English First'ers: Do you know the French language?

Lithp

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I am an anglophone. I never did French Immersion in school. However, I went to University and earned a B.A. in French along with my B.Ed. I ended up teaching French in schools (ALthough I don't do that full time now- now I substitiute teach).

I see nothing wrong with making kids learn a second language. We make them learn History and Social Studies. So why not French? It would be nice if other languages were offered more frequently. But French is a good language.
 

Dexter Sinister

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No, I don't know the French language, but I wish I did. Both our children are fluently bilingual in English and French because we put them into French immersion from grade 1 all the way through secondary school. I wish I'd had that opportunity 50 years ago, but at my age I think the language-learning part of my brain is probably fossilized now. I can read cereal box French, and just barely grasp the gist of the play by play commentary on Canadiens' games ( which I watch in preference to Leafs games) on French language tv, that's about it. I can't read it or speak it or really understand anyone else speaking it.

A second language is always useful, if only because it seems to make it easier to learn a third, and a fourth... My wife and I felt fully justified in making that decision on behalf of our children. Children don't know what's good for them, that's why they have parents to make certain choices for them. And having the second language has been a boon to both of them, personally and professionally, though neither of them works for the federal government. We're grateful for that too. This country has two official languages, and I'm sure there'll come a time (unless Quebec separates, which I don't think will happen) when you won't be considered educated unless you know them both. The best-educated Europeans are multilingual, and we should be too. In fact, where I live I'd find English, French, German, Ukrainian, and Cree, useful. But alas, English, and French at about the level of a 3-year old, is all I've got.
 

westmanguy

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Ok as an English person having another language is ok, but English is the international language, its the language of business and politics.

Europeans and Asians know English. Its puts them ahead in our nation.

We could get by fine with just English.

But I believe we should learn a second language, but let me choose the language!

How useful is French is rural Manitoba (and no, I live nowhere near the Metis or St. Boniface)!

If I lived in Ottawa or New Brunswick I would have a motivation to learn the language.

I personally would have chosen Spanish if I could have chosen.

In the USA they let the students choose between French and Spanish.

But since French is our second language.. I am forced to take a useless class which will never do anything for me in my life.

Spanish may have had some benefits in my life!

Regarding spanish people getting in trouble for US satellite for Spanish channels. Canada is so bliddy communist when it comes to TV, yes I'll say it, we are communist on our Television.. we are so freakin crazy on it... CRTC is like the "protect Canwest and CTVglobemedia by letting them reap in money by reairing American programs and keeping out competitive American specialty channels and have weak Candian specialty channels!"

Honestly, I fall in love with TV when i am in a hotel in the USA... Canada is so warped with the way we do TV..
 
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El Barto

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I've been to Bali Indonisia. People there learn up to seven languages. There main income is tourism. The logic of commerce. Don't think they can read and write ever one tho but thats a pretty good effort. Been to Boston and was shocked of the bilingual postings. things changed alot after thirty years.
 

Rar! I'm a scary monster!

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I think one of the biggest problems in America when speaking about multi-linguism is that those in smaller countries seem to exposed more regularly to other languages. If I had reason to use French everyday, i might be better at it.

My Mexican Spanish is improving slowly because of some people with whom I work...yet it's the cusswords I'm more familiar with which seem to be more finely honed!:munky2:
 

TenPenny

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Ok as an English person having another language is ok, but English is the international language, its the language of business and politics.

Europeans and Asians know English. Its puts them ahead in our nation.

We could get by fine with just English.

But I believe we should learn a second language, but let me choose the language!

How useful is French is rural Manitoba (and no, I live nowhere near the Metis or St. Boniface)!

If I lived in Ottawa or New Brunswick I would have a motivation to learn the language.

I personally would have chosen Spanish if I could have chosen.

In the USA they let the students choose between French and English.

But since French is our second language.. I am forced to take a useful class which will never do anything for me in my life.

Spanish may have had some benefits in my life!

Regarding spanish people getting in trouble for US satellite for Spanish channels. Canada is so bliddy communist when it comes to TV, yes I'll say it, we are communist on our Television.. we are so freakin crazy on it... CRTC is like the "protect Canwest and CTVglobemedia by letting them reap in money by reairing American programs and keeping out competitive American specialty channels and have weak Candian specialty channels!"

Honestly, I fall in love with TV when i am in a hotel in the USA... Canada is so warped with the way we do TV..


