FiveThirtyEight: Voters Really Did Switch To Trump At The Last Minute

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Voters Really Did Switch To Trump At The Last Minute

Donald Trump’s somewhat surprising win has forced many political analysts to wonder: Were we wrong all along in thinking Hillary Clinton had the upper hand, or was late-breaking movement to Trump part of the reason why polling averages missed his upset Electoral College victory? There’s certainly evidence that the polls underestimated Trump’s support in crucial Midwest states. But the latest wave of the Institute for the Study of Citizens and Politics panel survey that my University of Pennsylvania colleague Diana Mutz and I have been overseeing is now complete, and it provides new evidence that voters did shift to Trump in the final weeks of the campaign, too.

Panel surveys differ from other polls in that they re-interview the same people repeatedly, allowing us to see how specific Americans’ attitudes shift over time. They thus help us sidestep the problem that some groups of people might be more likely to take polls when their candidate is thought to be doing well or receiving favorable press coverage. Our October 2016 wave was conducted with nationally sampled adults over age 26 between Oct. 14 and Oct. 24, meaning that it ended soon after the third Clinton-Trump debate. At the time, Clinton was riding high in the polls — and 43 percent of our panelists in that wave expressed support for Clinton, as opposed to 36 percent for Trump. By way of benchmarking, this same group of panelists had gone for President Obama over Mitt Romney 46 percent to 39 percent in October 2012.

At first glance, it might seem as if Clinton in October 2016 was in roughly the same position as Obama was in October 2012, at least with respect to the distribution of votes nationally: Both enjoyed margins of 7 percentage points among exactly the same group of people. But there were critical differences, even beyond the fact that the geographic distribution of support is crucial in making one candidate president. First, the number of undecided respondents in 2016 was 21 percent, significantly outpacing the 15 percent we saw in 2012. Second, our 2016 survey ended on Oct. 24, leaving two full weeks before the Nov. 8 election for people’s minds to change. There was still a lot of time on the clock.

And while most people’s support remained the same, the changes we did observe were consequential. Consider the table below, showing panelists’ support in the October 2016 poll versus their support in the post-election poll, which took place from Nov. 28 to Dec. 7. Eighty-nine percent of the 1,075 American adults reported the same preference in both waves, whether it was for Clinton (38.0 percent), Trump (35.2 percent) or neither (15.8 percent). But among those who did move, Trump had the advantage. While no one moved from Trump to Clinton, 0.9 percent of our respondents moved from Clinton to Trump. Although that 0.9 percent isn’t a lot, those changes are especially influential, since they simultaneously reduce Clinton’s tally and add to Trump’s. If there were a comparable swing in the national electorate, 1.2 million votes would move to Trump.

Trump also outpaced Clinton among people who were previously undecided or third-party backers, with 3.1 percent of respondents moving from those categories to Trump while just 2.3 percent did the same for Clinton. Clinton also saw 3.1 percent of her October supporters defecting to third-party candidates or becoming undecided. Trump lost just 1.7 percent.

In all, Trump picked up 4.0 percentage points among people who hadn’t been with him in mid-October, and shed just 1.7 percentage points for a net gain of 2.3 points. Clinton picked up a smaller fraction — 2.3 points — and shed 4.0 points for a net loss of 1.7 points. That’s certainly consistent with Trump gaining steam in the race’s final weeks. Seeing as the 2016 election was held on the latest possible day given the mandate to hold it on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, we might just add the 2016 leap year to the ever-growing list of reasons why Trump prevailed.

To put these shifts in context, let’s look back at the same panelists’ replies before and after the 2012 election. Then, our pre-election wave ran from Oct. 19 to 29, while our post-election wave began on Nov. 14 and ran through Jan. 29.

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That there was a sudden shift just before the election.



Or they were completely wrong to begin with. I think there is always some shifting one way or the other. But I fail to believe that the polls were actually right (the ones in PA, MI, OH, FL) not necessarily the national ones which seem to be done by asking people in NYC and CA what they thought.
 

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The only fail here is that you couldn't reject the premise at all.
Well that's easy enough. Hillary's poll numbers were constantly juiced up. Remember, poll numbers also include those who gave monetary contributions to her campaign. And in Hillary's case, with the double and triple dipping of people's accounts and credit cards, one person making a small, one time financial donation suddenly became 2-3 people who supported Hillary.
All this article proves is that the only poll that counts is the one on voting day. Look at Brexit, polls practically had the Leave side walking away with the referendum. Look at an earlier Alberta election where polls had the Wild Rose Party in a rather comfortable lead just days before the vote. They didn't even finish second in the election IIRC.
 
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Nope, her poll numbers were based on the popular vote and they turned out to be perfectly accurate.
 

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Nope, her poll numbers were based on the popular vote and they turned out to be perfectly accurate.



LOL ... says the man (I use the term loosely) who lectured us before the election that the national popular vote polls were not important and to pay attention to the ones which had Hillary taking FL, PA, OH and NC. Backtrack much?
 

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Even many of those were so close that Trump won within the margin of error.
 

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Even many of those were so close that Trump won within the margin of error.
So Clinton won California by a margin of about 4 million . She won the national results by 2.1 million .
Take California away and Trump won the national result by close to two million .
You can poll that any way you like .