Fifth Estate

passpatoo

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I've never watched Fox news or Bill, but did see the fifth estate piece. Yeah I was really appalled too.

Yeah sure Bill is paid to be outrageous, no doubt, but unlike Jerry Springer, I think alot more people take Fox News to be factual news rather just entertainment.

I watch CTV newsnet a bit, and I get rather disgusted at some of the stuff thier starting to feature. I see them starting to follow some of the american news crap as well. (I just don't care about Micheal Jackson's day in court) Hail Peter Mansbridge!
 

passpatoo

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Aug 29, 2004
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I've never watched Fox news or Bill, but did see the fifth estate piece. Yeah I was really appalled too.

Yeah sure Bill is paid to be outrageous, no doubt, but unlike Jerry Springer, I think alot more people take Fox News to be factual news rather just entertainment.

I watch CTV newsnet a bit, and I get rather disgusted at some of the stuff thier starting to feature. I see them starting to follow some of the american news crap as well. (I just don't care about Micheal Jackson's day in court) Hail Peter Mansbridge!
 

peapod

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Here is something kind of interesting, someone told me the other night that Jerry Springer has started a liberal radio talk in show to counteract some of the bush positions.
 

peapod

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Here is something kind of interesting, someone told me the other night that Jerry Springer has started a liberal radio talk in show to counteract some of the bush positions.
 

peapod

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Here is something kind of interesting, someone told me the other night that Jerry Springer has started a liberal radio talk in show to counteract some of the bush positions.
 

ElPolaco

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We have FOX news on cable, but don't watch it. However, where ever there's a waiting room, FOX news is on. It's the only news folks take to be the "truth". CNN is refered to as "communist news network". PBS, with less govt funding and more corporate funding, is growing increasingly more conservative. So is NPR. Using the "free market" to control free speech. At least there still is the alternative press, but the "man in the street" in totally unfamiliar with it, and, if he was, he would not think it had any credibility.
 

ElPolaco

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We have FOX news on cable, but don't watch it. However, where ever there's a waiting room, FOX news is on. It's the only news folks take to be the "truth". CNN is refered to as "communist news network". PBS, with less govt funding and more corporate funding, is growing increasingly more conservative. So is NPR. Using the "free market" to control free speech. At least there still is the alternative press, but the "man in the street" in totally unfamiliar with it, and, if he was, he would not think it had any credibility.
 

ElPolaco

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Fruita, CO, Aztlan
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We have FOX news on cable, but don't watch it. However, where ever there's a waiting room, FOX news is on. It's the only news folks take to be the "truth". CNN is refered to as "communist news network". PBS, with less govt funding and more corporate funding, is growing increasingly more conservative. So is NPR. Using the "free market" to control free speech. At least there still is the alternative press, but the "man in the street" in totally unfamiliar with it, and, if he was, he would not think it had any credibility.
 

Scape

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Nov 12, 2004
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The denial runs deep Ann is just a part of the problem. If anything she is civil compared to the deep rooted hate that is coursing through American politics today. In sticks and stones it is stated that the America has never been this divided since the civil war. The insanity is palpable, moderates are either a minority or have just given up.
 

Scape

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Nov 12, 2004
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The denial runs deep Ann is just a part of the problem. If anything she is civil compared to the deep rooted hate that is coursing through American politics today. In sticks and stones it is stated that the America has never been this divided since the civil war. The insanity is palpable, moderates are either a minority or have just given up.
 

Scape

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Nov 12, 2004
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The denial runs deep Ann is just a part of the problem. If anything she is civil compared to the deep rooted hate that is coursing through American politics today. In sticks and stones it is stated that the America has never been this divided since the civil war. The insanity is palpable, moderates are either a minority or have just given up.
 

Gonzo

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Eventualy, it will blow up on itself. People will get sick of it and turn against it. You cant shove propoganda down peoples throughts forever without them catching on. At least I hope. One day Ann and Bill will be kicked off the air for telling too many lies or they will meet with an unfortunate accident. I can see that happening.
 

Gonzo

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Eventualy, it will blow up on itself. People will get sick of it and turn against it. You cant shove propoganda down peoples throughts forever without them catching on. At least I hope. One day Ann and Bill will be kicked off the air for telling too many lies or they will meet with an unfortunate accident. I can see that happening.
 

Gonzo

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Dec 5, 2004
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Eventualy, it will blow up on itself. People will get sick of it and turn against it. You cant shove propoganda down peoples throughts forever without them catching on. At least I hope. One day Ann and Bill will be kicked off the air for telling too many lies or they will meet with an unfortunate accident. I can see that happening.
 

Scape

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Nov 12, 2004
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The people only turned against McCarthyism with massive unrelenting evidence and rising casualties that did not differentiate on political motivations. It took a very long time for that to happen before it was shown to be wrong and even then there were 'dead enders' who just went deep and waited until another opportunity. The 'neo-con's are just such dead-enders who under Clinton were marginalized but with Bush got the drivers seat. Hersh: 'We've Been Taken Over by a Cult'


Iran's patience running thin


This time because M.A.D is not in play the threat of a nuclear exchange is more real now then the Cuban Missile crisis. We could go hot real fast here. Expert View: Be very afraid if Bush takes the war on terror to Iran

It is my assessment we do not have the luxury of time, and this will not simply 'go away'. Action must be taken.
 

Scape

Electoral Member
Nov 12, 2004
169
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The people only turned against McCarthyism with massive unrelenting evidence and rising casualties that did not differentiate on political motivations. It took a very long time for that to happen before it was shown to be wrong and even then there were 'dead enders' who just went deep and waited until another opportunity. The 'neo-con's are just such dead-enders who under Clinton were marginalized but with Bush got the drivers seat. Hersh: 'We've Been Taken Over by a Cult'


Iran's patience running thin


This time because M.A.D is not in play the threat of a nuclear exchange is more real now then the Cuban Missile crisis. We could go hot real fast here. Expert View: Be very afraid if Bush takes the war on terror to Iran

It is my assessment we do not have the luxury of time, and this will not simply 'go away'. Action must be taken.
 

Scape

Electoral Member
Nov 12, 2004
169
0
16
The people only turned against McCarthyism with massive unrelenting evidence and rising casualties that did not differentiate on political motivations. It took a very long time for that to happen before it was shown to be wrong and even then there were 'dead enders' who just went deep and waited until another opportunity. The 'neo-con's are just such dead-enders who under Clinton were marginalized but with Bush got the drivers seat. Hersh: 'We've Been Taken Over by a Cult'


Iran's patience running thin


This time because M.A.D is not in play the threat of a nuclear exchange is more real now then the Cuban Missile crisis. We could go hot real fast here. Expert View: Be very afraid if Bush takes the war on terror to Iran

It is my assessment we do not have the luxury of time, and this will not simply 'go away'. Action must be taken.