First off, there is nothing stopping you from learning Spanish, just because you weren't forced to learn it in school.

Second, if you had taken, and taken in, history, you might be able to work out why we teach French in schools. It's an integral part of the development, culture, and history of our country. There is some value in learning significant things that are part of your own culture.
 

jjaycee98

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Learning French

It probably makes a difference in how badly you want to learn the language. (People with political asperations seem to be able to learn.) Exposure at a young age also makes a difference I beleive. When we were in Europe on holiday we found it amazing how many Languages some people could speak. Not a just a few people either. Must be the close proximity to other countries. I came down with a bad flu bug and had to find a Pharmacy and I was glad of the very few words I was able to come up with to be understood.

My daughter had a one year exchange to France and said it was much easier to pick up when everyone around you spoke French. She took French through Grade 12 but thought she learned more the first month she was in France. She also spent 6 years in Ecuador and said the Spanish came easier in actual conversation than it did in the lessons. :read2:
 

westmanguy

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I don't care about Canada's culture.

I will probably never live out East.

I will either move to British Columiba or the USA eventually. French is a useless course for me as I'll never live in Quebec, New Brunswick, Ottawa, France, or Hati. EVER.
 

eh1eh

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I don't care about Canada's culture.

I will probably never live out East.

I will either move to British Columiba or the USA eventually. French is a useless course for me as I'll never live in Quebec, New Brunswick, Ottawa, France, or Hati. EVER.

Yes I think you should move to the USofA ASAP as you don't seem to have any loyalty to Canada. :|
 

westmanguy

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I like Canada, but not Quebec forcing me to learn their language.

They are the minority, BC + Alberta has more people then Quebec. Quebec should be forced to learn English because THEY are the minority.

I should have to learn the language of the minority when I am in the majority.
The minority should have to learn the language of the majority.

a language doesn't make or break a culture.. some culture if it all relies on the language...
 

snfu73

disturber of the peace
I think learning another language is the best thing a person can do...whether it is french, english, swahili, or what have you.

I hated math. But I had to take it. And it was a good thing I did. I hated phys ed. But, I had to take it...and it's a good thing I did. I hated shop class...but I had to take one...so I did. Sooooo.....that's school. There is always the option of home schooling, I guess...or...something.

Anyway, what some see as "forcing", others, like me, see it as being trying to help create a well rounded student and well rounded human being in the end. Just because you took it in school, doesn't mean that you have to continue with it later in life. I took math...but I'm not a mathematician. But...it's a good thing that I took math...I can at least do my taxes.
 

snfu73

disturber of the peace
I like Canada, but not Quebec forcing me to learn their language.

They are the minority, BC + Alberta has more people then Quebec. Quebec should be forced to learn English because THEY are the minority.

I should have to learn the language of the minority when I am in the majority.
The minority should have to learn the language of the majority.

a language doesn't make or break a culture.. some culture if it all relies on the language...
Most Quebecers DO learn english. You will find more bilingual Quebecers than non Quebers. Plus, Alberta, Saskatchewan, MANITOBA, Northern Ontario and much of the maritimes have LARGE french populations...so it's not like it's just Quebec. Plus, it isn't just french...once you've learned french, the ability to learn spanish or italian comes ALOT easier...they are connected. So it is a gateway into other languages, other cultures and other countries.

Man...you are one intolerant SOB westman...what's the deal?
 

westmanguy

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Ok, force me to learn a second language, BUT let me choose a language that would be useful to me!

French is useless to me.
 

westmanguy

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I don't want to learn something thats useless to me! I don't need a second language!

The entire world is converting to English, so why make me waste my time on other languages... let the rest of the world learn my language or they can sufffer from being behind the times and not knowing English.
 

TenPenny

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I don't care about Canada's culture.

I will probably never live out East.

I will either move to British Columiba or the USA eventually. French is a useless course for me as I'll never live in Quebec, New Brunswick, Ottawa, France, or Hati. EVER.

In case you didn't know, even BC is part of Canada. Maybe you missed those classes. You have shown that you are ignorant of the country's history and culture, and not interested in its future. What a waste of resources.
 

snfu73

disturber of the peace
I don't want to learn something thats useless to me! I don't need a second language!

The entire world is converting to English, so why make me waste my time on other languages... let the rest of the world learn my language or they can sufffer from being behind the times and not knowing English.
Boy...what a tolerant guy you are...that's what I love about you...soooo tolerant....so bloody tolerant...you tolerant guy you.