Enough with the poor illegal immigrants
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RE: Enough with the poor
The word "Canada" or "Canadian" seems to be used more in Canada than "American" is in the US.
The word "Canada" or "Canadian" seems to be used more in Canada than "American" is in the US.
I have no problem with anyone who wants to start a new life here. It is how my ancestors arrived here and I'm how almost everyone on this post ancestor came.
I understand that we should not reward illegal activity, but these bums who sit on the Mexican border need to get a life.
I truly feel for many of these hardworking poor folk who are trying desperately to find a way to improve the lives of theirselves and their families.
I support Bushes guest worker program. Sad how these poor folk have been villified by the likes of Bill OReilly and Ann Coulter.
I really wish there was a better way.
I understand that we should not reward illegal activity, but these bums who sit on the Mexican border need to get a life.
I truly feel for many of these hardworking poor folk who are trying desperately to find a way to improve the lives of theirselves and their families.
I support Bushes guest worker program. Sad how these poor folk have been villified by the likes of Bill OReilly and Ann Coulter.
I really wish there was a better way.
The Supreme Court ordered Rwandan war criminal Leon Muesera deported from Canada. 10 years later he is still here.
Africans sail to the Canary Islands. A thousand have landed of late. Many perish at sea. By refusing to say where they are from they cannot be returned to just any country. They end up freed in Spain a year or two later.
China refuses to take back 12,000 illegal immigrants. Whats the result? Western citizenship.
There are 46,000 missing illegals in Canada. Any surprise when the procedure is: Come back next month, here is a welfare cheque and there is the office.
Africans sail to the Canary Islands. A thousand have landed of late. Many perish at sea. By refusing to say where they are from they cannot be returned to just any country. They end up freed in Spain a year or two later.
China refuses to take back 12,000 illegal immigrants. Whats the result? Western citizenship.
There are 46,000 missing illegals in Canada. Any surprise when the procedure is: Come back next month, here is a welfare cheque and there is the office.
darkbeaver said:
If you look closer you would find that your toothpaste, garbage bags and shaving cream etc..... are all made in the USA, imported to Toronto and distributed to your little corner of Canada.
I think not said:
Other than Trolling? Not likely.
How about we start bringing in foreign workers to work jobs when we run out of unemployed Canadians, mmmkay? Are you Ontarians running out of Newfie Migrant Labourers or what? :wink:
Jay said:
I agree there. Or at least they can stop harping at high-school kids, telling them "if you don't get at least a BA, you'll never geta job!!!" Take a look at my generation, PHD's serving Starbucks coffees while their tradesmen friends move into $300,000 houses. Thanks, teachers!! :roll:
And in university, you're taught to believe in enforced multiculturalism and PC thought at any cost! Plus, youre infused with a little bit of intellectual elitism to believe that trade-work and labour are beneath you, so you're glad to have "poor immigrants" to come do that work for you, even if they make more. You've got important things to do, like wear Che Guevara t-shirts and protest the fact that you have to pay back student loans!!
Circle of life and all that!
Circle of life and all that!
Re: RE: Enough with the poor illegal immigrants
I added something you left out.
Why do you think the Universities are funded the way they are? Do you think they could push that agenda on collages?
They aren't fooling me....
Why do you think the Universities are funded the way they are? Do you think they could push that agenda on collages?
They aren't fooling me....
Doryman said:
I added something you left out.
Why do you think the Universities are funded the way they are? Do you think they could push that agenda on collages?
They aren't fooling me....
Why do you think the Universities are funded the way they are? Do you think they could push that agenda on collages?
They aren't fooling me....
I have no sympathy for the recently deported Portugese family. If they wanted a better life they should have moved to Germany or the UK. If their heart was set on Canada why didn't they apply legally? Our immigration system would easily have allowed this family to settle in Toronto. I honestly just don't know what they were thinking, they may have been hard working but they certainly weren't honest or smart.
Illegals
In 1975 I became a Canadian Citizen. I was 24 years old. I was brought to Canada in 1954 by illegal immigrants, and in1963 I was made a crown ward of the courts and spent 5 years in training schools. I was taken (kidnapped) from my family as a child. I have spent my entire life searching for my birth family to no avail, my parents would by now have passed away. I believe that I have 3 sisters still living somewhere in Europe, the youngest my twin sister. I may never find them. I brought in all the papers I could get my hands on at that time to citizanship court and explained the dillema I was in. They took the information I provided and said that if they find anything wrong they would notify me in the future and get back to me. The adults that brought me to Canada have since passed away. Their children are still illegally here. Their paper work are all forgeries. I was always honest with the authorities as to how I came to be in this country. I never lied to anyone as to what had happened to me. Yes I would have the Canadian Government deport all illegals. How many of us children have to lose thier families for the crimes these people committed. Portugal has been for many years now a country where a person could buy a new identity for a fee and no questions asked. I don't feel sorry for illegals, where ever they come from. It's been nice chatting with someone out there.
