. The NDP got more of hose than the Conservatives did the last time around.

 

[Calberty]

How about anybody thinking of voting NDP?

BOB RAE 8O 8O 8O

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

Back for more troll boy? How about Mike Harris? Grant Devine? Brian Mulroney? How about Ralph Klein signing the worst oil deal on the planet? How about Jim Harris of the Green Party kicking elected members off the board when they dared to defend the party's constitution? How about that drunken lout running BC into the ground?

 

[Calberty]

Na, just those two words that make the skin crawl;

BOB RAE 8O 8O 8O

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

I see. You don't have a cogent argument, possibly because of your low IQ and all too apparent lack of self-esteem. Tell us, Calberty, when your mother was pregnant with you, did your family live near a sour gas well?

 

[Calberty]

BOB RAE would be proud how Layton and NDP propped up the Liberals in April and forced them to spend billions :? and billions :? and billions :? and billions...and billions and billions and more billions 8O 8O ... and billions :roll: :roll:.

 

[Calberty]

Oops, forgot the NDP wants to spend even more billions ...and more billions and more billions.... 8O 8O 8O 8O ..and more....

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: For the NDPers thinki

Better check the numbers, Calberty. It's your Alberta-led rednecks that have the highest cost in campaign promises to date.

 

[Vanni Fucci]

Funny thing this:

Much of what Bob Rae is villified for is mirrored in the government of PC Premier Gary Filmon of Manitoba...

Could it possibly be that many governments were not up to the task of recovering from a looming North American recession?

To say that this is an example of the failure of social democracy is an outright lie, fomented by the ignorant, and supported by the excessively stupid.

Upon further inspection of the actions of the Rae NDP government some may find it interesting to note that many of the economic policies implemented by the government were decidedly right-wing in nature.

Guess what though, they didn't work, but the governments of those provinces are still recovering from the Keynesian escapades even after the recession.

Bad government is bad government no matter whose suit they're wearing.

You've given one example of bad government by an NDP Premier and expect people to believe that they are unfit to govern. Well I can give example of at least half a dozen bad conservative or liberal federal and provincial governments without even Googling.

People here are not as inane as you would like to presume...