Flames Fans and Others...

[talloola]

The chat seems to be that Phaneuf will pull it together under the coaching of
Brent Sutter, and he will stop him from roaming around so much, and play a
much more structured game.
Phaneuf is still very young seems kind of nonconstructive to trade him now that
he is approaching his prime, and should be the best he can be for a few years.
Top defencemen are hard to acquire, so if a team builds their own to a point
where they are very desireable to other teams, what is the point of letting them
go.

 

[talloola]

Will be interesting to see how the Oilers do this year, with new G.M., coaches, and some new players. Glad Sheldon is still here. He should be captain...

They still seem too small up front.
I like Souray, good pick up for Edmonton, they really need him, as long as he can
stay healthy.

 

[Cannuck]

The chat seems to be that Phaneuf will pull it together under the coaching of
Brent Sutter, and he will stop him from roaming around so much, and play a
much more structured game.

His play on the ice is irrelevant. He is a cancer in the dressing room. As long as Iggy and Phaneuf hate each other the chemistry will be poor. I believe the the Flames would be a better team if they simply released Phaneuf. Trading him is the answer. The Sutter's like him (particularly Brent) so I don't see him going anywhere. Does this mean the status quo continues or perhaps Iggy asks for a trade? Time will tell.

 

[gerryh]

His play on the ice is irrelevant. He is a cancer in the dressing room. As long as Iggy and Phaneuf hate each other the chemistry will be poor. I believe the the Flames would be a better team if they simply released Phaneuf. Trading him is the answer. The Sutter's like him (particularly Brent) so I don't see him going anywhere. Does this mean the status quo continues or perhaps Iggy asks for a trade? Time will tell.

I asked my son about this, and he's as much of an NHL fanatic as talloola if not more, and he hasn't heard anything about this.....where dd you get it from?

 

[Cannuck]

I asked my son about this, and he's as much of an NHL fanatic as talloola if not more, and he hasn't heard anything about this.....where dd you get it from?

I sit beside one of the player's mothers on the odd occasion I attend a game (a company I deal with has seasons tickets). My family is from Edmonton and knows the family of one of the Flames players. I got confirmation. The Flames have done a masterful job of keeping it hush hush and kudos to Iggy and Phaneuf for keeping it in the dressing room at least.

 

[talloola]

I asked my son about this, and he's as much of an NHL fanatic as talloola if not more, and he hasn't heard anything about this.....where dd you get it from?

I don't agree with that 'cancer in the dressing room thing' at all, for one thing
no one knows what happens in dressing rooms, as it 'stays there'.
Players don't talk to anyone outside the dressing room about what happens in
there.
Same as Casey Printers for the lions, he had the same reputation, but when they
interviewed Geroy Simon re: that problem, he said printers was always a good
teamate, and was 'never' a problem, "IT WAS ALL THE MEDIA", he said.

 

[Cannuck]

Players don't talk to anyone outside the dressing room about what happens in there.

Wrong

Iginla, assistant coach argue during a video session

 

[talloola]

Wrong

Iginla, assistant coach argue during a video session

This is not dressing room stuff, coaches only go into dressing rooms for
pre game or post game chat, not video stuff, that is part of team/coach
instruction time.
I am talking about the 'team' and the 'dressing room'.
And coaches even say on interviews that they do not interfere with the
'room' very much, that is the teams space.

 

[talloola]

I sit beside one of the player's mothers on the odd occasion I attend a game (a company I deal with has seasons tickets). My family is from Edmonton and knows the family of one of the Flames players. I got confirmation. The Flames have done a masterful job of keeping it hush hush and kudos to Iggy and Phaneuf for keeping it in the dressing room at least.

players parents shouldn't be shooting off their big mouths to other people about
things that aren't even their business to begin with.
players shouldn't be talking to people outside the 'room' about anything that goes
on 'in the room', that is gossipy and tacky.
It is extremely difficult to know anything that goes on in the canucks 'room',
as the media are always sticking their nose into everything they can, but
to their frustration, they cannot find out anything about 'inside the room', and
they say how private that area is.

 

[Cannuck]

players parents shouldn't be shooting off their big mouths to other people about
things that aren't even their business to begin with.
players shouldn't be talking to people outside the 'room' about anything that goes
on 'in the room', that is gossipy and tacky.

It doesn't matter what people should or shouldn't do. What's done is done. Players have discussed dressing room stuff outside the dressing room. Because you feel it shouldn't happen, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

 

[talloola]

It doesn't matter what people should or shouldn't do. What's done is done. Players have discussed dressing room stuff outside the dressing room. Because you feel it shouldn't happen, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

It really has nothing to do with 'how' I feel, it has to do with tradition, and
the sanctity of the dressing room,that has always been important, and when
players take their 'stuff' out into the public or family and 'whine' and 'gossip'
about other players on the team, that is a no no.

I still don't believe the story about phaneuf anyway, just think it's made up
gossip, and I'm not a phaneuf admirer.

 

[MrJ]

All I know is he's here, and doing something for us again this year. That's all I care about, lol! "Phaneuf that is"...

Iggy is a little invisible this year, but I guess he always has a slow start...

I still think we have what it takes to go all the way this year! I'm sure we all think that of our favorite teams though.

Like someone said, "only time will tell".

 

[talloola]

All I know is he's here, and doing something for us again this year. That's all I care about, lol! "Phaneuf that is"...

Iggy is a little invisible this year, but I guess he always has a slow start...

I still think we have what it takes to go all the way this year! I'm sure we all think that of our favorite teams though.

Like someone said, "only time will tell".

Yeah, for the canucks now, there is 79 games left, I'm sure we'll win a couple by
then.;-)

 

[wulfie68]

I haven't seen or heard anything, in my time in Calgary to suggest any bad blood between Phaneuf and Iginla. And at 32, lets be honest, I doubt Iginla has all that many years left to pursue it, if said rift exists. I also can't see the logic in trading Phaneuf unless they get something very highly valued in return: as Talloola said, quality defencemen are long term projects and very valuable commodities.

Back to the original discussion, I honestly don't think any of the Canadian teams improved enough to do much more than we saw last post season. Adding an injured Phil Kessel to the Burnt Leafs won't make Toronto a contender any time soon, nor will the moves in Ottawa or Montreal. Vancouver needs more offensive savvy on blue line and they and the Flames both need more talent up front. Edmonton, well, sorry Oiler fans but I think you're in it for draft picks again (like my beloved Islanders). I'm interested to see what happens with Heatley in San Jose. I wonder how an extra will year will help all the young talent in Chicago, Pittsburgh and Washington. I wonder if the Wings still have enough depth in Detroit to make it to the final four.

 

[Iceman778]

but he is not gona come to ur team .he is with me

 

[Iceman778]

i also like him to see in the team

 

[Iceman778]

i completely agree with you i also like the same

 

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