In 1975 I became a Canadian Citizen. I was 24 years old. I was brought to Canada in 1954 by illegal immigrants, and in1963 I was made a crown ward of the courts and spent 5 years in training schools. I was taken (kidnapped) from my family as a child. I have spent my entire life searching for my birth family to no avail, my parents would by now have passed away. I believe that I have 3 sisters still living somewhere in Europe, the youngest my twin sister. I may never find them. I brought in all the papers I could get my hands on at that time to citizanship court and explained the dillema I was in. They took the information I provided and said that if they find anything wrong they would notify me in the future and get back to me. The adults that brought me to Canada have since passed away. Their children are still illegally here. Their paper work are all forgeries. I was always honest with the authorities as to how I came to be in this country. I never lied to anyone as to what had happened to me. Yes I would have the Canadian Government deport all illegals. How many of us children have to lose thier families for the crimes these people committed. Portugal has been for many years now a country where a person could buy a new identity for a fee and no questions asked. I don't feel sorry for illegals, where ever they come from. It's been nice chatting with someone out there.
Living in south Florida as a legal immigrant here (permanent resident), the topic of illegal immigration makes my blood boil. I don't think the Canadian problem even makes a blip on the radar compared to here.
In a perfect world I dont believe in borders but we dont live in a perfect world. My Bro in Law and I was discussing this when i was visiting. We both agreed that if a person is to immigrate to another contry a few things need to happen......
1) within a certain amount of time the learn the language
2) within a certain amount of time they have a job that cannot reasonably be filled in a reasonable amount of time by an american
3) Only a percentage of business' ,stocks, property be bought by forieners
4) Only a certain percentage of their paychecks can be sent out of the country (that was Bro's idea, Im not sure its inforceable)
Anyway there was more but I cant think of it all.
1) within a certain amount of time the learn the language
2) within a certain amount of time they have a job that cannot reasonably be filled in a reasonable amount of time by an american
3) Only a percentage of business' ,stocks, property be bought by forieners
4) Only a certain percentage of their paychecks can be sent out of the country (that was Bro's idea, Im not sure its inforceable)
Anyway there was more but I cant think of it all.
Good post Self, all I ask of new immigrants to Canada is please become part of our country but leave your tribal and Sharia law at the door please. It's not welcome, it harms and demeans females and children why would you want to mirror the awful life you left.
Reply to Thread: Enough with the poor illegal immigrants
(just kidding kinda). If you allow this to happen to Canada you will regret it in the future. If the North American Union takes place, believe me, Canada will be doomed as the US is with illegals.
The following is a message worth reading By Gemma Meyer:
http://rhodesian.server101.com/coming_darkness1.htm
The Coming Darkness
A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa
20th March 2004
People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).
Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.
America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your western character.
Writing letters to the press, manning stands at country fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing to your Congressman - that is what you know, and that is what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability.
But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusation of racism, demands for proportionality cased on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.
That is exactly what happened to South Africa. I know because I was there and saw it happen.
Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace."
Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for our society.
The third world is different - different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once thriving stable Rhodesia - is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.
Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-western peoples inside the realm.
It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them more votes, a few more days of peace.
White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.
We lost our country though skilful propaganda, pressure from abroad (nor least from the USA), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism" and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man" and his "love thy neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's history.
The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission school protégés. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with "brotherhood of man."
Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves at Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read this far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet and they want to compromise and be nice.
A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.
In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge "white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.
What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?
Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.
In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair: the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system.
What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches? Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.
Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.
In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the westerners pressuring him to surrender.
When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population, siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hands and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.
Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.
What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror as in Zimbabwe today or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.
Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.
To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.
Millions around the world wait your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Jeffferson and Washington and your Constitution. What they want are your possessions, your power, your status.
And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists" the skillful lawyers and the left wind politicians will fight for then and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.
They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.
They know what to do.
Do you??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
By Gemma Meyer
That is a cruel suggestion:cwm10: The US already has 4 million a year coming across our borders, and over half of them through southern Arizona ...what a heartless comment indeed !
(just kidding kinda). If you allow this to happen to Canada you will regret it in the future. If the North American Union takes place, believe me, Canada will be doomed as the US is with illegals.The following is a message worth reading By Gemma Meyer:
http://rhodesian.server101.com/coming_darkness1.htm
The Coming Darkness
A Warning for Americans: A message from South Africa
20th March 2004
People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).
Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.
America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your western character.
Writing letters to the press, manning stands at country fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing to your Congressman - that is what you know, and that is what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability.
But woe to you if - or more likely, when - the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game - violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusation of racism, demands for proportionality cased on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves - Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.
That is exactly what happened to South Africa. I know because I was there and saw it happen.
Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace."
Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was the peace of the grave for our society.
The third world is different - different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe - once thriving stable Rhodesia - is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.
Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem looming on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-western peoples inside the realm.
It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them more votes, a few more days of peace.
White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.
We lost our country though skilful propaganda, pressure from abroad (nor least from the USA), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism" and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man" and his "love thy neighbor" philosophy - none of which are part of the Third World's history.
The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission school protégés. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with "brotherhood of man."
Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves at Oxford, Cambridge and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.
From what I have seen and read this far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet and they want to compromise and be nice.
A television program that aired in South Africa showed a town meeting somewhere in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.
In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings - as in Zimbabwe. What will happen when the new majority says the judges are racists, and that they refuse to acknowledge "white man's justice"? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.
What will you do when the future non-white majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?
Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.
In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing - invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair: the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system.
What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches? Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.
Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses - like the need to overcome generations of white racism - will be found to exonerate the guilty.
In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the westerners pressuring him to surrender.
When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population, siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friends, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hands and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.
Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.
What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror as in Zimbabwe today or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.
Once you lose social, cultural and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.
Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weaknesses and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.
To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.
Millions around the world wait your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Jeffferson and Washington and your Constitution. What they want are your possessions, your power, your status.
And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists" the skillful lawyers and the left wind politicians will fight for then and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.
They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.
They know what to do.
Do you??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
By Gemma Meyer
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The problem I have with our current immigration system is its retarded in any sense other than short term financial.
We only (for the most part) have immigrants who are well educated and skilled. Lets not kid ourselves, with good reason these people immigrate here simply for the financial reason of a better standard of living. Who am I to judge? offer a high enough wage and im stateside.
Never the less (and parts of my family are immediate immigrants) they don't have any particular loyalty to Canada...and much like me If I went stateside Im only there for one reason..a good paycheck. And when Im done with that I head back to canada with my wealth and retire, dumping my pension into the Canadian economy. Likewise my inlaws plan to return to China when they are done here.
And that means (like me If I went to the states) they only have one reason to be here from my point of view, take a job I could have done. Oh sure, its good for business, skilled trades at unskilled labour prices due to market flooding. But at the end of the day that means locals get screwed, paying for schooling that doesn't give them the higher wages their parents got (but far more debt).
For long term stability the methods used when my Grandparents came to Canada make more sense, when you want immigrants..take refugee's from bombed out countries. Not the kind who can afford to fly out, the kind you round up on a boat and dump on our shores. Since we need immigrants to sustain our economy with our shrinking population..shouldn't we fill the unskilled jobs first..and encourage our population into higher education..seeing as how them and their parents have been paying taxes all these years?
Immigration is vital, and i'd be a hypocrite to be against it seeing as how thats how my family got here. But we are only doing three things by bringing over so many skilled labourers 1.) Depleting their own countries of a workforce they worked damn hard to educate 2.) Screwing our own workforce who worked long and hard to be able to educate them and their children 3.) Sending Canada into long-term Ruin.
Don't the poor of the world deserve more of a chance to better their lives in Canada then those who could make thier own country better in the first place?
We only (for the most part) have immigrants who are well educated and skilled. Lets not kid ourselves, with good reason these people immigrate here simply for the financial reason of a better standard of living. Who am I to judge? offer a high enough wage and im stateside.
Never the less (and parts of my family are immediate immigrants) they don't have any particular loyalty to Canada...and much like me If I went stateside Im only there for one reason..a good paycheck. And when Im done with that I head back to canada with my wealth and retire, dumping my pension into the Canadian economy. Likewise my inlaws plan to return to China when they are done here.
And that means (like me If I went to the states) they only have one reason to be here from my point of view, take a job I could have done. Oh sure, its good for business, skilled trades at unskilled labour prices due to market flooding. But at the end of the day that means locals get screwed, paying for schooling that doesn't give them the higher wages their parents got (but far more debt).
For long term stability the methods used when my Grandparents came to Canada make more sense, when you want immigrants..take refugee's from bombed out countries. Not the kind who can afford to fly out, the kind you round up on a boat and dump on our shores. Since we need immigrants to sustain our economy with our shrinking population..shouldn't we fill the unskilled jobs first..and encourage our population into higher education..seeing as how them and their parents have been paying taxes all these years?
Immigration is vital, and i'd be a hypocrite to be against it seeing as how thats how my family got here. But we are only doing three things by bringing over so many skilled labourers 1.) Depleting their own countries of a workforce they worked damn hard to educate 2.) Screwing our own workforce who worked long and hard to be able to educate them and their children 3.) Sending Canada into long-term Ruin.
Don't the poor of the world deserve more of a chance to better their lives in Canada then those who could make thier own country better in the first place?